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Craig leaves door open to remain in Senate
Idaho Statesman ^ | Sept 5, 2007 | Erika Bolstad and Gregory Hahn

Posted on 09/05/2007 7:42:05 AM PDT by Jeff Head

Craig chose his words carefully during his resignation speech Saturday in Boise, according to a voice mail message he mistakenly left on a stranger's phone.

In that message obtained by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call, Craig tells a man named "Billy" that his choice of language is deliberate because it leaves the door open for him to stay in office.

Craig made the call just minutes before his speech.

"We have reshaped my statement a little bit to say it is my intent to resign on Sept. 30," Craig said. "I think it is important for you to make as bold a statement as you are comfortable with this afternoon, and I would hope you could make it in front of the cameras. I think it would help drive the story that I'm willing to fight, that I've got quality people out there fighting in my defense, and that this thing could take a new turn or a new shape; it has that potential."

He said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., had encouraged him to fight.

The recording was offered for sale to the Idaho Statesman, which turned it down because the newspaper's ethics policy precludes it from paying for information from sources. A Roll Call editor said that publication wouldn't pay either, but it managed to obtain the recording without charge.

The voice is indeed Craig's, spokesman Dan Whiting said. Whiting would not say who "Billy" is. On Saturday, Craig announced that he had hired high-profile criminal defense lawyer Billy Martin to help him unravel the guilty plea he filed last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at idahostatesman.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: larrycraig; senateresignation; sexscandal; uhohstalldooropen; ussentae; widestance
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Craig, IMHO, needs to resign quietly and go away. He is going to create a spectacle that will not be good for himself, his family, the State of Idaho, or the nation.

He pled guilty...the guilty plea he signed states very clearly that that DA does not take guilty pleas from people who "think" they are innocent and have done nothing wrong. He signed it.

That's enough. Let the Governor appoint another conservative to fill out the term and not risk the seat.

1 posted on 09/05/2007 7:42:08 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

Arlen advocating the “Scottish Stance” defense?


2 posted on 09/05/2007 7:43:39 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Jeff Head

With more friends like Arlen Specter, the GOP might as well write off the next election right now.


3 posted on 09/05/2007 7:44:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Sounds like it. I live in Idaho and have corresponded on numerous occassions with Craig's office.

Most here feel he should step aside over what, at the best, are these embarassing and very ill thought out judgements and actions. He is creating a spectacle and all his talk about "the good of the state" rings hollow.

The concervative governor here will appoint a string conservative to fill out the term who would then easily win re-election in this state. I am not sure at all Craig can (or should) be re-elected after this.

4 posted on 09/05/2007 7:46:54 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
"He said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., had encouraged him to fight.

At this point he's trying to defend the indefensible. Give it up and resign before you hurt the party even worse than you have already gay boy.
5 posted on 09/05/2007 7:47:15 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: Jeff Head

Michelle Malkin was right. He is a crapweasel, with the emphasis now falling on WEASEL.


6 posted on 09/05/2007 7:49:30 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: stm
You know...if he wants to get a lawyer and try to extract himself legally from the mess he has made...fine. But do so outside of the elcected representative mantle. This episode has shown such ill judgement (at the best) that most here simply do not want him representing them.

Either he was guilty as he pled and signed a sworn statement to that effect, or he lied simply to "make it go away", which he also mow says.

If I take him at his latest word and he did lie, then I have to ask myself (as are many OIdahoans), "What else will he lie about to just, "make it go away"?

7 posted on 09/05/2007 7:50:38 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Interesting that is was Arlen Specter who came to Craig's defense...

Now why would you do a thing like that, Arlen...?

8 posted on 09/05/2007 7:50:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Jeff Head

This incident makes the entire episode look even more ridiculous, as if Craig is pretty hapless and not too aware of what he’s doing. But it happens. I use the generic response for my voice mail, and it’s surprising how many wrong number callers leaver me a message.


9 posted on 09/05/2007 7:50:44 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Jeff Head

Until It’s Time for You to Go
Elvis Presley
(words & music by Buffy Sainte-Marie)

You’re not a dream
You’re not an angel
You’re a woman
I’m not a king,
I’m a man,
Take my hand
We’ll make a space
In the lives that we planned
And here we’ll stay
Until it’s time for you to go
Yes, we’re diff’rent worlds apart
We’re not the same
We laughed and played
At the start like in a game
You could have stayed
Outside my heart
But in you came
And here you’ll stay
Until it’s time for you to go
Don’t ask why,
Don’t ask how
Don’t ask forever,
Love me now
This love of mine
Had no beginning
It has no end
I was an oak,
Now I’m a willow
Now I can bend
And tho’ I’ll never
In my life see you again
I still stay
Until it’s time for you to go


10 posted on 09/05/2007 7:52:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Jeff Head

It goes back to that timeless question, “How do you know when a politician is lying?”.....his lips are moving.


11 posted on 09/05/2007 7:52:53 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: Jeff Head

‘He said Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., had encouraged him to fight.’

Another example of Arlen Specter being and complete and total IDIOT.

As if we needed confirmation of that...wish the Whitehouse had realized he’s more trouble than he’s worth.


12 posted on 09/05/2007 7:54:25 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Jeff Head

When one things goes bad .....


13 posted on 09/05/2007 7:54:58 AM PDT by altura
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To: Jeff Head
I think it would help drive the story that I'm willing to fight...

I think Craig would be making a McGrievous error.

14 posted on 09/05/2007 7:56:06 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: mewzilla
Interesting that is was Arlen Specter who came to Craig's defense...

Yeah, makes one wonder if Arlen has a "wide stance".

15 posted on 09/05/2007 7:57:17 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I could say something...but I won’t :)


16 posted on 09/05/2007 7:58:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Jeff Head

So let me get this straight. The senator dials a wrong number and leaves a voice mail recording right before he gives his resignation speech. The low-life opportunist morons he calls by mistake, go public with the recording and offer it for sale... going public i don’t give a rats ass about, but offering it for SALE?


17 posted on 09/05/2007 7:59:13 AM PDT by California74
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To: Jeff Head

What astounds me, is after all those years in congress, Craig did not know that he was immune to arrest.

Has anybody in Congress read the dang Constitution?


18 posted on 09/05/2007 7:59:17 AM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: Jeff Head
So Arlen Sphincter was in on this?

No wonder he was flaking for Senator Pervert on Meet The Depressed this Sunday.

This may put Arlen in a tight spot.

19 posted on 09/05/2007 8:00:50 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks ( BUILD THE WALL, ENFORCE THE LAW!)
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To: Jeff Head

You mean a Republican is going to stand up and fight? I’ll believe this when I see it.


20 posted on 09/05/2007 8:01:47 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: mewzilla

Both need to go. Ditto Bond, Grassley, Lugar, etc.


21 posted on 09/05/2007 8:02:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Jeff Head

Voice-mail transcript
Here’s what Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, said in a voice-mail message he mistakenly left at an incorrect phone number Saturday morning:

Yes, Billy, this is Larry Craig calling. You can reach me on my cell. Arlen Specter is now willing to come out in my defense, arguing that it appears by all that he knows that I have been railroaded and all that. Having all of that, we have reshaped my statement a little bit to say it is my intent to resign on Sept. 30. I think it is important for you to make as bold a statement as you are comfortable with this afternoon, and I would hope you could make it in front of the cameras. I think it would help drive the story that I’m willing to fight, that I’ve got quality people out there fighting in my defense, and that this thing could take a new turn or a new shape; it has that potential. Anyway, give me a buzz or give Mike a buzz on that. We’re headed to my press conference now. Thank you. Bye.


22 posted on 09/05/2007 8:02:48 AM PDT by California74
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To: patton
What astounds me, is after all those years in congress, Craig did not know that he was immune to arrest.

Only immune (from detention) if traveling to attend a session of congress. He was headed home.

23 posted on 09/05/2007 8:03:02 AM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Jeff Head
When Craig gave his resigning announcement to the press he said:”I INTEND to resign at the end of September” I thought “how Clintonesque of him.” He left the door wide open. He actually said nothing at all. Typical politician.
24 posted on 09/05/2007 8:03:30 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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To: Jeff Head

You’re headline? There is no ‘e’ in leaving. I thought we weren’t supposed to make up headlines......we were supposed to use the exact one in your link.


25 posted on 09/05/2007 8:03:43 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: 4yearlurker

uh yeah. that’s what this is - POLITICS. You must listen carefully. It’s part of the game. ;)


26 posted on 09/05/2007 8:04:26 AM PDT by California74
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To: Fawn

FR allows the poster to make an editorial comment, following the headline, if he/she so wishes.


27 posted on 09/05/2007 8:06:06 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Jeff Head

Kind of bizarre and disturbing how he was plotting to weasel out of a statement before he made it. He should be called Larry “The Weasel” Craig.


28 posted on 09/05/2007 8:07:07 AM PDT by BinaryBoy
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To: Fawn
He pled guilty. He should sit down and go home. He will only make a worse spectacle of his (at best) horrible judgement, and end up hurintg his state and the nation.

If he privately, legally, wants to challenge his guilty plea and get off on what amounts to a loop hole...then that is his business. But he is going to drag the whole country through it with him.

29 posted on 09/05/2007 8:07:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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I didn't think this situation could get any worse but now we have Craig weasling out, on tape, about how he may not resign afterwards. And explaining how carefully he worded his announcement to boot. Can the man show himself to be any more dihonest and disreputable?

Senator Craig, Go away. You're an embarrassment and your continued presence in DC is a scandal. We are not democrats. We do not not tolerate deviancy and call it normal. We do not expect perversion and deceit from our elected officials and when we find it we expel it. Go away.

30 posted on 09/05/2007 8:07:43 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Jeff Head
Regarding the closet, this "leaves the door open."

Great, he's still in it, but now everyone can see him in there.

31 posted on 09/05/2007 8:09:01 AM PDT by Sax
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To: pgkdan

Senator Craig is not a deviant nor is he gay. The dems set him up and he fell for the trap...

and then stumbled and tangled himself up... and we’re watching him try to stay standing but it’s inevitable that pretty soon he’s going to fall.

Otherwise, I totally agree with you.


32 posted on 09/05/2007 8:10:53 AM PDT by California74
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To: Fawn

Did you mean “Your headline?” instead of “You’re headline?”
;)


33 posted on 09/05/2007 8:12:49 AM PDT by California74
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To: California74

Thanks for the whole transcript.


34 posted on 09/05/2007 8:13:49 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Sax

LOL.

Stop it! He’s not gay!

If he were gay, or a propositioner, don’t you think every gay guy he fooled around with would be coming up from under the woodwork by now?


35 posted on 09/05/2007 8:14:03 AM PDT by California74
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To: 4yearlurker

Sadly, it is so.


36 posted on 09/05/2007 8:14:19 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: California74
Senator Craig is not a deviant nor is he gay. The dems set him up and he fell for the trap...

The fact that the Senator like to cruise men's rooms looking for anonymous sex has been an open secret for years. He was accused of soliciting sex by a gay man in DC several years ago. The only thing is that guy wasn't a cop. Larry Craig is a deviant and he is gay.

37 posted on 09/05/2007 8:14:32 AM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Ditto
Only immune (from detention) if traveling to attend a session of congress.

Not true, it's to and from a session.

38 posted on 09/05/2007 8:14:43 AM PDT by Current Occupant (IF YOU ABANDON CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES, ARE YOU STILL A CONSERVATIVE?!)
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To: BinaryBoy

Yes it is...and it is not lost on the people here. IMHO, he is digging his hole deeper and should just step aside and allow the Governor to appoint someone to fill out the term. In my estimation, it is shameful what is hapopening.


39 posted on 09/05/2007 8:15:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: California74

Yes.....you’re right. ;0 I hate to see headlines spelled incorrectly....it sends a bad image. I’m just a poster so it’s ok...lol


40 posted on 09/05/2007 8:16:17 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: California74
If he were gay, or a propositioner, don’t you think every gay guy he fooled around with would be coming up from under the woodwork by now?

FWIW, it's referred to as anonymous sex for a reason.

41 posted on 09/05/2007 8:16:31 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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"Craig accidently left voice mail about "leaveing the door open"..."

I'm guessing he was referring to the back door....

42 posted on 09/05/2007 8:16:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: California74
"...The dems set him up and he fell for the trap..."

The dems forced him to seek out an out-of-the-way restroom known to be a homo hook-up spot?

Hardly.
43 posted on 09/05/2007 8:17:42 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (An Army Dad)
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To: Jeff Head

Homo alert ping

leave already you’ve been disgraced.


44 posted on 09/05/2007 8:19:01 AM PDT by neverendinghunt
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To: pgkdan
I cannot speak to the actuality of his sexuality. I had always discounted the rumors...now they do have more credibility.

But all of that aside, his judgement has been wholly tarnished, and this just adds more to that. He had already lost my support over the immigration issue, now he needs to step down and allow our conservative governor to appoint another conservative in his stead.

45 posted on 09/05/2007 8:19:12 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Pat Toomey should be in that Pennsylvania U.S. Senate seat instead of Arlen Specter!


46 posted on 09/05/2007 8:20:26 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: Jeff Head

Apparently you can’t believe Craig until he confirms his resignation via hand signals.


47 posted on 09/05/2007 8:22:04 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: jdm

“editorial comment”
After the proper headline, in parantheses or brackets. Take it from me, who got slapped around fror that particular transgression. :)


48 posted on 09/05/2007 8:23:23 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Mythougts exactly....I’ll go further, Spector, with his
over-inflated ego, is an easy TARGET for the Dems to get
their message out.....coonsistently to the detriment of
his own party. The nitwit thinks he is helping the
party? are you nuts? The RNC even helped him win the
last election..close..and that still hurts us. It sure
as hell isn’t going to get better with Spectar in the
catbird seat......JK


49 posted on 09/05/2007 8:24:12 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: frankenMonkey
Larry Craig brought this on himself. He wasn't set up. There was no trap for him. The Mpls airport toilet was a known connection point for queers. Atlanta's ap has one identified by this "community".
He needs to go and now.
50 posted on 09/05/2007 8:24:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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