Posted on 09/05/2007 11:26:43 AM PDT by Monitor
Yes 81%, No 19%
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-—82 to 18 now—
84-16...vote by metro station? My station is Arlington Cemetery.
84 TO 16 :)
85-15......
| Do you think D.C.'s tough ban on handgun ownership is unconstitutional? 85% Yes 15% No All Results [Votes: 901]
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86 yes 14 no
Predictably the votes drop below 70 percent only for liberal redoubts such as Clarendon and Dupont Circle, and are in the 90’s for urban neighborhoods such as RFK.
Check out Cleveland Park. Did I see 100 percent????
86-14 now.
Here is my comment (although they haven’t posted it yet):
The most basic right of any living being is the right to protect its own life. Humans don’t have big teeth or claws, nor can we run terribly swiftly away from trouble (if there’s even the opportunity). No, all that this large-brained species can do is use that brain to invent and fashion tools - to keep warm, to produce food and to protect itself.
It is clear, based on common sense, the law and history, that those of us who are not predatory (i.e. victims) will need protection against those who are - and especially when considering that the victims will likely be surprised by a stronger, possibly faster and possibly more numerous aggressor or aggressors. Such protection, given these disadvantages, must be by the most efficient means possible. For the last couple of centuries, this has meant a firearm - and it is not coincidental that the widespread availability of firearms coincided nearly identically with the rise of democracy. Only firearms in the hands of potential victims can play the role of equalizer, where a 75-year-old 110-pound woman can face down or defeat a 20-year-old who weighs 250 pounds.
The police cannot be everywhere at once (nor would anyone interested in keeping our liberties WANT them to be everywhere), which necessarily means that individuals are responsible for their own security. This has, by the way, been backed up by the courts in every jurisdiction and at every level - the police owe NO ONE a duty of protection (save one in protective custody). You can’t count on 911 to save you - you need to do it yourself, and to protect those you love.
Enough of crime - what of liberty? Is our liberty best served by having all of the guns in the hands of the police and the military? It seems to me that this is one of the definitions of a police state, of a military dictatorship. The Founding Fathers as a group were incredibly well versed in their knowledge of law and history, and had an equally incredible knowledge of human nature and the nature of power. They KNEW that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They KNEW that any government will, over time and despite the genuine idealism of its founders, grow in size and power at the expense of the governed. They had just fought a war against the most powerful empire on Earth, a war which started with the British attempt at Lexington and Concord to seize the colonists’ weapons, a war that would have been impossible to win but for the existence of large numbers of (then) modern firearms in the hands of the populace. They designed the Constitution to limit government power, split the power between the branches and further limited the power by way of the Bill of Rights. BUT THEY KNEW that despite the design and the intentions, eventually our government would stop treating the people as the master and start treating it as the servant. That would be the time for a future generation to decide whether to continue the slide into subservience, or to do as they themselves had just done - change the government by force, when it became completely unresponsive to the voice of the people. THAT is the true reason for the Second Amendment, not protection against criminals or to permit hunting for food or sport. These were very serious men who literally risked their lives in an attempt to bring liberty to this nation - and it is beyond question that their intention was to make certain that the balance of power between the government and the people was decidedly in favor of the people. Don’t believe me? Check out “Federalist Papers” #46 - written by James Madison, the writer of the Constitution. If anyone would know the truth, he would.
Washington, D.C.’s government is led by a bunch of ignorant tyrant-wannabees. They view the average law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying person as an idiot, incapable of defending themselves, and these people cannot bring themselves to allow the citizens of the nation’s capitol to enjoy the liberties that most of the rest of the country enjoys. How incredibly sad. I sincerely hope that the Supreme Court takes the “Heller” case and slaps D.C.’s government in the face, letting the mayor and his minions know that the people rule, not the government.
Wow! 92% yes among us King Street Metro folks. 78 votes, which is one of the higher totals.
PING!!
One more yes vote from the “Pentagon” (I have been there only once in my life).
Since when is Clarendon a liberal redoubt? Is it the Whole Foods? No, it’s probably because of all the women. (A good reason to move there). And isn’t it ironic that that’s Virginia? I’m beginning to warm up to the idea of moving into DC on the idea that I will gladly line up for the photo op of being one of the first residents to buy a gun.
Ummmm..... at least since I moved to Fairfax County 10 years ago. And before that the stretch from Ballston down to Rosslyn was a run-down light industrial wasteland.
I can't attest to what you saw ... but I definitely saw 100% Yes there. I don't believe it. I do, however, like the "vote by metro stop" method.
89 - 11 now
You guys should check out the Green Line results. That goes through the areas with the highest crime rates, and it’s overwhelmingly “yes”.
It'll be worth a followup tomorrow morning, after folks have gotten home from work and maybe get around to doing the poll. The paper was given out this morning, maybe lots of Metro riders saw it and noted it but didn't want to answer a gun poll at the office.
It’s all pretty darn upscale now and anything but a wasteland. Lots of young folks. It doesn’t strike me as liberal per se, because there’s alot of yuppies. Like I said, I think it has to do with the high concentration of women, which typically are less pro-gun.
Look, all you have to do is grab the voting results from 2006 for whatever precinct Clarendon is. Don't listen to me, get the facts which are most certainly available on the internet.
If you insist I will get them for you later this evening, have other things to do now.
I also have to wonder how many votes are from folks far outside the Washington metro area, and simply picked a random metro stop. I live out in the boonies of Virginia ... picked Vienna as simply the closest stop to me. Not that it’s particularly close.
I don’t take internet polls as anything approaching accurate. If it was FReeped it was FReeped, and that’s that.
If people chose randomly for “yes”, they sure did a great job of missing traditionally leftie spots like Dupont Circle and jacking everything else into the 80’ and 90’s.
To borrow a phrase, it looks like this poll is inaccurate but accurate.
Looks like you’re posted now.
Wonder how the vote is going in the Fort Marcy Park area??
< shrug >
Whatever ...
Ain't that bizarre?
I'd like to check that neighborhood on Mass. Ave. NW just past American Univ. (the name escapes me at the moment). My brother was telling me about some unfortunate guy whose brand new Hummer was vandalized TWICE by ecoNazis there (they left him notes), in one of DC's wealthiest and most prestigious enclaves (Quebec St., Hillwood Lane, Rockwood Pkwy). It's not McMansion territory, it's the real thing.
I poked around for the Arlington County 2006 election numbers, which are broken down by precinct including Clarendon.
In 2006 Allen got 332 votes vs. Webb's 801, and even jerkoff Moran beat his Republican opponent 861 to 268. That looks like Rat votes of 70/30 for Webb and about 75/25 for Moran. That's just about par for all of Arlington County.
http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/VoterRegistration/ElectionReturns/Nov2006/GenOfficial06Federal.htm
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