Posted on 09/05/2007 3:59:47 PM PDT by processing please hold
Is This True??
no.
All this GOA hyperbole is going to end up hurting our gun rights more than it helps.
Listening to the radio, Jerry Doyle, on the drive home from work today.
A great audio clip, from the man himself....spoken with such passion...
....From my cold, dead hands....
Made my day.
From all I read-yes. That’s what makes it such an abomination.
I’m so surprised these strident pro military members would do such a thing.
This is a slap in the face of every veteran. Veterans should rise up and yell loud enough for our Congress in DC to hear, “HELL NO YOU DON’T!”
I’ll join them.
Which group was more accurately descriptive of the 1996 Lautenberg Abomination before or after its passage? GOA or NRA?
FReepmail to be added to the Congress Watch Ping List.
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"-Patrick Henry
We're on the same side here, but I honestly don't think they are helping.
Section 2 findings-(B).
If a soldiers has stress disorder, I believe he's out of luck. Maybe I interpreted it wrong.
Push, meet Shove.
No ... it doesn’t. It specifically doesn’t.
Unreal..
(C) the adjudication, determination, or commitment, respectively, is based solely on a medical finding of disability, without a finding that the person is a danger to himself or to others or that the person lacks the mental capacity to manage his own affairs.
It’s a bad deal all around.
Absolutely not. H.R. 2640 doesn’t ban anyone from owning guns—it only makes records available on those who are already “prohibited persons.”"
"Some critics of H.R. 2640 claim that BATFE’s regulation would impose a gun ban based on any psychiatrist’s diagnosis that a person “[i]s a danger to himself or to others … or … [l]acks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs.” But that’s not true, because basic legal definitions mean that an “adjudication” can only come from a court or similar body. As cosponsor Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.) said in the Congressional Record, adjudication is a formal process, “not just a doctor’s notes on a patient’s charts.”"
Some have asked if H.R. 2640 would prohibit gun ownership by veterans—for instance, those who return from war with conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder. The answer, fortunately, is “No.” For all the same reasons a psychiatrist’s diagnosis can’t ban gun ownership, an evaluation by Veterans’ Administration (VA) or other doctors isn’t an “adjudication” or “commitment” under federal law. In fact, H.R. 2640 aims to fix problems for veterans and their families. During the Clinton administration, the VA started sending information to NICS on veterans (and veterans’ family members) who had representatives appointed to handle their benefit checks. The VA treated these records as “adjudications,” but supporters of H.R. 2640 disagree. Rep. Daniel Lungren (R-Calif.) denounced the VA’s “overreach” and pointed out that H.R. 2640 would allow wrongly listed veterans to seek restoration of their rights.
[Note: If you are a veteran and have been denied a gun purchase due to the VA’s actions, please call NRA-ILA’s Legislative Counsel at (703) 267-1160.]
The NRA has done more to hurt gun rights than to uphold them. Heck, Mayor Fenty has done more in the last year for gun owners than the NRA has done in the last thirty years!
I’ve had more than enough of seeing the NRA in action in places like Richmond, Virginia where they singlehandedly got good pro-gun legislation shot down because they hadn’t been the ones to get it introduced.
After their multiple attempts at derailing the Parker/Heller case, I finally got fed up with it. I won’t give the NRA the time of day ever again.
Mike
now add to all those alleged cases of “PTSD” the MASSIVE number of kids who have been “diagnosed” by the NEA branch of the Brady Bunch with ADHD over the last 20 years or so......oh yeh....then there’s all those “bipolars”, too.....it’s neverending, the deviousness and planning these people put into their schemes
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