Posted on 09/06/2007 1:49:49 PM PDT by Racehorse
Code-talker alert...:)
Oh my, just saw this is referring to World War I, oh my...
Got choctaw points?
” During World War I, 16 Choctaw Soldiers “
This is really news to me and I suspect most people. This is a great honor and more Americans should be aware of this.
Interesting. All I’ve heard of were the Navajos.
Wow.....I have never heard of the Choctaw code talkers.
And in WWI no less.
Very interesting Dita & thanks for the ping!
This is mostly unknown and unheard of in our American history. I thought Indian code was a WW2 tactic—not WW1.
Recently the last WW2 code talker from this area (Iowa) died. I was not aware that tribes other than Navajo had been used.
And I thought I knew American history.
Well done!
My old hometown newspaper, The Ponca City News (of Ponca City, OK)
did carry an article on some of the Native American “code-talkers”
that were outside the Navaho group.
This was a couple of years ago...and I can’t remember the exact tribal
association of the code-talkers profiled.
Wasn’t a movie made about this? And if so, does anyone remember the name of it? I would like to see it, if one exists.
As World War I drew to a close, the United States had a continuing problem of phone calls being intercepted by German forces. One could be fairly certain that a German spy would hear any telephone call made. Unfortunately, voice-scrambling technology wouldn’t be invented for decades. The United States came up with several inventive solutions to the problem, but unfortunately none of them worked for any length of time.
First, the Army tried trench codes. They worked for a time, but after they had been in use for a while, the Germans readily cracked them. Another solution, sending messengers between camps, failed because Germans captured about one in four.
So, what was the Army to do? One smart commander, Captain Lewis, realized that the languages used by American Indians are extremely complex and difficult to learn. He capitalized on the complexity as a code, employing eight Choctaw Indians during the Mousse-Argonne campaign, which turned out as the final German push of the war.
The Indians:
* Solomon Lewis
* Mitchell Bobb
* Ben Carterby
* Robert Taylor
* Jeff Nelson
* Pete Maytubby
* James Edwards
* Calvin Wilson
Simply put, the Indians were stationed at command posts, and spoke all important telephone calls in their native language, translating from and into English for their commanders. German intelligence wasn’t able to figure out what the new American code was or to even think about breaking it.
Within 24 hours of the United States starting to use Choctow Indians language as a form of encryption, the tides of war changed in favor of the United States. Within 72 hours, the Germans were in retreat.
The Choctow weren’t used again in an unclassified military effort (other data may still be classified). However, the Navajo tribe was utilized in World War II, where they had equal effectiveness at stumping German cryptographers.
Since Choctaws didn’t receive U.S. citizenship until 1924 they could not be drafted. Everyone of them was a volunteer.
I also have some choctaw blood in me, but not sure how much.
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re: movie
Yes, there was a movie a few years ago with Nicholas Cage called “Windtalkers” (2002) about the WWII version of using Navajo “code talkers” in the Pacific:
Here’s the official US Navy page on the code talkers:
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq61-2.htm
Here’s some info on the movie:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1805535156/details
On December 8, 1941, the United States declared war on Japan. For the next several years, U.S. forces were fully engaged in battle throughout the Pacific, taking over islands one by one in a slow progression towards mainland Japan. During this brutal campaign, the Japanese were continually able to break coded military transmissions, dramatically slowing U.S. progress. In 1942, several hundred Navajo Americans were recruited as Marines and trained to use their language as code. Marine Joe Enders is assigned to protect Ben Yahzee - a Navajo code talker, the Marines’ new secret weapon. Enders’ orders are to protect his code talker, but if Yahzee should fall into enemy hands, he’s to “protect the code at all costs.” Against the backdrop of the horrific Battle of Saipan, when capture is imminent, Enders is forced to make a decision: if he can’t protect his fellow Marine, can he bring himself to kill him to protect the code?
Production Status: Released
Genres: Action/Adventure, Drama and War
Running Time: 2 hrs. 14 min.
Release Date: June 14, 2002 Nationwide
MPAA Rating: R for pervasive graphic war violence, and for language.
Distributors:
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM)
Production Co.:
Saturn Films, Lion Rock Productions
Studios:
Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM), United Artists Films
Financiers:
Lender: Boy Wonder Visual Effects, Mainichi Broadcasting
U.S. Box Office: $40,911,830
Filming Locations:
Hawaii, USA
Los Angeles, California, USA
Produced in: United States
Thanks so much for posting about the movie! I never would have found that. I definitely want to see it.
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