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Congress holds new hearing on immigration bill
InfoWorld ^ | September 06, 2007 | Ephraim Schwartz

Posted on 09/06/2007 6:03:53 PM PDT by Delacon

The STRIVE Act may still be in play and, with it, higher H-1B caps

It appears that the STRIVE (Security Through Regularized Immigration and a Vibrant Economy) Act of 2007 isn't quite dead after all.

On Thursday, the Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, Refugees Border Security, and International Law convened and on its first day took written statements from witnesses on the bill.

The comprehensive immigration bill that caused such a furor earlier this year, mainly over the issue of whether it was offering amnesty to illegal immigrants, also addressed the H-1B visa cap.

The cap, now set at 65,000, with an additional 20,000 reserved for foreign workers who have a graduate degree from a U.S. institution, would be raised to 115,000 for 2008 with a stipulation that it would go up an additional 20 percent each year that the quota was met, with a final cap of 180,000 visas issued.

At the hearing, STRIVE Act cosponsor Rep. Jeff Flake of Arizona did not specifically bring up the issue of H-1B, but he did say that the STRIVE Act "addresses the failures and problems with past worker programs."

Countering Flake's premise, Julie Kirchner, the government relations director for the Federation for American Immigration Reform said, "These provisions are a serious threat to high-tech workers in the U.S., including legal immigrants who have patiently waited their turn to take part in the American dream."

In total, there were a dozen witnesses submitting written statements, but the others did not address the issue of the H-1B visa cap.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; comprehensive; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; striveact
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Here they come again. Heads up everybody.
1 posted on 09/06/2007 6:03:56 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon
Here's a novel idea.....why not let We The People vote on this once & for all?

Sadly, that's a rhetorical question.

2 posted on 09/06/2007 6:06:46 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Delacon

Whenever you win something, you have to defend your win.

Har har. The fat lady has yet to sing.


3 posted on 09/06/2007 6:09:45 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Delacon

I am not opposed to raising the number of educated/skilled immigrants we allow to enter the country legally. These people will end up paying more in taxes than they demand in services. They represent a net gain for our economy. We can argue about the number, I guess.

I am overwhelmingly opposed to allowing anyone to enter our country illegally.


4 posted on 09/06/2007 6:14:04 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Delacon

Frankly, I’m all for more H1B’s for immigrants educated here. They are usually very Americanized, and all we are doing by forcing them to go home is exporting US trained expertise and knowledge — one of any nation’s most valuable resources. At the same time, we are facing a very real shortage of engineers and the like. It makes no sense.

Drug runners, welfare seekers, etc.: Kick ‘em out. US educated immigrants who want to work here, helping our economy: Let ‘em in. Heck, if it was up to me, if you came here for an education, you would HAVE to stay 5 or 10 years to help OUR economy and tech base!

This isn’t rocket science. Speaking of which, without enough engineers, we will LOSE our edge in rocket science and other tech., with MAJOR negative consequences for our economy and military.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 6:18:41 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Delacon

Yes it’s back. Michael Medved was defending the illegals today. He referred to fringe elements in the Minutemen thus trashing the organization without being “all inclusive”. CLICK

BTW Medved carries the water for the full GOP line regardless of validity. He did it once for only one day as the GOP dropped the position.


6 posted on 09/06/2007 6:18:58 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: Delacon

Second verse..
same as the first.

Your Chamber of Commerce gunning for the livelihood of ordinary Americans.


7 posted on 09/06/2007 6:19:14 PM PDT by petertare (--)
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To: indylindy

Read my tag.


8 posted on 09/06/2007 6:19:18 PM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: goldfinch

Agreed on both counts (see my post just after yours).


9 posted on 09/06/2007 6:19:25 PM PDT by piytar
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To: eeevil conservative; Gvl_M3; txroadkill; i_dont_chat; Southside_Chicago_Republican; JoanneSD; ...
It's BAAAA-AACK!!

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If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans, but Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free, Americans who have been lulled away into a false security. -- Ezra Taft Benson

10 posted on 09/06/2007 6:22:05 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: AuntB; Travis McGee; bcsco

ping


11 posted on 09/06/2007 6:25:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Delacon

Took the liberty of making this front page news. Thanks for posting this, and I hope others bump it early and often.


12 posted on 09/06/2007 6:31:34 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: goldfinch

“I am not opposed to raising the number of educated/skilled immigrants we allow to enter the country legally.”

Neither do I. The article I posted doesn’t cover other aspects of the Strive Act that has been around since March 07. I googled and found only two articles covering the fall congress’s reopening of hearings over the Strive Act. Me thinks the MSM has decided to try to keep “comprehensive immigration reform” under the radar this time around. If congress wanted to dump amnesty they could have drawn up a new bill. Nope, they are going forward with the house bill(the other bill simular to the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007 the Senate caught so much hell for).

“I am overwhelmingly opposed to allowing anyone to enter our country illegally.”

Check out Article 6 of the Strive Act as it now stands. Its amnesty.

TITLE VI: EARNED LEGALIZATION FOR QUALIFIED, HARDWORKING INDIVIDUALS

Visa Program for Qualified Undocumented Workers: Creates a new visa program (conditional nonimmigrant status) for undocumented immigrants and their spouses and children in the U.S., which is valid for six years. Provides conditional nonimmigrant visa applicants with work and travel authorization and protection from removal. Provides certain immigrants in removal proceedings, facing removal, or ordered to depart voluntarily with an opportunity to apply for conditional nonimmigrant status. Bars related to undocumented status will be waived (security and criminal bars cannot be waived);

Requirements for Conditional Nonimmigrant Status:

Establish continuous presence in the U.S. on or before June 1, 2006;

Attest to employment in the U.S. before June 1, 2006 and employment since that date (and submit related documentation);

Complete criminal and security background checks;

Pay a $500 fine plus necessary application fees (fine exemption for children).
Other Criteria for Conditional Nonimmigrant Status:

The individual must not be ineligible to receive a visa pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act;

The individual has not been convicted of a felony or three or more misdemeanors;

The individual has not participated in the persecution of another person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion;

The individual has not been convicted by final judgment of a particularly serious crime and there are no reasonable grounds for believing that the alien has committed a particularly serious crime abroad before arriving in the U.S.; and

There is a penalty of up to five years’ imprisonment for anyone who willfully falsifies information in an application for conditional nonimmigrant status.

Earned Citizenship: Provides qualified conditional nonimmigrants and their spouses and children with an opportunity to apply for lawful permanent resident status (green card) and eventual citizenship. Applicants go to the back of the line for permanent visas; the current immigrant backlogs must be cleared before qualified conditional nonimmigrant visa applicants (and their families) can adjust to permanent resident status. Immigrants who adjust from a conditional nonimmigrant visa (including dependents) to lawful permanent resident status shall not be counted against the worldwide numerical visa caps.

Requirements for Earned Citizenship:

Meet employment requirements during the six-year period immediately preceding the application for adjustment;

Pay a $1,500 fine plus application fees;

Complete criminal and security background checks;

Establish registration under the selective service (if applicable);

Meet English and civic requirements;

Undergo a medical examination;

Pay all taxes;

Show admissibility to the U.S.; and

Meet a “Legal Reentry” requirement during the six-year period in conditional nonimmigrant status but no later than 90 days before filing an application for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status. Paperwork processing is performed in the U.S. An exit and re-entry through any port-of-entry is required. Limited exceptions apply.


13 posted on 09/06/2007 6:31:37 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

Round 3


14 posted on 09/06/2007 6:32:17 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: piytar

I agree with what you say. I wish there was an article out there right now that covers the other areas of the Strive Act that are now going to be pushed by congress. The article skips over the amnesty parts of the bill. Read my post 13.


15 posted on 09/06/2007 6:36:46 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon; jedward; nicmarlo

Looky...


16 posted on 09/06/2007 6:38:00 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Delacon

Go to Flake’s website.


17 posted on 09/06/2007 6:43:16 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; nicmarlo

Rail-car # 2 in the ‘Train’. #1 was the Truckers Plan.


18 posted on 09/06/2007 6:45:19 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon
"Earned Citizenship: Provides qualified conditional nonimmigrants and their spouses and children with an opportunity to apply for lawful permanent resident status (green card) and eventual citizenship."

Yea they "learned" last time... They will keep coming out with this until they get their cheap slave labor that you and I will pay for.

19 posted on 09/06/2007 6:47:51 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Is there anyway you can speed up the election as well :)


20 posted on 09/06/2007 6:48:39 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon

Time to call up your House representative and say “Hell no!”


21 posted on 09/06/2007 6:49:29 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: jedward

The Teamsters were protesting at the Laredo border crossing
today(FOX),,,looks like they ain’t gunna just roll over...


22 posted on 09/06/2007 6:52:07 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

It’s pretty bad when the teamsters as well as barak obamma issue statements against something anti-conservative. That should be clue enough that something is terribly amiss.


23 posted on 09/06/2007 6:55:17 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I have noticed no action though. Someone’s listening...but lest we forget the train is indeed still rolling.


24 posted on 09/06/2007 6:56:46 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Politicalmom
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans, but Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free, Americans who have been lulled away into a false security. -- Ezra Taft Benson

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. -- Marcus Tullius Cicero

25 posted on 09/06/2007 6:58:21 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Ben Ficklin

Flake gets a “F” on Amnesties, Chain Migration, and Unnecessary Visas by the Americans for Better Imigration.
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=AZ&VIPID=928


26 posted on 09/06/2007 6:58:41 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Puppage

Silly citizen. Dontcha know our mighty rulers knows what’s best for us.


27 posted on 09/06/2007 6:59:30 PM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: SpaceBar

BTTT x10


28 posted on 09/06/2007 6:59:59 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon

There is a 4 page overview and 12 page summary of the bill at Flake’s website.


29 posted on 09/06/2007 7:01:11 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: jedward
It’s pretty bad when the teamsters as well as barak obamma issue statements against something anti-conservative. That should be clue enough that something is terribly amiss.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ya got that rite,,,FOX guy kept referring to this as an
“Experiment” which I thought was strange...
30 posted on 09/06/2007 7:02:15 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jedward

I have noticed no action though. Someone’s listening...but lest we forget the train is indeed still rolling.
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True Dat,,,The shamnesty vote opened some ears...


31 posted on 09/06/2007 7:05:20 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

And our treaties are experiments too (snort)


32 posted on 09/06/2007 7:07:49 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: processing please hold

ping


33 posted on 09/06/2007 7:08:59 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
FOX guy kept referring to this as an “Experiment” which I thought was strange...

I noticed the same thing on various news casts and concluded that "experiment" is the agreed apon government Newspeak terminology to refer to the mexican trucking issue. It's just an experiment. Like the federal income tax and social security cards. Just an experiment.
34 posted on 09/06/2007 7:09:30 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Delacon

They are debating about how many and the size of the canteens of water to place on top of the new border fence.


35 posted on 09/06/2007 7:14:41 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Delacon
From Flakes website...Congressman Flake, along with Congressman Luis Gutierrez of Illinois, has introduced the STRIVE Act, which would increase border security, strengthen interior enforcement, create a temporary worker program, and deny amnesty to illegal immigrants.

Article 6 of the Strive Act ... TITLE VI: EARNED LEGALIZATION FOR QUALIFIED, HARDWORKING INDIVIDUALS

Seemingly Flake still believes that he can fool people by calling amnesty something else. Looks like 'earned legalization' is his disguise this time. Time to whip out my old phone list and start calling.
36 posted on 09/06/2007 7:16:54 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

These SOB’s never stop trying!


37 posted on 09/06/2007 7:16:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Delacon
I'm kind of wondering: was "comprehensive amnesty" intended to fail?

Is it going to be easier to do the same thing in little-bitty pieces?

Are we already on the road without really knowing it?

38 posted on 09/06/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by norton
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To: Delacon
We should STRIVE to keep a close eye on our legislators and stop them from even thinking of passing an amnesty bill. Or, anything that looks like an amnesty bill!

They're trying again to pull a fast one. They cannot be trusted.

39 posted on 09/06/2007 7:17:18 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

I can’t get the summary to open. Damn Adobe Reader. But comments on immigration throughout his website reaffirm my comments that this isn’t just about H-1B visas. This guy wants to push amnesty through. He wants to push through the whole Stive Act. Thanks.


40 posted on 09/06/2007 7:17:59 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: goldfinch

“Seemingly Flake still believes that he can fool people by calling amnesty something else”

Flake has the correct name.


41 posted on 09/06/2007 7:18:03 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Delacon

Bookmark


42 posted on 09/06/2007 7:21:21 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: SpaceBar

I noticed the same thing on various news casts and concluded that “experiment” is the agreed apon government Newspeak terminology to refer to the mexican trucking issue. It’s just an experiment. Like the federal income tax and social security cards. Just an experiment.
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I didn’t catch the word at first(bad hearing),,,
Some “Experiments” will blow up in one’s face...


43 posted on 09/06/2007 7:25:53 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: jedward
And our treaties are experiments too (snort)
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True Dat,,Chamberlain wavin’ a piece of paper comes to mind.
44 posted on 09/06/2007 7:31:13 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: neverdem

Ping


45 posted on 09/06/2007 7:38:42 PM PDT by Delacon
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To: Delacon

Just send the illegals back to their countries or origin and build the fence.


46 posted on 09/06/2007 7:39:35 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

lolololol !!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 09/06/2007 7:43:00 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon

Jorge fully intends top have this attached to his mortgage bailout scheme. Then the demorats will decorate the bill with enough vote buying ear marks to put them over the top in 08.


48 posted on 09/06/2007 7:43:02 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hey SJB!


49 posted on 09/06/2007 7:45:12 PM PDT by jedward (I'm not sure you meant, what I understand...or maybe you did.)
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To: Delacon

Putting lipstick on the pig!


50 posted on 09/06/2007 7:46:09 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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