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Zogby poll: 42% of Democrats think Bush either caused 9/11 or let it happen
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Posted on 09/06/2007 9:54:52 PM PDT by dervish

I guess we should be grateful it’s not a clear majority, eh? You can thank the turds at 9/11 Truth for commissioning the poll; SLC spotted it earlier and has since been digesting the numbers. Spend some time with the data, paying special attention to question 402 starting on page 5 of the PDF. The results run on for several pages as Zogby breaks it down by age, region, religious belief, even gun ownership. The data for party affiliation comes on page 8. Here’s the most interesting bit, though, which I’ve taken the liberty of screencapping and highlighting. Click for large size:

The left has been downright giddy about its stranglehold on the youth vote, but note well the caliber of voter they’re attracting there. Note the result for Hispanics, too. I suspect there’s a fair amount of disgruntlement over unrelated issues, i.e. immigration, bleeding over into perceptions of 9/11 here, maybe not unlike many on the right extrapolating from the Clintons’ general loathsomeness that they must have had Vince Foster whacked. As for the data on Asians, though, I’m at a loss as to how to explain it. Is that immigration backlash too? Are they including south Asians, like Pakistanis, in the group? Hmm.

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1 posted on 09/06/2007 9:54:58 PM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish

only 42% ?


2 posted on 09/06/2007 9:59:20 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: dervish

If they polled me they would find out that I think the Clintons actually helped plan it. Now what do you think of that? After all, they appointed their people who hired people to work for the CIA, Hillary was the Senator of New York City and Barbara Olsen, whose plan crashed into the Pentagon was the author of the book HELL TO PAY. So now what? It’s just like those radicals, accuse your enemies of what you are guilty of. Plus, lets not forget about the pardons of terrorists, the campaign money from our enemies the Chinese. The Clinton’s had lots of motives and opportunites, by contrast, Bush had no motive at all. Anyone who pardons and takes money from terrorists and takes money for the Communists are capable of anything.


3 posted on 09/06/2007 10:01:23 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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To: dervish

My Poll: 100% of those with an IQ larger than their shoe size firmy believe that Dumbocrats have crap for brains.


4 posted on 09/06/2007 10:02:15 PM PDT by Outland (Liberalism is a mental disorder. Socialism is a deep psychosis. Communism is brain cancer.)
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To: dervish

Lord, help us.


5 posted on 09/06/2007 10:03:39 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: dervish

Zogby is full of shite


6 posted on 09/06/2007 10:05:46 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Thompson - Hunter 2008 ... in any order)
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To: dervish

42% of demorats are as dumb as a post.


7 posted on 09/06/2007 10:06:08 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: dervish

Clearly, Democratism is a progressive mental disease.


8 posted on 09/06/2007 10:06:18 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: dervish

The loony left indeed.

It’s proven that mental instability and delusions occur after prolonged sickness due to BDS. I am surprised it’s not higher.


9 posted on 09/06/2007 10:06:20 PM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: dervish

>>Zogby poll: 42% of Democrats think Bush either caused 9/11 or let it happen<<

I think about 40% of Americans are democrats so thats about 16% of the population who believe this.

That’s about what I expected.


10 posted on 09/06/2007 10:07:44 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words)
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To: dervish
. . . (Zogby)describes himself as a liberal Democrat [citation needed]. . .Since May 2005 he has been a contributing blogger at The Huffington Post. . .Zogby is also scheduled to host a radio show on a new progressive talk radio network created by Nova M Radio Inc. . .

From Wikepedia

11 posted on 09/06/2007 10:10:56 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: dervish

And in another poll, 92% of left wing loonies believe that fire cannot melt steel.


12 posted on 09/06/2007 10:13:49 PM PDT by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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13 posted on 09/06/2007 10:21:37 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I’ve met these people. Heck I live with these people. For a moment they appear almost normal.


14 posted on 09/06/2007 10:26:11 PM PDT by dervish (Global warming is the collective hubris of a Godless left)
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15 posted on 09/06/2007 10:31:47 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: dervish
These people are nuts.

Their conspiracy theories are off the charts.

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16 posted on 09/06/2007 10:37:43 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: dervish

And to think I used to laugh when I heard Michael Savage say, “Liberalism is a mental disorder.”


17 posted on 09/06/2007 10:49:20 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I haven’t heard him lately - but I heard him say he made a mistake, the book should have been titled “Liberalisn is a DANGEROUS mental disorder”. And after he said that, he would always say the DANGEROUS in the quote.


18 posted on 09/06/2007 10:58:00 PM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Crim
The Democrats suffer from Bushitler Derangement Syndrome.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 09/06/2007 10:59:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dervish
As for the data on Asians, though, I’m at a loss as to how to explain it. Is that immigration backlash too? Are they including south Asians, like Pakistanis, in the group? Hmm.

The answer is "yes, they consider Pakistanis and Indians as 'Asians'".

Indians tend to take the Democrat view of things. SE Asians are conversely more conservative than native Americans. Take 9 Indians and 1 Filipino and get a liberal answer. 9 Filipinos and 1 Indian will give you the polar opposite.

20 posted on 09/06/2007 11:04:12 PM PDT by angkor ("Everyone is super stoked on me, even if they don't know it." - Al Gore, South Park 10.6)
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To: geopyg

Correct and true.


21 posted on 09/06/2007 11:30:34 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: dervish

Who put these sick thoughts into their heads?


22 posted on 09/06/2007 11:30:55 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Crim
"only 42%?"

My thoughts exactly. Considering the fruit-loops I encounter, I thought the percentage would be considerably higher.

23 posted on 09/07/2007 12:21:08 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: dervish

Projecting their sins - Clinton - onto the innocent.


24 posted on 09/07/2007 12:25:09 AM PDT by Paisan
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To: george76

great dart board, where are my darts?


25 posted on 09/07/2007 12:47:53 AM PDT by tina07 (In Memory of my Father - WWII Army Air Force Veteran)
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To: dervish

Well,

“By means of shrewd lies, unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell — and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”
~ Adolf Hitler
“The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one.”
~ Adolf Hitler

Sad, sad DUmmies. It is more certain than ever how strong kook fringe has grown in the Rat party. They hate Bush so much that they are actually have forced their little minds to believe he caused 9/11. Just because they care more about political expediency than this nation doesn’t mean Bush does.


26 posted on 09/07/2007 1:37:28 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: dervish
Does this guy run his polls out of a mosque or something?
27 posted on 09/07/2007 2:15:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: dervish

. As for the data on Asians, though, I’m at a loss as to how to explain it.


I can speak for (about?!) Japanese.. but not for Asians in general.... Not only do they not understand true politics (at least her in Japan), but they don`t care >.<

MJ


28 posted on 09/07/2007 3:29:40 AM PDT by MrJapan
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To: imahawk

42% of demorats are as dumb as a post.


correction:
99.999999999999(bar)% of demorats are as dumb as a post.


29 posted on 09/07/2007 3:31:54 AM PDT by MrJapan
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To: dervish

This shows us, the Americans, that rank and file Democrats can no longer be thought of differently from their party’s leadership. They are obviously all the same. We can’t just say “Well it’s not the guy next door who is the problem; it is the Democrat leadership that is the problem.” We must be honest and say “They really are the party of the enemy from top to bottom. They are aiding those who would murder us.”


30 posted on 09/07/2007 4:37:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Liberals are "American aliens." They were born IN America but they are not OF America.)
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To: dervish

There was a thread yesterday that the 911 truthers who paid for this poll claimed that 51% of all respondents wanted Bush/Cheney impeached over it.


31 posted on 09/07/2007 5:06:34 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: george76

We CAN stamp out BDS is our lifetime.


32 posted on 09/07/2007 5:07:31 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: george76
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33 posted on 09/07/2007 5:07:57 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Freedom of Speech is for everyone, not just liberals.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
“Clearly, Democratism is a progressive mental disease.”

You forgot that Democratism is a progressive, DEGENERTIVE mental disease.

34 posted on 09/07/2007 5:29:28 AM PDT by LottieDah (Democrats, AlQaeda and the ACLU working together to destroy America)
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To: dervish; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

The other 58 per cent said they didn’t, but actually do. ;’)

Sounds like the pool of polled is made up of 42 per cent Moslems and/or Arabs.

Thanks dervish.


35 posted on 09/07/2007 7:20:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dervish
Did you see this one?
Zogby International

September 06, 2007

Zogby Poll: 51% of Americans Want Congress to Probe Bush/Cheney Regarding 9/11 Attacks; Over 30% Seek Immediate Impeachment

67% also fault 9/11 Commission for not investigating anomalous collapse of World Trade Center 7
Demonstrates how biased these polls are. If you pay and keep paying, they will find some wackos to call to agree with anything you like and produce the polling results you want.

This one is also commissioned by 911truth.org, the best-known group in the Truther movement.
36 posted on 09/07/2007 7:35:53 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: dervish
When I was (much) younger, I was attracted to bizarre conspiracy theories myself, but after years of adult experience, I don't find most of them plausible anymore.

For instance, Bush is supposed to have planted demolition charges in the WTC to bring down the towers, and the planes were just meant for "cover". But this would require coordinating a demolition team with the hijackers, and a considerable chance of plans going awry from unforeseen causes. In fact, the hijackers of Flight 93 failed to reach their own objective because of a takeoff delay that gave the passengers time to understand and react to their plans.

Real life plans seldom come off as written, in contrast to those in fiction. And this is the crux of the matter. Conservatives base their judgements on experience of real life (that's why we're conservative); liberals are more influenced by "experiences" derived from their massive mental diet of fiction, where conspiracies of the WTC sort are staples, and not coincidentally, the only place where they can work.

Live in your mama's basement, spend half the normal working day in bed and the rest at the coffee shop, read avant-garde novels, watch bad TV, and believe that Karl Rove steered Katrina into NOLA with his secret weather machine. It's all of a piece.

37 posted on 09/07/2007 7:38:22 AM PDT by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: dervish
There’s the proof. 42% of all Democrats are completely stupid.
38 posted on 09/07/2007 7:43:02 AM PDT by kempo (blA)
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To: kempo

That’s what I would say too: dems are too dumb to discern reality from fiction. Now why on earth would anyone want their candidate/s making any kind of decisions...


39 posted on 09/07/2007 7:46:10 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: dervish

As positive as I might try and be, I read this and once again I’m convinced, it’s really only a matter of time, this country is finished... Oh the country may survive but it will never come close to what it once was and even what it is today.

More and more people are just too plain stupid and too damn lazy to do anything but what the MSM programs them to do. We are becoming a nation of robots with their hands out, demanding the government take care of all their needs.


40 posted on 09/07/2007 7:50:17 AM PDT by Beatthedrum
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The downfall of the public school system pays dividends for Democrats. When Democrats talk about education, they really mean indoctrination.


41 posted on 09/07/2007 7:56:45 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Biblebelter; Beatthedrum

I’m in the middle of reading David Horowitz’s book “Indoctrination U.” So far its great and disturbing.

http://www.conservativebookservice.com/products/BookPage.asp?prod_cd=c7026

Perhaps college youth will turn their rebellion on the ‘establishment’ left and their kooks.


42 posted on 09/07/2007 8:30:34 AM PDT by dervish (Global warming is the collective hubris of a Godless left)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Democratism is a progressive mental disease

I have thought this for many years. It is really beginning to show now with their opinions on 9-11, Iraq & Afghanistan, Iran, NK, lack of support for the USA and public agreement with the lesser elements in the world, man made global warming, unquestioning support for the UN, and many other issues.

This is possibly a good thing in the long run as the political "middle" people take notice. In the short term, it makes for instability and chaos.

43 posted on 09/07/2007 10:30:52 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: dervish

90% of those at liberty post believe it. 99% at the LP offshoots.


44 posted on 09/07/2007 10:33:34 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

This poll proves all dems are out of their minds and anyone who votes for libs are mentally ill! Anyonew tih that kind of thinkinig SHOULDN’T vote at all-EVER!


45 posted on 09/07/2007 10:37:33 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: dervish

Stupid is as stupid does.


46 posted on 09/07/2007 10:39:59 AM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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To: dervish

Rather than reading the blogger’s take on the poll, people should read the poll itself. It’s a wacky poll. According to the poll, 26% of conservatives believe the same thing as this 42%. And a third of weekly Wal-Mart shoppers do, too.


47 posted on 09/07/2007 10:52:10 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Badeye
Actually, as you can see from the poll results below, more moderates believe it than libertarians:

Although I admit, the 11% "made it happen" for libertarians is more than double even the liberals. So 11% of libertarians are confirmed kooks.

The "let it happen" crowd is responding to a broadly worded question, though. If someone believed that the government didn't do enough to try and prevent the attacks, then they would fall into the "let it happen" camp.

48 posted on 09/07/2007 11:05:03 AM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: Crim

Does this not really cement the perception that not only Democrat Party leaders are America’s enemies but almost half of their followers are too?? Good heavens, we have a voting populace of knaves and fools.


49 posted on 09/07/2007 11:13:39 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: King of Florida

‘Actually, as you can see from the poll results below, more moderates believe it than libertarians:’

I wasn’t speaking overall, I was addressing some specific websites now known more for crackpot conspiracy theories and being the place zotted freepers go to die.


50 posted on 09/07/2007 11:27:14 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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