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Top Secret: Bush Told the Truth About WMD
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 9/7/2007 | Deborah Weiss

Posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:49 AM PDT by SJackson

The secret’s out: on August 24th, 2007, UN weapons inspectors found 6 to 8 vials of chemical weapons sitting in an office at the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) headquarters in NYC. They found the vials when archiving files due to the fact that UNMOVIC is closing down its mission. They placed the vials in a sealed package and put them in a safe located in a secured room. Subsequently, on August 29, 2007, UNMOVIC employees discovered the inventory list which listed the content of the vials.

The vials contained the chemical phosgene, which according to the Center for Disease Control causes blurred vision, a burning sensation in the eyes and throat, difficulty breathing, coughing, nausea, vomiting, heart failure, fluid in the lungs, and death. It is a clear liquid, and when stored at room temperature, it converts to a poisoness gas. It was used as a choking agent in World War I and was responsible for multitudes of fatalities. In 1987 it was used by Iran during the Iran-Iraq War.

The FBI and NYC Police were called in to remove the vials, during which time UNMOVIC staff and other tenants on the same floor were asked to temporarily evacuate. Additionally, the UN building was sectioned off from the public and photographers. But not to worry. Jerry Haver, NYC’s former Emergency Services Directory explained, “[I]f it is properly sealed, it should not pose much of a threat unless it is dropped.” How comforting.

The vials were originally obtained by UNMOVIC in 1996, but apparently sat in the office unnoticed for the past decade. Normally, such vials should have been sent directly to the lab for testing and not to the UNMOVIC headquarters, but I suppose anyone could make such a mistake. Or….at least we know the UN can.

The UN is steeped in scandal, corruption, immorality, incompetence, and unaccountability. This is demonstrated by the Oil for Food scandal, the farce of the UN Human Rights Commission, the UN’s refusal to acknowledge the genocide in Darfur, the failures of its peacekeeping missions around the globe, including those in Rwanda and in Lebanon (1975). Historical as well current events are replete with numerous other examples as well. The UN often fails to promote peace as it is mandated to, and indeed, often hinders the peace process. Yet, the UN enjoys the benefits of international legitimacy, diplomatic immunity, and a twenty billion dollar per year budget (approximately 25% of which is funded by the US, making our nation the UN’s single largest contributor). But, I digress.

So, who is UNMOVIC? It is the agency which was created to replace the United Nations Special Commission Inspectors (UNSCOM). UNSCOM, established by Security Council Resolution 687 in 1991, was the original group sent to inspect Iraq for WMD. However, in 1998 the UNSCOM inspections collapsed when Iraq blocked the inspectors’ access. Subsequently, in 1999 the UN Security Council adopted Security Council Resolution 1284 which created UNMOVIC to continue with the mandate of disarming Iraq of its WMDs, and to monitor and verify Iraq’s compliance. In reality, UNMOVIC did not enter Iraq until 2002 after the passage of UN Resolution 1441, which threatened “serious consequences” if Iraq failed to comply with it obligations. And, unlike UNSCOM, UNMOVIC’s commission was made up at least partially of UN employees.

The vials found at UNMOVIC headquarters came from Al Muthanna, Iraq’s prime facility for chemical weapons research, production and storage. In 1984, with the intent to develop greater self reliance in the production of chemical munitions, Iraq began to create facilities that would be dual use, i.e. they would be used for a legitimate programs as well as WMD programs. Iraq’s state construction company, Al Fao General Establishment, was involved in the construction of all Iraq’s sites and facilities involving chemical weapons, biological weapons, and other WMDs. This included Al Muthanna. Not surprisingly, Iraq insinuated that Al Muthanna was designed merely for research on pesticides, and originally named the facility the “State Establishment for Pesticide Production.” However, according to UNMOVIC’s documents, this facility was authorized to produce casings for radiological bombs. It also worked closely with Iraq’s nuclear program and obtained its information from the same technical research center as the Al Hakam biological weapons facility.

Also according to its own documents, UNMOVIC found, identified and commenced the destruction of approximately 50 litres of mustard, as well as other chemicals. But, presumably that didn’t count as WMD because it was nothing new from UNSCOM’s findings and the destruction of these chemicals was merely a continuation of the pre-existing process. However, UNMOVIC admitted that it was “not possible” to verify the destruction of all WMD’s or Iraq’s declarations regarding the quantities of biological weapons and chemical weapons, because Iraq did not retain complete production, storage and deployment records. Iraq claimed that these records were unilaterally destroyed.

Most important, UNMOVIC’s compendium summary entitled, “observations and lessons learned” prefaces its conclusions by stating that the life of the UNMOVIC inspections (November 2002 through March 2003), a mere five months, was much shorter than anticipated. It explains that had UNMOVIC been provided with the time necessary, it might have been able to set forth a more detailed and thorough report and pursue questions raised to conclusion. It explicitly warns that the strict time constraints under which it was operating, “limit the confidence in the inspection results obtained.”

Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, in one of his speeches arguing in favor of invading Iraq, he explained the dilemma something to this effect:

Let’s say one day you go to a man’s home and enter his bedroom. In the top drawer of his night table you find a gun, which he admits he owns. Now let’s say a month later you go to that same man’s house and go to his bedroom. You look in the dresser drawer and the gun isn’t there. You ask him “where’s the gun?” If he says, “what gun? I don’t know anything about a gun,” you can’t just say “Ok” and take his word for it. He had the gun before, so one of two things happened. Either he still has the gun and hid it somewhere, or he disposed of the gun, in which case he should be able to explain how he disposed of it. But in no case, can you conclude that the gun never existed in the first place.

Yet, that is exactly what Saddam Hussein did, and somehow the left still found him credible. Bush must be the one who lied!

This is the question: since at some point Saddam Hussein admitted that he had stockpiles of WMD, how could he have subsequently made them vanish into thin air without a trace, without documentation, without evidence of destruction, without residual contamination, and without witnesses?

We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that some of the chemical agents landed in UNMOVIC’s office. It strains credulity to think that eight vials encompassed the entire sum of Saddam’s chemical stockpile. However, it does not at all strain credulity to realize that the mainstream press is hardly mentioning this discovery, despite the fact that it has been known for a week. Does this new-found evidence lend credence to the Administration’s decision to invade Iraq? Is it possible that President Bush told the truth about Iraq’s WMD’s? Shhh….it’s a secret


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; phosgene; unaccountable; unitednations; unmovic; unoutofus; usoutofun; wmd; wmds
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1 posted on 09/07/2007 7:01:52 AM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 09/07/2007 7:04:25 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: SJackson
Well there is news from another thread: "Tests of chemicals removed from the offices of United Nations came back negative for the deadly nerve gas phosgene, two law enforcement sources told WNBC.com."

So the media will hold on to the whole "Bush lied about WMD" thing a while longer.

3 posted on 09/07/2007 7:08:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: SJackson
The vials contained the chemical phosgene

Old media = slow media.

This was disputed several days ago - tests on the stuff showed no WMD.

4 posted on 09/07/2007 7:13:33 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

“This was disputed several days ago - tests on the stuff showed no WMD.”

Assume you believe the test results.


5 posted on 09/07/2007 7:16:21 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SJackson
Excerpt From OpinionJournal.com:

"[Iraq weapons inspector David] Kay has also speculated that Saddam may have thought he had WMD because his own generals and scientists lied to him. "The scientists were able to fake programs," the chief inspector says. This is entirely plausible, because aides who didn't tell Saddam what he wanted to hear were often tortured and killed. We know from post-invasion interrogations that Saddam's own generals believed that Iraq had WMD. If they thought so, it's hard to fault the CIA for believing it too."

6 posted on 09/07/2007 7:19:40 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: SJackson

The confusion is, in itself, significant. If the UN can’t keep track of their own seized materials, how are they going to track materials that someone is trying to hide?


7 posted on 09/07/2007 7:20:55 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Free commerce is the only just way to redistribute wealth.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; SJackson

“So the media will hold on to the whole “Bush lied about WMD” thing a while longer.”

But the media still can’t answer the gun in the dresser question: What happened to the WMD’s that Iraq is known to have had?


8 posted on 09/07/2007 7:22:58 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: SlowBoat407

The confusion is, in itself, significant. If the UN can’t keep track of their own seized materials, how are they going to track materials that someone is trying to hide?
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The UN remains a farse and a terrorist-supporting bunch of anti-American losers. They should have been thrown out of this country and sent to Cuba or Europe where they belong. Their incompetence is exceeded only by their criminality. Just ask Kofi Annan.


9 posted on 09/07/2007 7:25:46 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SJackson

This has been all over the MSM. Hasn’t anyone else seen it?


10 posted on 09/07/2007 7:27:15 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: rwa265
But the media still can’t answer ...

Oh, that's not a problem. The media just doesn't ask that question, so the lack of an answer is not apparent to most of the voters.

Media bias is in what the media says, and also in what the media decides not to say (or ask).

11 posted on 09/07/2007 7:28:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Piquaboy
This has been all over the MSM. Hasn’t anyone else seen it?

I don't watch the news much. About the only thing I've heard on it for the last 2 weeks is Larry Craig wah wah wah, Larry Craig wah wah, Larry Craig waaaahh. Oh yeah, an Steve Fossett.

I come to FR to find out whats really happening in the world.

12 posted on 09/07/2007 7:40:43 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: SJackson
1. Everyone in the world thought Saddam had WMDs.
2. He was allowed by Clintoon to kick out the inspectors.
Therefore the whole WMD issue falls at the feet of Clinton and Saddam.
13 posted on 09/07/2007 7:41:20 AM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: mountn man

I sure do hear you on that. I only watch Fox and even they were beating that horse to death.


14 posted on 09/07/2007 7:42:59 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: rwa265

“What happened to the WMD’s that Iraq is known to have had?”

I believe they were moved elsewhere. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t recall any of these inspections being a total surprise.

I always assumed they were ahead of the inspectors just far enough to hide or move it all.


15 posted on 09/07/2007 7:44:08 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: SJackson

As always, it was the facilities and programs to produce WMD that were the whole point. Those were found.

Chem and Bio weapons stockpiles would never have been all that large anyway. You don’t need very much of either one on hand even if you’re planning to use them in upcoming combat operations. You don’t *want* very much around. It’s very much a make-and-use on-the-spot sort of thing.

Large stockpiles of such things become a very complex logistics problem. They can leak. Shelf-lives expire, and then you’ve got a big cleanup and disposal problem.

So this vision the media keeps pushing of proposed huge vaults full of thousands of chemical-filled artillery shells is just a fantasy. It would be highly unlikely that there was ever very much on hand at any given moment.

It was the means to produce them and the willingness to use them and sell them to terrorist groups that was the problem. WAS the problem. Now it’s not the problem.

Good.

:-)


16 posted on 09/07/2007 7:44:17 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SJackson; All

I’ve said this from day one. The left accomplished a very important victory from the start - they framed the war as imposing a burden on the US to prove Iraq had WMDs. That was never the case. The burden was on Iraq to prove it didn’t and it failed. Not finding large stockpiles was not a failure, a lie, etc. It was a mystery. Where the hell did it all go? There’s no proof it was every destroyed. To date we have no idea where the WMDs they said they had went. As Hans Blix found, they never accounted for the materials. The left reframed this war and the American public is still buying it.


17 posted on 09/07/2007 7:45:01 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Yo-Yo
Someone knows what happened to some of the stuff. My son’s unit, on their first deployment, found containers of Sarin gas. That was over two years ago.
18 posted on 09/07/2007 7:50:42 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: SJackson

The entire controversy goes to, as it always does, the MSM/Democrat’s ability to frame the debate. Are Chem/Bio weapons cosidered WMD’s...of course. But the MSM/Democrat’s stance is that Bush’s reference to “nuclear” capability was what they hung their hat on and decided to support the Iraq war. Now, even upon the rediscovery of Chem/Bio weapons they still won’t yield since Nuclear hasn’t been found. So, they heard the whole arguement but pinned their support only on the Nuclear aspect, ergo, no nulear...”we were lied to”. And, if they are sincere (which they’re not) shame on them for only hearing part of the debate. The truth is that they are insinsere and are using the lack of Nuclear weaponry found to explain their early support.


19 posted on 09/07/2007 8:13:55 AM PDT by vigilence
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To: enough_idiocy

And how much space would a vial of superdisease take exactly? A lot of the stuff they used could very easily be hidden and moved.

I believe most of they time they knew when & where the next inspection was going to be. Of course, they won’t move anything, but follow the law and wait for the inspectors just like crooks at home follow the gun control laws./s


20 posted on 09/07/2007 8:15:19 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: SJackson
The vials contained the chemical phosgene

Apparently not.

Would that affect the rest of the essay?

21 posted on 09/07/2007 8:18:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Califreak

The new nuclear reactors will have an updesigned concrete exterior to withstand the impact of crashing airliners.


22 posted on 09/07/2007 8:22:00 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: SJackson
I have never doubted that Saddam had WMD. I read a great book by one of his scientists who defected. He was forced to work on building a nuclear bomb for Saddam.

I was listening to a talk radio show at the time that our troops killed Saddam’s sons and one Middle Eastern guy (pro-American) called in and said, “Thank God, we’ve finally found the WMD — Saddam’s sons. They are responsible for the death of thousands.”

23 posted on 09/07/2007 8:23:20 AM PDT by bethtopaz (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you hav)
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To: SJackson
I have never doubted that Saddam had WMD. I read a great book by one of his scientists who defected. He was forced to work on building a nuclear bomb for Saddam.

I was listening to a talk radio show at the time that our troops killed Saddam’s sons and one Middle Eastern guy (pro-American) called in and said, “Thank God, we’ve finally found the WMD — Saddam’s sons. They are responsible for the death of thousands.”

24 posted on 09/07/2007 8:23:40 AM PDT by bethtopaz (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you hav)
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To: EagleUSA
Their incompetence is exceeded only by their criminality. Just ask Kofi Annan.

And his crook/rapist brother.

25 posted on 09/07/2007 8:26:43 AM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: RightWhale
Apparently not...Would that affect the rest of the essay?

Not in my mind, the burden was on Sadaam to prove the destruction of the weapons. The fact that it wasn't phosgene, known only after long delayed testing, also goes to the competency of the inspection process.

26 posted on 09/07/2007 8:37:59 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: ClearCase_guy
deadly nerve gas phosgene

Since phosgene isn't a nerve gas, it is a lung irritant, are they cleverly parsing or just ignorant?

My vote is ignorant.

27 posted on 09/07/2007 8:39:52 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (If you agree with Democrats you agree with America's enemies.)
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To: Eagle Eye
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's ignorance.

But I'm sure some Clintonista type is fully prepared to deny that "any -- I mean ANY -- WMD" had ever been found in Iraq.

But, when possibly presented with data on phosgene, they would simply shrug and say, "Oh, phosgene. That's a lung irritant. It's not really a nerve gas, you know. I thought we were talking about nerve gas. When you say WMD, I just figured you meant nerve gas. Phosgene, sure. They had that. That's old news. Let's move on."

28 posted on 09/07/2007 8:46:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Phosgene is a blister agent, not a nerve agent. Small wonder.


29 posted on 09/07/2007 8:52:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: RightWhale

Covering all bases, huh?


30 posted on 09/07/2007 8:54:11 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I don’t care what it is! It sounds nasty and shouldn’t be stored in a filing cabinet at the UN.


31 posted on 09/07/2007 8:56:11 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: enough_idiocy
"I’ve said this from day one. The left accomplished a very important victory from the start - they framed the war as imposing a burden on the US to prove Iraq had WMDs. That was never the case. The burden was on Iraq to prove it didn’t and it failed. Not finding large stockpiles was not a failure, a lie, etc..."

100% correct. The entire ordeal was always about the verification of disarmament with the onus on the Hussein regime.

32 posted on 09/07/2007 9:01:09 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

and to date the GOP/Bush have not addressed this. This is a compelling argument. The whole point of the war and preemptive doctrine is to not sit and wait. If there’s a reasonable basis for suspecting a threat to the US, we have to act. Saying you have tons of X, Y, Z and then saying you have none without proving that to be so presents a threat in my view if the country saying it has used them before and been involved in terrorism and attacks agains the US.


33 posted on 09/07/2007 9:04:22 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: edcoil
Assume you believe the test results.

Hmmmm, let's see, scientific test results or a politician...what to believe...

34 posted on 09/07/2007 9:06:02 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Califreak
It is nasty, and a lot of Allied troops were killed or maimed for life by the stuff in WWI.

As for the UN, I don't think they should store the UN at the UN. It is a waste of valuable real estate.

35 posted on 09/07/2007 9:06:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“As for the UN, I don’t think they should store the UN at the UN. It is a waste of valuable real estate.”

I am somewhat Birchy on this issue myself.


36 posted on 09/07/2007 9:08:21 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: billbears
“Hmmmm, let’s see, scientific test results or a politician...what to believe...”

How many FBI labs have been compromised?

37 posted on 09/07/2007 9:08:50 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
How many FBI labs have been compromised?

How many politicians lie to get their agenda pushed through? Far more than FBI labs have been compromised

38 posted on 09/07/2007 9:11:20 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Izzy Dunne

According to her article, the vilas contained PHOSGENE, not Nerve agent.

Phosgene is MUSTARD GAS.

Mustard Gas is a WMD.

Do you have a link to where they said it was what?


39 posted on 09/07/2007 9:21:22 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
Do you have a link to where they said it was what?

Here's one

I have no opinion on their believability - It's an anonymous UN official that said it, so they just might stretch the truth a bit.

40 posted on 09/07/2007 9:27:21 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: billbears
Hmmmm, let's see, scientific test results or a politician...what to believe...

Well now that I look at it it's an anonymous UN Official who announced that it was a "a non-toxic solvent" instead of phosgene.

Although I heard reports that it was suspended in oil, a remarkable step for turpentine or something.

So then the question becomes:

let's see, anonymous UN spokesman or a politician...what to believe.

A more difficult choice.

41 posted on 09/07/2007 9:35:50 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Okay, thanks!


42 posted on 09/07/2007 9:40:09 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
According to this story:

The material — identified in inventory files as phosgene, a chemical substance used in World War I weapons — was discovered Aug. 24. It was only identified on Wednesday because it was marked simply with an inventory number, and officials had to check the many records in their vast archives, said Ewen Buchanan, a spokesman for the U.N. inspection agency."

The "phosgene" tag got put on it only by paperwork, not by looking at the contents.

Again, this is from AP, not like a reliable source.

43 posted on 09/07/2007 9:41:51 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: RaceBannon
Do you have a link to where they said it was what?

Link

At least this one is attributed:
Tests at a military facility in Maryland identified the substance as a nontoxic commercial solvent, said Paul J. Brown, deputy commissioner of the New York City Police Department.

Then again, it's CNN, so youse takes youse chances...

44 posted on 09/07/2007 9:44:58 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Phosgene is a blister agent, not a nerve agent.

Actually it's a choking agent.

L

45 posted on 09/07/2007 9:47:10 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker
Phosgene is a blister agent, not a nerve agent.

Actually it's a choking agent.

Apparently it's a publicity agent.

46 posted on 09/07/2007 9:51:13 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I’d like to know just what solvent it was!

Also, how in the world did it get labeled as Mustard Gas!


47 posted on 09/07/2007 9:58:20 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
how in the world did it get labeled as Mustard Gas!

Did you read what I posted in #43?

It never was labeled as phosgene, it was labeled as 532-6685321B or something, and a paper somewhere said that 532-6685321B = Phosgene.

So somewhere there's a vial numbered 532-6685321C that REALLY IS phosgene, for all I know.

Gives you great confidence in the UN inspections process, doesn't it?

48 posted on 09/07/2007 10:08:01 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne; Smokin' Joe

It's a floor wax and a desert topping!

L

49 posted on 09/07/2007 10:08:05 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: RaceBannon
Reading my post #48 again, it reads as if I was chiding you; I did not mean that at all.
I should have said "Did you notice what I posted..."
50 posted on 09/07/2007 10:14:25 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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