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Boxy East German icon plans comeback (Bringing back the Trabant)
Reuters ^ | 9/6/07 | Adam Williams

Posted on 09/07/2007 8:00:39 AM PDT by jalisco555

BERLIN (Reuters) - Nearly two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall a German company plans to give the Trabant, a stinky two-cylinder car that became the symbol of communist East Germany, a new lease of life.

The new Trabants will no longer have tiny engines, noxious fumes and plastic bodies but will retain the iconic design of the original -- like Volkswagen's new Beetle or the new Mini.

The Trabant was the most common vehicle in the former East Germany and was produced without major changes for nearly 30 years. Known in the West as a "spark plug with a roof" because of its small size, East Germans queued for years to buy one.

Despite its cramped interior and weak engine, the boxy car came to be regarded with affection and now has cult status.

Herpa, a well-known Bavarian manufacturer of miniature vehicles, wants to capitalize on nostalgia for the "Trabi" and bought the rights to the name with a view to creating a full-sized revamped version of the car.

"There's been a new Beetle, a new Mini, it's time for a new Trabi," press spokesman Daniel Stiegler told Reuters. "The reception to our idea has been fantastic."

The company will present a 1:10 scale model of its concept at the International Motor Show in Frankfurt next week. The initial design has the two-door, four-seater car painted in the once omnipresent sky-blue color.

Production will be negotiated based on the reaction at the show. "A limited run of 5,000 is the mostly likely option," said Stiegler. "We are in talks with several manufacturers".

Herpa is considering a model equipped with a BMW engine, which would retail at around 50,000 euros ($68,320). Restored vintage models in good condition by contrast sell for around 10,000 euros, based on offers on Internet auction sites.

When it was first designed in the late 1950s the original Trabant was only expected to stay in production until 1967. But new designs later proposed to replace it were rejected by the East German leadership on grounds of cost.

The car became a cult symbol after images of East Germans crossing the border in their Trabis were beamed to millions across the world in November 1989 when the Berlin Wall fell.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: automobiles; automotive; bmw; eastgermany; stasi; trabant
Ostalgia strikes again! What's next, the return of the Stasi?
1 posted on 09/07/2007 8:00:43 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555
The Trabant was the most common vehicle in the former East Germany and was produced without major changes for nearly 30 years.

Reuters.... At least they didn't describe it as best-selling! It was virtually the only car available for East Germans to buy, and you had to wait years for it at that!

2 posted on 09/07/2007 8:04:22 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jalisco555

Didnt those cars have wooden frames too?


3 posted on 09/07/2007 8:04:49 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Chuin, Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: jalisco555
The new Trabants will no longer have tiny engines, noxious fumes and plastic bodies but will retain the iconic design of the original

Does it come in a hybrid?

4 posted on 09/07/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: Rummyfan

Well, in it’s favor you probably didn’t have any problem finding parts since they never changed the design. And you didn’t have to worry about the AC or electric window openers failing (since they didn’t have any)


5 posted on 09/07/2007 8:06:18 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: jalisco555
The car became a cult symbol after images of East Germans crossing the border in their Trabis were beamed to millions across the world in November 1989 when the Berlin Wall fell.

I was there. Crappy little cardboard cars with smoky 2-cylinder engines dodging into the passing lane on the Autobahn with no notice. A BMW 7-series would come up and cut the little car (and it's five occupants) in two and scatter them about the roadway. The BMW would suffer fascia damage and pull over a mile down the road. Germany banned them from the road 1 year after importation. Deathtraps.
6 posted on 09/07/2007 8:07:43 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: jalisco555

The eco-version.............

7 posted on 09/07/2007 8:08:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: jalisco555
Reminds me of German watches with Russian movements still produced by Garde Ruhla. There's still the workhouse 3133 chronograph and Molnija 6303. Also used by Aristo in its Apucto line.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 09/07/2007 8:08:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jalisco555
Great googly moogly. There's a Trabant dealer in the US...

SHOC Auto, Inc. Trabants and specialty car sales

9 posted on 09/07/2007 8:09:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: jalisco555

Sounds like time for my proposed theme park - Eight Flags over Germany. Roman Empire, Barbarians, Feudal Period, Holy Roman Empire, Empire, 3rd Reich, Communism, and EuroLand.


10 posted on 09/07/2007 8:09:30 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: jalisco555
Herpa is considering a model equipped with a BMW engine, which would retail at around 50,000 euros ($68,320).

The very thing to impress your fellow workers and peasants.

11 posted on 09/07/2007 8:09:46 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Red Badger
Isn't it a bit dangerous sittin' so close to that thing's tailpipe?

;o)
12 posted on 09/07/2007 8:10:12 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: Armedanddangerous

English manufacturer Morgan made their sports cars on wood frames.


13 posted on 09/07/2007 8:11:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Rummyfan

A real interesting phenomenon with the waiting time for a new Trabi...

A used Trabi that you could buy now was a lot more expensive (in terms of the GDR monopoly money Mark) than a new Trabi you would wait for years to buy.

I found that to be an interesting real life example of the Law of Unintended Consequences and what a “planned economy” actually looks like.


14 posted on 09/07/2007 8:11:30 AM PDT by L,TOWM ("Protesting Clinton's wars was'nt cool..." - Jeneane Garafolo, 2003)
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To: jalisco555

15 posted on 09/07/2007 8:11:49 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: jalisco555

Old East German Trabant ad:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MQwj0EqOQJw


16 posted on 09/07/2007 8:11:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: jalisco555
I happened to be in "East" Germany very shortly after the fall of the wall. These cars were very curious---sounded more like a lawn mower than a car, smelled very bad---and a whole bunch of them had come off the assembly line with a defect: These cars could not make a right turn!

Oh the irony--LOL!

17 posted on 09/07/2007 8:13:13 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: LIConFem

Well, they’ll haveta put on modern pollution controls!............


18 posted on 09/07/2007 8:13:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: jalisco555


"Is good very car, da?"
19 posted on 09/07/2007 8:16:12 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: dighton

Or your fellow gangsta Rappers..............

20 posted on 09/07/2007 8:16:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Red Badger

East German version of a hybrid.


21 posted on 09/07/2007 8:17:07 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: L,TOWM; jalisco555

Now a Skoda - that was a car!


22 posted on 09/07/2007 8:17:59 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jalisco555

LOL!......Is that a mule or a horse?...........


23 posted on 09/07/2007 8:19:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: jalisco555

Just the car to impress your Communist friends with.


24 posted on 09/07/2007 8:20:34 AM PDT by wjcsux (Tolerance is NOT a virtue!)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Living in Germany in the 80s I and most of my colleagues opted for Beemers or Audis, and one or two went with Mercedes’ or Porsche. One of my more frugal workmates purchased a Citroen 2CV. It was dangerous to drive on the autobahn in that thing!


25 posted on 09/07/2007 8:20:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Notice he’s wearing rubber boots. Do the floors leak ?


26 posted on 09/07/2007 8:32:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I owned a Trabbi for a couple of years.
I was brought here for the movie ‘Driving me Crazy”
I was a very reliable car. I put close to 40.000 miles on it and it never let me down. Not even a flat tire.
I once was driving on Sunset Blvd and a guy in a 250 Gt Ferrari pulled up and gave me the thumbs up.

Here is the movie.

http://wc04.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=1:14827

27 posted on 09/07/2007 8:51:52 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: jalisco555

While driving, you can use your elbow as a rear-window defroster.

The actual rear-window defroster helps keep your hands warm while traveling uphill.


28 posted on 09/07/2007 9:53:29 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dighton

>> Herpa is considering a model equipped with a BMW engine, which would retail at around 50,000 euros ($68,320). <<

Can you catch Herpas by driving a Volvo?


29 posted on 09/07/2007 9:55:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Rummyfan

The assistand Corps Commander to V Corps (two star) around 1990 drove a “Duck”. Parked it at the Abrams complex next to other officer’s BMWs and Mercedes.


30 posted on 09/07/2007 9:57:18 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: jalisco555

I saw a few of these when I lived in Poland as an exchange student in the mid-90’s...my one host brother told me that you could buy one for 2 bottles of vodka at that time...:)

the new model is gonna be a bit more expensive, eh?


31 posted on 09/07/2007 10:18:05 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: jalisco555
What's next, the return of the Stasi?

Oh, they're still around. I understand they had great employment opportunities as taxi drivers in the former East Germany.

You only had to tell them your name when you got in the cab, they already know where you lived.

32 posted on 09/07/2007 10:26:01 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: jalisco555

I’ll never forget being on the road to Berlin in ‘88. The westerners were driving newer VW’s, Audi’s, BMW’s and Mercedes.

The easterners were driving old rusty Trabi’s. I turned to my travelling companion and astutely predicted that the wall would soon come down. It was only a matter of time that those in the east would demand the finer things available in the west.

I was amazed when my prediction came true, less than 6 months later.


33 posted on 09/07/2007 10:26:57 AM PDT by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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To: dangus
Can you catch Herpas by driving a Volvo?

Yikes, I hope not. I have one.

34 posted on 09/07/2007 10:28:31 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: stefanbatory
The new model is gonna be a bit more expensive, eh?

Yeah, but vodka's gotten a lot more expensive since then too.

35 posted on 09/07/2007 10:29:53 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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To: Rummyfan

The new Skodas are pretty decent. They are now basically VW clones.


36 posted on 09/07/2007 11:41:54 AM PDT by tarator
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To: basil

” These cars were very curious-—sounded more like a lawn mower than a car,”

Truth be told, so did the Jaguar XKE.


37 posted on 09/07/2007 5:09:46 PM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

IIRC, the Morgan also had a leather strap across the hood (or bonnet). Haven’t seen one of them in years.


38 posted on 09/07/2007 7:38:50 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: jalisco555

shoot...I was there 3 years ago and you could get a fifth for $2.50...


39 posted on 09/07/2007 8:26:10 PM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: stefanbatory
shoot...I was there 3 years ago and you could get a fifth for $2.50...

I'm partial to Hangar One, which costs a whole lot more than $2.50

40 posted on 09/08/2007 2:59:08 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("The only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history." Winston Churchill)
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