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There IS a God : World's Foremost Former Atheist, Antony Flew Writes a Book Explaining His Reasons.
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Posted on 09/07/2007 12:53:40 PM PDT by SirLinksalot

For your perusal : Former foremost atheist, Philosopher, Antony Flew's latest book -- "There IS a God : How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind".

Antony Flew was one of the world's most prominent atheist who wrote many books trying to debunk the notion of the existence of God.

He has debated many Christian thinkers like Gary Habermas and William Lane Craig on the issue in the past and was considered a champion of atheism.

Among his most famous books promoting atheism are :

* Hume's Philosophy of Belief (1961)

* Logic And Language (1961) editor

* God and Philosophy (1966)

* Logic & Language (Second Series) (1966) editor * Evolutionary Ethics (1967)

* Darwinian Evolution (1984)

* God, Freedom and Immortality: A Critical Analysis. (1984)

* The Presumption of Atheism (1984)

* God: A Critical Inquiry (1986)

* Does God Exist?: A Believer and an Atheist Debate (1991) with Terry L. Miethe

* Does God Exist: The Craig-Flew Debate (2003) with William Lane Craig

However, after re-thinking the issue for a long time, Flew announced that he has come to believe in God, three years ago (2004).

Antony Flew, has now authored a book with HarperCollins (There Is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind, October 23, 2007), his co-author being Roy Varghese, author of the Intelligent Design friendly book : WONDER OF THE WORLD: A JOURNEY FROM MODERN SCIENCE INTO THE MIND OF GOD

Charles H. Townes - Nobel Prize winner and inventor of the laser, has actually endoresed Varghese's book as : "...a sensitive, profound and clear discussion of the important issues of our universe and our existence."

This is how the Publisher describes Flew's latest book :

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For the first time, this book will present a detailed and fascinating account of Flew's riveting decision to revoke his previous beliefs and argue for the existence of God. Ever since Flew's announcement, there has been great debate among atheists and believers alike about what exactly this "conversion" means. There Is a God will finally put this debate to rest.

This is a story of a brilliant mind and reasoned thinker, and where his lifelong intellectual pursuit eventually led him: belief in God as designer.

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This book is sure to be a facinating read for the open-minded.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antonyflew; atheism; atheist; bookreview; god
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1 posted on 09/07/2007 12:53:47 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

And He has very few people He can call His trusted friends...


2 posted on 09/07/2007 12:56:23 PM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Sly, Shy, and Wry)
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To: SirLinksalot

This same guy wrote a book very similar to this one year ago.


3 posted on 09/07/2007 12:57:43 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: gcruse

There might be a “cure” after all, lol!


4 posted on 09/07/2007 12:58:41 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; metmom

Ping...


5 posted on 09/07/2007 1:00:25 PM PDT by Sopater (A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left. ~ Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: SirLinksalot

“You believe that there is one God: you do well. The devils
also believe, and tremble.” James 2:19


6 posted on 09/07/2007 1:01:53 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

The thing that impresses me about Antony Flew is this — he isn’t the sort of person who REFUSES to be convinced when he realizes that he is wrong. In other words, being a top college professor never made him arrogant. He is willing to pursue the evidence wherever it leads.

If you saw his debates with Gary Habermas for instance, he was forceful in his views, but was totally lucid, kind and down to earth, never looking down at people even when they were not as highly educated as he is.


7 posted on 09/07/2007 1:02:31 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

C.S. Lewis, one of the most prolific Christian writers, was also a staunch athiest at one time, but he was never a prolific athiest writer like Flew. I am going to get Flew’s “conversion” book, should be very inteesting reading.


8 posted on 09/07/2007 1:03:29 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Remember, if you really want it badly enough, the mother and child reunion is only emotion away.


9 posted on 09/07/2007 1:04:35 PM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: beethovenfan
“You believe that there is one God: you do well. The devils also believe, and tremble.” James 2:19

Good quote. I hasten to add that Flew IS NOT A CHRISTIAN. Only a believer in the existence of God. He has not by his own admission, taken that step (yet) pending further evidence and personal investigation ( but at 84, I don't know how much time he still has... ).
10 posted on 09/07/2007 1:04:49 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: HerrBlucher
"inteesting"

Is that a new FR code word? I can't keep up. :^)

11 posted on 09/07/2007 1:08:45 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Your results may vary. Void where prohibited.)
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To: gcruse

Do you know Paul Simon got that expression from a dish in a chinese restaurant?

“Know where the words came from on that? You would never have guessed. I was eating in a Chinese restaurant downtown. There was a dish called “Mother and Child Reunion.” It’s chicken and eggs. And I said, “Oh, I love that title. I gotta use that one.”


12 posted on 09/07/2007 1:10:05 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: SirLinksalot
HABERMAS: Once you mentioned to me that your view might be called Deism. Do you think that would be a fair designation?

FLEW: Yes, absolutely right. What Deists, such as the Mr. Jefferson who drafted the American Declaration of Independence, believed was that, while reason, mainly in the form of arguments to design, assures us that there is a God, there is no room either for any supernatural revelation of that God or for any transactions between that God and individual human beings.

Source

13 posted on 09/07/2007 1:12:34 PM PDT by js1138
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To: SirLinksalot

Must’ve gotten an unfavorable diagnosis. /humor (sort of)

It’s easy to believe in God when you have nothing else left: the challenge is believing and living a Christian life when you’re healthy, successful and prosperous.


14 posted on 09/07/2007 1:12:40 PM PDT by Spok
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To: SirLinksalot

From Wikipedia: (In an article) Flew states that he has left his long-standing espousal of atheism by endorsing a deism of the sort that Thomas Jefferson advocated (”While reason, mainly in the form of arguments to design, assures us that there is a God, there is no room either for any supernatural revelation of that God or for any transactions between that God and individual human beings.”).

. . .

He’s reasoned himself to God in the abstract.

Lord, if it is your will, put your fire in Flew’s heart and make his understanding concrete. Say hello Lord.


15 posted on 09/07/2007 1:16:02 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: SirLinksalot
but at 84, I don't know how much time he still has... )

My thoughts as well. Has the smell of a deathbed conversion...not that there is anything wrong with that!

16 posted on 09/07/2007 1:18:02 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Peace based on respected strength is truly peace; peace based on weakness is ignoble slavery)
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To: SirLinksalot
HABERMAS: I agree that near death experiences do not evidence the doctrines of either heaven or hell. But do you think these evidential cases increase the possibility of some sort of an afterlife, again, given your theism?

FLEW: I still hope and believe there’s no possibility of an afterlife.


17 posted on 09/07/2007 1:19:18 PM PDT by js1138
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To: SirLinksalot
He couldn’t provide a naturalistic explanation for the first reproducing organism.
18 posted on 09/07/2007 1:23:49 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SirLinksalot

I’d like to read this guy’s book. From the way you describe him, he seems like an interesting fellow. Your description of his intellectual curiosity leading to his change in thinking is the most interesting part. I just hope his “belief” is more than just the existential angst of an old man facing his own mortality.

The ego of man alone is enough impetus to believe in God I imagine, although perhaps that’s not enough in God’s eyes, lol.


19 posted on 09/07/2007 1:25:10 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary has given Bill a new title: Chief Flying Monkey)
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To: I still care

Yup.

Here’s another one for ya.

The idea for popular song came from Popsicles,Icicles, a song of the sixties where the lyrics went...

Bright stars and guitars and
Drive-ins on Friday night
These are a few of the things we love

“Guitars and” was smoothed together in Icicles, Popsicles until it sounded like Guitarzan. A few years later, Ray made his recording.


20 posted on 09/07/2007 1:26:58 PM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: SirLinksalot

read later


21 posted on 09/07/2007 1:28:52 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
He couldn’t provide a naturalistic explanation for the first reproducing organism.

And your point is what?

For several thousand years astronomers lacked a naturalistic description of gravity. Was gravity during that period a manefestation of unspecified pushers and shovers?

22 posted on 09/07/2007 1:29:07 PM PDT by js1138
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To: SirLinksalot

He also did a great job of exposes the procedural disingenuousness in Rawls’ Theory of Justice.


23 posted on 09/07/2007 1:31:39 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: SirLinksalot
You know ... they have Dial-A-Prayer for athiests now ...

You call it and no one answers.
24 posted on 09/07/2007 1:37:43 PM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: Greg F
"From Wikipedia: (In an article) Flew states that he has left his long-standing espousal of atheism by endorsing a deism ... "While reason, mainly in the form of arguments to design, assures us that there is a God, there is no room either for any supernatural revelation of that God or for any transactions between that God and individual human beings."

Deism is such weak sauce; totally unaccountable for free will. Further, Jefferson postulated deism as one part of his (somewhat unfortunately) ever-shifting view of God he espoused during his lifetime -- however, his postulation, per se, is entirely apropos of the Enlightenment period.

25 posted on 09/07/2007 1:38:55 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: BlabItGrabIt
And He has very few people He can call His trusted friends...

I suspect that is much less true today than it was five years ago.

26 posted on 09/07/2007 1:39:02 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: beethovenfan
“You believe that there is one God: you do well. The devils also believe, and tremble.” James 2:19

A profoundly educational verse for the masses of the world.

MM (in TX)

27 posted on 09/07/2007 1:41:20 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: StAnDeliver

Well, it is his free will to deny his own free will.


28 posted on 09/07/2007 1:42:38 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Spok

Is that like riding the roller coaster again while your pants are still wet?


29 posted on 09/07/2007 1:54:05 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: I still care
Well I was down in Chinatown
Eatin' some Minh's Chow Fon
I happened to turn around
And when I look I see my Chow Fon's gone.

I got the paranoia blues
From knockin' round New York City
Where they'll roll you for a nickel
And stick you for the extra dime.

Any way you choose,
You're bound to lose in New York City.
Oh I just got out in a nick of time
yeah, I just got out in a nick of time.

Paul Simon, "Paranoia Blues"

30 posted on 09/07/2007 1:57:53 PM PDT by Erasmus (My simplifying explanation had the disconcerting side effect of making the subject incomprehensible.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Read Flew's Hume's Philosophy of Belief back in the early '70s in graduate school. Useful book, obviously bright guy. This new book might be interesting.
31 posted on 09/07/2007 2:00:50 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: SirLinksalot

I think he is a deist of some sort though.


32 posted on 09/07/2007 2:06:48 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: SirLinksalot

Be interestiing to know what his former fans think of him now. Considering his age (81) they probably think his change of views are the result of senility.


33 posted on 09/07/2007 2:08:45 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: HerrBlucher
I read a book about 10 or so years ago called "God the Evidence: Reconciliation of Faith and Reason in a Postsecular World" by a Patrick Glynn.

From the editorial review on Amazon:

Like Mr. Buckley, Patrick Glynn is a Christian who has written a book about his faith. But his is a very different journey-from faith to agnosticism and finally back to faith again. As he puts it: "This book had its origins in a spiritual reawakening-or to put the situation somewhat less philosophical atheist or agnostic, I finally realized that there was in fact a God."

Mr. Glynn, the product of a secular Harvard education roughly 25 years after Mr. Buckley was at Yale, is a former arms-controller and now a professor at George Washington University. In "God: The Evidence" he sets out in layman's language the scientific evidence for the existence of God. This is a monumental and ultimately impossible task-no one can reason his way to faith-but Mr. Glynn's review of the scientific literature is compelling.

His thesis is that the scientific discoveries of the past 25 years, especially in the physical sciences, have refuted the idea of a "random universe"-the modern idea that human life was a chance event-in favor of the "anthromorphic principle": the idea that there is an intelligent guiding hand at work. The phrase "anthromorphic principle" was coined by Brandon Carter, a Cambridge University physicist and cosmologist, at a seminal 1973 lecture in Krakow, Poland, where the world's greatest scientific thinkers had gathered to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the birth of Copernicus. He argued that the long list of mysterious coincidences inexplicable to students of the origins of the universe share one common denominator: All were necessary for the creation of human life, thus implying a creation by design.

Carter was by no means alone in these God-friendly views. His lecture was inspired by ideas that were just then beginning to percolate in scientific circles and that took off afterward. Mr. Glynn summarizes a host of these ideas, among them those of astronomer Fred Hoyle, progenitor of the "big bang," who once said: "An explosion in a junkyard does not lead to sundry bits of metal being assembled into a useful working machine."

Mr. Glynn devotes a chapter to the science of psychology, reviewing studies that show a correlation between religious belief and mental health-in contrast to Freud's view of religion as a childish illusion in need of correction. Elsewhere, he looks at the growing body of literature on near-death experience, which he believes offer evidence of an afterlife.

Underlying Mr. Glynn's analyses is one crucial point, which is that Western intellectual life is undergoing a huge shift: It is finding room for God. Until very recently the history of modern scientific thought-Galileo, Darwin, Freud-pointed away from religion toward a secular world view. Now, the "God hypothesis" is gaining ground; and for the first time since the heretic Galileo appeared before the Inquisition, science and faith aren't on a collision course.

End review. I found the book fascinating, although some of the physics parts were beyond what little knowledge I have in that subject.

34 posted on 09/07/2007 2:16:08 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (Vote for the person at the primaries; vote for the party at the election.)
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To: SirLinksalot

So basically, this guy thinks that every musing that crosses his mind needs to be shared with the world, eh? Doesn’t sound like he’s changed in essentials, simply going from “You should listen to why I don’t believe” to “You should listen to why I do.”


35 posted on 09/07/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: SirLinksalot

The dollar turned from both sides.


36 posted on 09/07/2007 2:27:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SirLinksalot

btt


37 posted on 09/07/2007 2:41:42 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: SirLinksalot

I had a room mate back in the early 90’s who was a devout atheist. There was never any chance of me changing his mind.

When I found out he was selling several pounds of pot each month I immediately moved out. One month later the house was stormed early in the morning during a countywide raid 2 days before Christmas.

He spent it in jail and had an epiphany of some sorts and seeds others had planted took root and he became a professing born again Christian and is still to this day.

As for this author, I hope he’s had his original books pulled from all shelves.


38 posted on 09/07/2007 2:52:52 PM PDT by diverteach
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To: SirLinksalot

similar thing happened to this gentleman...

39 posted on 09/07/2007 4:00:15 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: SirLinksalot
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I wonder if Inspector Dreyfus' clone Hitchens will be the next to come to his senses?

40 posted on 09/07/2007 4:17:28 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Freedom of Speech is for everyone, not just liberals.)
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To: SirLinksalot
"There Is a God" will finally put this debate to rest.

No, it won't.

41 posted on 09/07/2007 5:02:50 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: dragonblustar

This link (sorry it’s Huffington) has the best “can’t miss” pictures. Totally hilarious.

Christopher Hitchens Gets a Really Extreme Makeover

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/06/vanity-fair-is-a_n_63263.html

“Hitchens sums up his life of scotch and cigarettes.

I need the junky energy that scotch can provide, and the intense short-term concentration that nicotine can help supply. To be crouched over a book or a keyboard, with these conditions of mingled reverie and alertness, is my highest happiness.”

‘Nuff said, lol.


42 posted on 09/07/2007 7:36:05 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary has given Bill a new title: Chief Flying Monkey)
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To: js1138

“And your point is what?”

It not MY point, it was Flew’s.


43 posted on 09/07/2007 9:01:52 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: SirLinksalot
You wonder if it is all “life is great if you don’t weaken” which means you don’t have to account or devise reasons or non reasons for anything, if you so chose. Flew did what he did, argued what he argued at an early age because life was great... and now it is as if the argument, his argument, argues against Flew: God doesn’t exist says the argument and now Flew almost doesn’t exist, says the argument. If you are young you can ignore this — and should — but when you are old it is hard, especially with the added weight of tradition, the weight of C. S. Lewis and Evelyn Waugh -- for example, Lord Marchmain’s relapse in Brideshead Revisited can influence ones identity. Is Flew now giving us a happy ending? These philosophers with literary ties! Does this convince the argument, his argument that he will shortly not exist, to be kind with him? Does this buy him time? How strong is he?
44 posted on 09/07/2007 10:54:48 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Greg F

I second that prayer. Holy Spirit, do your work.


45 posted on 09/07/2007 11:29:46 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: khnyny

Oh man. Hitchens in the shower was enough to beg for blindness.

I have a brother who is athiest and sometimes I wish he’d wake up and start using his brain instead of quoteing left wing liberal talking points.


46 posted on 09/08/2007 8:42:28 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Freedom of Speech is for everyone, not just liberals.)
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To: js1138
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock..."

Mr Flew is like a man who, upon hearing the knock of the Lord, finally comes to believe in the existence of doors! But if he does not get up and answer it he might as well have been deaf!
47 posted on 09/08/2007 8:56:34 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: dragonblustar

Antony Flew today




48 posted on 09/08/2007 10:55:14 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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I love it when atheists backslide! This might make for an interesting side-by-side reading with Richard Dawkins' and Christopher Hitchens' works.

Interestingly, I was reading Chapter 5 "The Fall of Man" of The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis (another backsliding atheist), where he writes about how the Fall must or may have come about if evolution is true. More on that here if anyone is interested.
49 posted on 09/09/2007 10:34:05 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: A_perfect_lady

My question is why not? I doubt that any atheist will be convinced by his conversion to belief any more than any believer would be convinced not to believe if the Pope came out claiming Jesus was really just a crackpot and all of Christianity is bunk. Those that are convinced by such trivial things only prove they never spent any time analyzing things for themselves and are just empty headed followers. I have never believed anything because of popular man or woman professed it. Truth is not a popularity contest.


50 posted on 09/09/2007 11:14:00 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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