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Diocese Settles Abuse Claims for $198M(San Diego)
newsmax.com ^ | September 7, 2007 | staff

Posted on 09/07/2007 9:41:43 PM PDT by kellynla

SAN DIEGO -- The Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego said Friday it has agreed to pay $198.1 million to settle 144 claims of sexual abuse by clergy, the second-largest payment by a diocese. The agreement caps more than four years of negotiations in state and federal courts.

Earlier this year, the diocese abruptly filed for bankruptcy protection just hours before trial was scheduled to begin on 42 lawsuits alleging sexual abuse. Bankruptcy could shield the diocese's assets, but a judge recently threatened to throw out the bankruptcy case if church officials didn't reach an agreement with the plaintiffs.

The San Diego diocese initially offered about $95 million to settle the claims. The victims were seeking about $200 million.

"The diocese has always been committed to resolving this litigation in a way that fairly compensates these victims of abuse and would still preserve the ongoing ministries and programs of the church," Bishop Robert Brom said in a press release Friday.

"We pray that this settlement will bring some closure and healing to the years of suffering experienced by these victims."

In the largest payment yet in the scandal, the Los Angeles Archdiocese settled 508 cases for $660 million in July, two days before jury selection was scheduled to begin in the first of 15 trials involving 172 abuse claimants there.

The Diocese of Orange agreed in 2004 to settle 90 claims for $100 million after a judge promised to set trial dates and begin the discovery process if settlement talks collapsed. Bishop Tod D. Brown later said he couldn't risk a trial in a state where a jury once awarded $30 million to two people who claimed they were sexually abused by clergy.

The Diocese of San Diego, with nearly 1 million Catholics and holdings throughout San Diego County, is by far the largest and wealthiest of the five U.S. dioceses to have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection under the shadow of civil claims over sexual abuse.

Dioceses in Spokane, Wash., Portland, Ore., and Tucson, Ariz., have already emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. The Davenport, Iowa, diocese, which faces claims from more than 150 people, is still in proceedings.

Sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests has cost the U.S. church at least $2.3 billion since 1950.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California
KEYWORDS: abusivepriests; catholicchurch; homosexualpriests; homosexuals; lawsuit; perverts; priests; sandiego
"Sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests has cost the U.S. church at least $2.3 billion since 1950."

Whatever the vetting process was for the priesthood; it wasn't working.

1 posted on 09/07/2007 9:41:47 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: Salvation; NYer

ping


2 posted on 09/07/2007 9:42:18 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

I would think the warning from Jesus about harming children would work.


3 posted on 09/07/2007 9:48:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: kellynla

So, a church that forces all it’s preachers into a life of poverty has 198 mill to cover its lawsuits … but millions go hungry.


4 posted on 09/07/2007 9:56:27 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: kellynla

Some giant millstones waiting for the necks of those priests, eh?

With all these multi-hundreds of million dollars settlements, when does the entire church go bankrupt?


5 posted on 09/07/2007 9:59:27 PM PDT by XR7
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To: kellynla
This stuff just doesn’t seem to stop.

What is it about being Catholic, gay, and in a position of power that means you can molest children?

6 posted on 09/07/2007 10:07:53 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Moonman62

Yea, well all I can say is that if any of these POS had ever touched a kid in my Irish Catholic neighborhood when I was growing up; the only question we would want answered from the Church is “where do you want the body?”

I heard John Walsh from “America’s Most Wanted” on Glenn Beck’s program say tonight
“the Justice Department said there`s 690,000 convicted sex offenders in the United States. Those are the convicted ones; 100,000 of them are in noncompliance.”

Where do we put them all...


7 posted on 09/07/2007 10:11:26 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Sell off the unnecessary Churches, get rid of the sodomite creeps, and go back to preaching the word.

These MFers are getting hit where it counts. Thankfully, the GOOD people inside of the Church will stand up and chase the politicians and pederasts out.

8 posted on 09/07/2007 10:13:11 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: doc1019
“So, a church that forces all it’s preachers into a life of poverty has 198 mill to cover its lawsuits but millions go hungry.”

Nice try. The “preachers” could be all the members of the church, the Holy representatives ordained to administer the sacraments the are called Priests.

The Catholic church is one of the (if not the largest) agencies for NON DENOMONATIONAL sponsors of adoption in the world. Their food, education, and literacy projects are also some of the largest (by DOLLAR volume) in the world.

Yes the U.S. branch of the Catholic Church has many problems related to their selection and training of priests... and most of that comes from homosexuals getting into the positions of power in the U.S. Catholic Seminaries.

Several years ago there were many great articles posted on that subject on FR. A lot of the problems with homosexuals are being dealt with by forced retirement or removal from positions of public contact.

9 posted on 09/07/2007 10:19:04 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I think you malign Catholics in your statement. Just because some Catholic priests made some mistakes does not mean that the entire Catholic Church is wrong.

How about teachers who abuse children? Much worse there than among clergy. Just because some teachers abuse children does not mean that all teachers are evil.

You can say the say about any profession. So please don’t generalize.


10 posted on 09/07/2007 10:23:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: XR7

“when does the entire church go bankrupt?”

I think the Catholic Church has a lot of money and valuables and the money has been earning a lot of interest for centuries.

The Church would probably not go bankrupt, but the individual parish might diocese might suffer some tough times.


11 posted on 09/07/2007 10:23:53 PM PDT by JSteff (Reality= understanding you are not nearly important enough for the government to tap your phone.)
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To: doc1019
“So, a church that forces all it’s preachers into a life of poverty has 198 mill to cover its lawsuits but millions go hungry.”



"preachers?" they're called priests...and no one is “forced” into a life of poverty and the Catholic Church which has been supported financially by good practicing Catholics like me for more than 2000 years has been the most benevolent religion in the history of the world. BTW, what anti-Catholic group do you belong to?

I suggest you educate yourself about the history of the Catholic Church before you come on one of my threads and “break wind.” In the meantime, keep your bigoted remarks to yourself and let people think you a fool than post them and remove all doubt.

The IQ level drops by the minute ‘round here

12 posted on 09/07/2007 10:25:59 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: JSteff
**Several years ago there were many great articles posted on that subject on FR. A lot of the problems with homosexuals are being dealt with by forced retirement or removal from positions of public contact.**

Glad you mentioned it.

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13 posted on 09/07/2007 10:26:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, we still continue to see these incredible settlements for what appears to have been (perhaps “is now”) a huge number of problem priests, primarily homosexual in their inclinations.

I don’t see this type of thing regularly happening elsewhere.

My generalization was specific to the homosexuals who seem to have leadership authority to abuse it on kids to the extent that we see dozens of huge settlements. I don’t understand what brings so many homosexuals to the Catholic faith and I don’t understand how these homosexuals get in such positions of power, when the vetting process seems to be many years.

Can you give a good explanation?


14 posted on 09/07/2007 10:32:48 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: kellynla

Just bulldoze a big trench and dump their sorry a$$e$ in it


15 posted on 09/07/2007 10:36:26 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: Salvation

I think you malign Catholics in your statement. Just because some Catholic priests made some mistakes does not mean that the entire Catholic Church is wrong.

The so-called priest maligned themselves. The big dogs of Catholic leadership facilitated the whole mess. Now they are paying the price in credibility and cash. Catholic members are expected to contribute their kids and money to keep the creeps in power. Yes, the entire Catholic church is wrong.


16 posted on 09/07/2007 10:45:02 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: kellynla

Meanwhile Ehel; Uncle Sam pushes Queerdom where ever it can. Don’t look Ethel.


17 posted on 09/07/2007 10:46:42 PM PDT by Waco
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To: JSteff

About the wealth of the American Church, it is probably less than that of the collective wealth of the congregations of the Southern Baptist Convention and has many more social obligations. My guess is that the Mormons are probably the wealthiest faith community in the United States.


18 posted on 09/07/2007 10:52:34 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: hdstmf

That is not happening. You are speaking in generalities. Yes, there were some unethical bishops. But not all of them were doing this.

The entire church is not evil, although a lot of non-Catholics would like to believe that.

As I said above there is much more sexual abuse percentage wise in the public schools. Yet not all the schools are bad.

Likewise, you cannot make a blanket statement that all priests and all bishops and all in the Catholic church (or any other church — becuase sexual abuse goes on there, too.) are evil.

The reason the media has this out there is to discredit the Catholic Church. Do you see the articles about the Protestant sex abusers? No, but they are there. Not all ministers are bad just because a few have made mistakes.

Can you see the picture clearly or might there be a log in your eye?


19 posted on 09/07/2007 10:54:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ConservativeMind

Congratulations! You are behaving like Democrats.

I am Catholic. I have never known any Priest that has assaulted a child and I am not aware of any child who has been assaulted. Because a few Catholic Priests do awful things, Freepers are now going to trash the entire religion.

I have heard of other religions having Priests/Ministers behaving badly. Yet, only Catholics make the headlines. I am stunned that Freepers are making personal attacks against the Church.

Over and out. This has become a site for bigots instead of open-minded people.


20 posted on 09/07/2007 11:01:43 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: ConservativeMind

** I don’t understand what brings so many homosexuals to the Catholic faith and I don’t understand how these homosexuals get in such positions of power, when the vetting process seems to be many years.

Can you give a good explanation?**

Yes, I can explain it. Some Cardinals/Bishops in power appointed their buddies as fellow bishops, etc. even though they were undeserving. As in any “kiss-up” situation, it all comes back to bite you in the behind.

It happened in the Catholic Church, but in the links I provided, the seminaries have been cleaned up and bishops that were in this lot are being replaced by orthodox bishops by Pope Benedict. At least thank him for that.

As to why you hear this about the Catholic Church and not the other churches. Who does the media hate the most? (Just like it hates the right.)

The media can’t stand the Catholic Church, because the Catholic Church has always stood for pro-life and against contraception and abortion, euthanasia and stem-cell research.

The Catholic Church has always stood against homosexuality and for sacramental and committed marriage, but the media wants their own leftist point of view for same sex xmarriages heard. That can’t happen as long as the Catholic Church keeps supporting family values and marriage between a man and a woman.

Hopefully I have touched on part of an answer for you.

PS. I’ll try to find a thread about the marriage issue and Theology of the Body written by Pope John Paul II which points out the sacredness of Holy Matrimony.


21 posted on 09/07/2007 11:03:23 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: doc1019
So, a church that forces all it’s preachers into a life of poverty has 198 mill to cover its lawsuits … but millions go hungry.

They'll make the 198 million back from the illegals the church is forcing down our throats. The taxpayers, not the church, will provide social services for the illegals and the church will get 10% from them.

22 posted on 09/07/2007 11:04:49 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: kellynla

You cannot defend the Roman catholic church as it has no excuse for not cleaning itself up after all these years.


23 posted on 09/07/2007 11:07:52 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (If you see a phrase used 400,000 times on FR, jump right in and use it too.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Teaching the Theology of the Body

For your information:

Christopher West's Theology of the Body Webiste

Books, tapes, CDs, DVDs, etc.

From book by the same name by Pope John Paul II.

24 posted on 09/07/2007 11:08:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ConservativeMind
Man, though made of body and soul, is a unity. Through his very bodily condition he sums up in himself the elements of the material world. Through him they are thus brought to their highest perfection and can raise their voice in praise freely given to the Creator. For this reason man may not despise his bodily life. Rather he is obliged to regard his body as good and to hold it in honour since God has created it and will raise it up on the last day.

-- Gaudium et spes


25 posted on 09/07/2007 11:15:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: jwh_Denver

“You cannot defend the Roman catholic church as it has no excuse for not cleaning itself up after all these years.”

you’re another ignorant ass who doesn’t know the facts.


26 posted on 09/07/2007 11:29:06 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: doc1019
In the midst of your posted ignorance you sound like Judas whining about the cost of oil.

"For the poor you have always with you: but me you have not always." Matthew 26:11

28 posted on 09/08/2007 6:13:43 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: ConservativeMind
What is it about being Catholic, gay, and in a position of power that means you can molest children?

Wonder if you've ever asked the same question about these protestants or public school employees. Probably not.

29 posted on 09/08/2007 6:17:48 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Razz Barry

The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens don’t even go to Mass let alone contribute to the collection.


30 posted on 09/08/2007 6:22:00 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham; whitedog57; Salvation
My problem is not that people in power can fall. It is that it seems a huge preponderance of the data in virtually all of these cases is that it is being caused by homosexuals, believed to only make up 1% to 3% of the entire population.

I, consequently, expect 97%+ of this type of problem to be from heterosexuals. In the Catholic church, it’s REVERSED! This is what leaves me incredulous.

31 posted on 09/08/2007 7:14:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

You obviously haven’t spent much time analyzing the data and it sounds as if you’re trying to elevate and/or make excuses/be an apologist for heterosexual molestation in comparison to homosexual molestation. The fact is that all forms of molestation are serious sins and crimes regardless of the orientation and need to be absolutely condemned.


32 posted on 09/08/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: kellynla
most benevolent religion in history

The inquisition comes to mind.

By the way … Catholicism is not a religion, Christianity is a religion, the Catholic Church is denomination of Christianity.

Anyone who preaches the gospel of Jesus Christ is a "preacher" of the word regardless any other title.

To be a priest in the Catholic Church you must agree to a life of poverty … in other words, to be a priest you are forced into a life of poverty.

before you come on one of my threads and "break wind."

So, I guess I'm talking to the owner of this site?

To quote a line from a great Monty Python movie ... I fart in your general direction.

As long as I don't break the rules of conduct on this site, I have the right to enter any thread I want to and voice my opinion or ask any question that might emanate from my "low IQ" mind. This was not a caucus thread so it was open to anyone.

Have a great day in our Lord.
33 posted on 09/08/2007 8:17:59 AM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: kellynla

The fact is this is just one lawsuit I’ve read out of dozens that the Roman catholic church has lost big bucks on. It still keeps on. Your church has not done enough to squelch the corruption inside it.

Since you’re so touchy about your church why do you post these articles and then get really defensive about it?


34 posted on 09/08/2007 4:18:38 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (If you see a phrase used 400,000 times on FR, jump right in and use it too.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; ConservativeMind
You obviously haven’t spent much time analyzing the data and it sounds as if you’re trying to elevate and/or make excuses/be an apologist for heterosexual molestation in comparison to homosexual molestation. The fact is that all forms of molestation are serious sins and crimes regardless of the orientation and need to be absolutely condemned.

Seems this argument could be dealt with once-and-for-all if you would be kind enough to post whatever information you have regarding any multi-million dollar judgments against the Catholic church for heterosexual molestation.

35 posted on 09/09/2007 1:29:48 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Salvation

Thank you.


36 posted on 09/09/2007 8:44:02 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Salvation

Well said.


37 posted on 09/09/2007 8:44:25 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens don’t even go to Mass let alone contribute to the collection.

You maybe right. All I know is that to accommodate the illegals it helped bring here, to Dalton, Georgia, the church had to build a building at least four times larger then the old one.

38 posted on 09/10/2007 10:34:06 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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