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Fred, Did We Really Know You? (Is Fred The Insiders, Insider?)
Washington Post ^ | 8 September 2007 | Colbert I king

Posted on 09/08/2007 5:05:33 AM PDT by shrinkermd

Far be it from me to start trouble, but former Tennessee Republican senator Fred Thompson, the presidential candidate who portrays himself as a conservative outsider capable of reforming Washington, is playing down his kinship with this town. Thompson may campaign as a steadfast son of the South, but he is really one of us.

In fact, no other White House hopeful, Republican or Democrat, can come close to matching Thompson's insider credentials. He alone among the contenders has managed to reach the pinnacle of Washington influence: the presidency of the Federal City Council, a powerful, behind-the-scenes group comprising a who's who of this city's top business, professional and civic leaders. The Federal City Council is synonymous with the Washington establishment, and Thompson was its chosen leader from 2003 to 2005.

The list of former council presidents reads like a roster of the city's famous heavy hitters. Thompson succeeded former Senate majority leader Bob Dole. Former House speaker Tom Foley preceded Dole...

...Which gets us to Thompson's lasting, and most tangible, contribution to our nation's capital: the Department of Homeland Security.

Thompson should raise his hand if that mammoth federal institution, home to more than 200,000 workers and 22 agencies -- the largest bureaucratic merger since the creation of Defense Department in 1947 -- is ever asked, "Who's your daddy?" Or at least he should admit to having had something to do with its birth.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson; insiders; washingtondc
I guess he is a conservative with a small "c." I remain puzzled as to why he has so much trouble raising money. He has all the insider connections and a proven track record of enlarging government. One would think the "somebodies" would cough up the cash.
1 posted on 09/08/2007 5:05:41 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
FRED IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT HILLARY, PERIOD!

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

2 posted on 09/08/2007 5:08:11 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: shrinkermd
Just one of the numerous hit pieces on the way from the lame stream media.
3 posted on 09/08/2007 5:09:51 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: shrinkermd
In fact, no other White House hopeful, Republican or Democrat, can come close to matching Thompson's insider credentials.

Are you sure this wasn't from The Onion or Scrapleface? Oh wait, the WaPo...just as credible.

4 posted on 09/08/2007 5:11:33 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: shrinkermd
Oh, I forgot to add:
Grassfire.org; "Fred Thompson Increases Lead Among Conservatives"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1892995/posts

5 posted on 09/08/2007 5:11:42 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: shrinkermd
In fact, no other White House hopeful, Republican or Democrat, can come close to matching Thompson's insider credentials.

I must not understand what 'insider credentials' means because if Fred Thompson has more than Hillary Clinton, then I'm Catherine Zeta Jones. As if....

7 posted on 09/08/2007 5:13:13 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: shrinkermd
One would think the "somebodies" would cough up the cash.

He just announced two days ago. Just another hit piece by the laimstreamers.......

8 posted on 09/08/2007 5:22:22 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: shrinkermd
Fear of Fred there is out there, yes.
Fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hate leads to suffering.
9 posted on 09/08/2007 5:45:00 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: shrinkermd

Fred is muy manly!


10 posted on 09/08/2007 5:48:18 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: shrinkermd
a conservative with a small "c."

Compassionate conservatism advocated by a certain candidate in 2000 turned out to bite many capital-C Conservatives in the rear especially during that certain candidate's second term.

Every candidate, this time, needs to be scrutinized to the fullest to separate the wheat from the chafe.
11 posted on 09/08/2007 5:51:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Poser

Let me get this right.

?Quien es mas macho?
Es cierto. Fred Thompson es mas macho.


12 posted on 09/08/2007 5:56:12 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: shrinkermd

WaPO—spawner of Politico. Dreck, both.


13 posted on 09/08/2007 6:30:40 AM PDT by Clara Lou (I support FDT!)
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To: shrinkermd

When do the media “revelations” start that somebody looking just like Fred has been cruising gay bars in South Beach?


14 posted on 09/08/2007 6:33:22 AM PDT by Gritty (I think we need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party-Duncan Hunter, 06/05/07)
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To: shrinkermd

If the Washington Post has its blades out for Fred, that’s an indication that they’re worries


15 posted on 09/08/2007 6:36:16 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: b4its2late

There are dark forces at work in the Thompson campaign.

None in the Hillary campaign, of course.


16 posted on 09/08/2007 6:45:37 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: W04Man

Actually, if Rudy can win the nomination, I think he has a much better chance of beating Hillary than Fred.


17 posted on 09/08/2007 8:14:11 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: shrinkermd

Oh, no, Fred supported one of the actual Constitutional duties of government, protecting the country.


18 posted on 09/08/2007 8:36:38 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: shrinkermd
There is only one reason why you think he has trouble raising money, and that is because the MSM told you his fund raising was “lackluster”. The only reason they told you that is because they fell slightly short of 5 million dollars in the few months of the “testing the waters” fund raising.

The money he did raise was hardly small potatoes. In fact he also pulled 300K on the day he announced. Fred is not having the money trouble you think he is having.

19 posted on 09/08/2007 8:57:40 AM PDT by chaos_5 (Fred and Hunter 08)
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To: chaos_5

Nope, I divided 300,000 by 2000 and came up with 150. Assuming a little less than the maximum for a married couple one comes up with this figure. Not many people for someone claiming to be wanted and needed by the party.

Of course, it could have been only $10. That would be 30,000. Again, even not many small donors after months of waiting for him to finally declare.

I hope he does better, but there is something wrong.


20 posted on 09/08/2007 9:59:13 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
The whole “outsider” angle is going to cause him more trouble than it is worth.
21 posted on 09/08/2007 10:10:43 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: Jack Black

RUDY can’t rally the BASE!


22 posted on 09/08/2007 10:12:36 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: chaos_5
Law & Order on the Campaign Trail


23 posted on 09/08/2007 10:15:42 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: shrinkermd
"The Thompson team said his Web site had generated $300,000 in contributions in the hours since he launched his campaign and registered more than 13,000 "Friends of Fred."

The $300,000 is in less than a day only on the website, not total campaign contributions. Websites never generate more than a small fraction of total campaign contributions.

The truth will rarely be found in MSM reports.

24 posted on 09/08/2007 10:20:11 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: chaos_5
they fell slightly short of 5 million dollars in the few months of the “testing the waters” fund raising. The money he did raise was hardly small potatoes. In fact he also pulled 300K on the day he announced.

What you describe IS money trouble. He'll never catch up with the tens of millions Mrs. Clinton has tucked away to buy TV commercials and staff and and and.....

25 posted on 09/08/2007 10:26:35 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: shrinkermd
The question I want to SHOUTup to him:

Hey, Fred!

Are you for or AGAINST

ONE-WORLD-GOVERNMENT???

26 posted on 09/08/2007 10:32:49 AM PDT by bannie
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To: Veto!

“Few months?” Since early in March he began to indicate interest and desire to run. That is 6 months. Not a good example of a “decisive leader.”

By the way, why did it take 6 months to decide?


27 posted on 09/08/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
He alone among the contenders has managed to reach the pinnacle of Washington influence: the presidency of the Federal City Council, a powerful, behind-the-scenes group comprising a who's who of this city's top business, professional and civic leaders.

In other words, you're saying Fred Thompson has executive experience?

28 posted on 09/08/2007 1:24:30 PM PDT by Styria
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To: shrinkermd

Why exactly was a decision immediately necessary? I think you’ll find that good leaders are good at making decisions after gathering the necessary information as opposed to pure optimism or dreams.

Good leaders make decisions based on benefits vrs costs. Benefits of deciding early? Marginalization along with “the rest” of the candidates. Benifits of waiting? More time to plan, strategized, free advertizing, etc.

Finally, I think he was being very decisive. Seems to me that he decided to let the other candidates battle it out and wear each other down, while he enjoyed overwhelmingly positive press. Now he can jump in ahead of everyone else.

Seems like good leadership to me.


29 posted on 09/08/2007 2:52:09 PM PDT by villagerjoel (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: shrinkermd
I remain puzzled as to why he has so much trouble raising money.

Well, since he's only been able to start raising serious money in the last 48 hours, the lack of millions isn't a big worry for me. In fact, I think I read he collected donations of over $300K in the first 24 hrs. just from the Internet. Doesn't sound too shabby to me.

30 posted on 09/08/2007 3:23:47 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Politicalmom
Oh, no, Fred supported one of the actual Constitutional duties of government, protecting the country.

Now you know why the Old Grey Lady and the Washington Compost don't like him.

31 posted on 09/08/2007 3:25:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Veto!
He'll never catch up with the tens of millions Mrs. Clinton has tucked away to buy TV commercials and staff and and and.....

I don't think he'll have any problems with raising money.

32 posted on 09/08/2007 3:27:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Styria

No, I am saying with his insider resume’, raising money should be easy. He actually has been collecting money for six months not 48 hours.

Perhaps his problem is the same as McCain’s—they both strongly supported campaign finance reform. Now they both have trouble raising money. It seems those who usually donate are hesitant to commit funds to either McCain or FT.


33 posted on 09/08/2007 4:18:30 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: SuziQ

See #20. Don’t forget he has been raising money since early or mid March. He anticipated 5 million but got 3 million and so forth. Also see my previous post. I think he has trouble with donors who do not appreciate Campaign Finance Reform. (He and McCain pushed it through)


34 posted on 09/08/2007 4:21:41 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
He anticipated 5 million but got 3 million and so forth.

You know, the chattering classes kept saying this, but I don't remember Fred or anyone from his staff actually saying it. He seemed to have had plenty of money to do his 'testing the waters', so if he 'only' raised 3.5 million, I'd say it was enough.

As far as Campaign Finance Reform is concerned, it doesn't affect donors who are giving individual amounts, except to the point that the legislation actually RAISED individual limits. Fred had a point to make with CFR. He was tired of the corruption he was seeing with groups giving large amounts of money directly to the candidates, because this was separating the individual voters from the situation, and increasing the skepticism folks had for the election process.

35 posted on 09/08/2007 5:09:36 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: shrinkermd

how’s Fred’s health?


36 posted on 09/08/2007 5:11:41 PM PDT by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: petercooper

I don’t know. Neither does anyone else without his raw, personal health data and records.


37 posted on 09/08/2007 5:15:05 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: tsmith130

LOL....dont ya know the Dems are allowed to be insiders?
I have to laugh at the things they are trying to make out to be bad about Fred. If he didnt know all those people or do all those things they would be saying he was an inexperienced actor... but since that wont work...lets try...ooooooooooooooo
hes an insider...oh the horror....gasps.


38 posted on 09/08/2007 5:17:38 PM PDT by donnab
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To: shrinkermd
I hope he does better

Do you? Really?

39 posted on 09/08/2007 5:37:07 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: W04Man

That’s an appealing picture of the two cops with Fred. Nice photo.


40 posted on 09/08/2007 8:05:08 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: popdonnelly

Yes, good point. LOL


41 posted on 09/09/2007 4:22:12 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: shrinkermd
By the way, why did it take 6 months to decide?

That's the #1 question to ask.

Health problems?
Possible old girlfriend scandals to negotiate?
Lobbyist records to lose?
Media enemies to cajole?
Wife's past missteps to cover?

I don't know what his A game looks like, but imo he didn't inspire confidence on Leno.

Who else do we have?

42 posted on 09/09/2007 11:14:02 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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