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Experts warn of attack clues in Bin Laden video
Agence France-Presse ^ | September 8, 2007 | AFP

Posted on 09/08/2007 11:48:23 AM PDT by MaestroLC

WASHINGTON - Intelligence experts scouring the latest video of Osama bin Laden for clues warned on Saturday that his message offers hints that Al-Qaeda is planning another attack on US interests.

In his first video appearance in three years, the elusive Al-Qaeda chief mocks the United States as "weak" and vows to escalate fighting in Iraq, all the while using language similar to the kind used ahead of other past attacks.

At times, bin Laden speaks directly to Americans, using plain language that "appears to be crafted in a way as to be understood by the average person on the street in Europe or in the US," said intelligence analyst Ben Venzke.

The latest video "contains phrases ... which serve as indicators that OBL's message is part of Al-Qaeda's efforts to fulfill its requirements to provide warning and a chance for the enemy to change its ways before executing an attack," Venzke said.

However, the message, delivered days ahead of the sixth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States in which 3,000 people were killed, gives no clues "to indicate when an attack ... would be attempted," he said.

The language, saying peace will befall "he who follows the guidance," mirrors that used in bin Laden's "European truce offer" of April 2004 in which he said: "Peace upon those who followed the right path."

The similarity in terms is important because the 2004 message appealing to Europeans to change their ways was the final message aimed specifically at Europeans before the July 2005 bombings in London which killed 52 people, said Venzke of the Virginia-based Intel Center.

In the video, bin Laden also discusses current events but issues no direct threats, and offers two ways of ending the Iraq war, according to a transcript released by the US-based SITE Intelligence Group which monitors Islamic militant websites.

"The first is from our side, and it is to continue to escalate the killing and fighting against you," he says.

The second is to do away with the US democratic system of government, which he says merely serves the interests of major corporations.

"Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security," he says, adding: Allah is our Guardian and helper, while you have no guardian or helper."

Bin Laden appears in the video with a trimmed beard that is apparently dyed black, hiding the streaks of gray seen in previous footage, and wears a beige cloak over a white robe.

According to Azzam Tamimi, head of the London-based Institute of Islamic Political Thought, the beard dye is a "sign of war."

The rigorous Salafi Islamic school to which bin Laden belongs "condones this dye only in preparation for war," he said.

A US intelligence official speaking on condition of anonymity said agencies believe the video is authentic and was produced as recently as August because of a reference to the 62nd anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima on August 6.

"I think people are pretty confident it is his voice," the official said.

Prior to this release, the last video message from bin Laden, who has a 25-million-dollar US bounty on his head, came in October 2004, while a CIA-authenticated audio clip was posted on the Internet in May 2006.

CIA Director Michael Hayden on Friday also warned that Al-Qaeda was planning new, large-scale attacks on US targets.

"Our analysts assess with high confidence that Al-Qaeda's central leadership is planning high impact plots against the American homeland," Hayden said.

In the rambling message, bin Laden mocks the United States for its troubles in Iraq and the effect of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

"Despite America being the greatest economic power and possessing the most powerful and up-to-date military arsenal as well ... 19 young men were able -- by the grace of Allah, the most high -- to change the direction of its compass," he said in a reference to the September 11 hijackers.

"America is weak despite its apparent strength," he says.

Believed to be hiding in the remote tribal areas along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border, bin Laden verbally attacks US President George W. Bush as well as the US Democratic Party, which he says has done little to halt the Iraq war.

Bush, in turn, used the video to support the US military presence in Iraq.

"If Al-Qaeda bothers to mention Iraq, it's because they want to achieve their objectives in Iraq, which is to drive attacks and develop a safe haven," Bush said.

Addressing the American people directly, bin Laden refers to domestic opposition to the Iraq war.

"The world is following your news in regards to your invasion of Iraq, for people have recently come to know that, after several years of tragedies of this war, the vast majority of you want it stopped."

He says the Democrats who now control the US Congress have failed to stop the war, and even "continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."

Bin Laden also refers to recent US headline stories, referring to "the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes."

"To conclude," he says, "I invite you to embrace Islam."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allahissatan; alqaedairaq; attack; binladen; clues; evilman; evilplan; experts; intelligence; iran; jihadinamerica; satanisallah; siteintelligencegrp; sixthanniversary; videotape; warn
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1 posted on 09/08/2007 11:48:26 AM PDT by MaestroLC
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To: nw_arizona_granny

ping


2 posted on 09/08/2007 11:54:19 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (The Pigs are about to take over the barnyard!)
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To: MaestroLC
Bin Laden also refers to recent US headline stories, referring to "the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes."

Bin Laden subscribes to the New York Times?

3 posted on 09/08/2007 11:54:21 AM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: MaestroLC
"To conclude," he says, "I invite you to embrace Islam."

Which is the biggest clue of all.

4 posted on 09/08/2007 11:56:07 AM PDT by carton253 (And if that time does come, then draw your swords and throw away the scabbards.)
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To: MaestroLC
...bin Laden verbally attacks US President George W. Bush as well as the US Democratic Party, which he says has done little to halt the Iraq war.

LOL - chiding his Democrat friends for their failure at getting a surrender bill through. That's rich.

I'm not sure that the guy on the video is bin Laden.

5 posted on 09/08/2007 11:58:16 AM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Bin Laden subscribes to the New York Times?

Whaddya mean reads? He does more than that!

6 posted on 09/08/2007 11:58:21 AM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: All
The video appeared at the same time the deadline given by al-Baghdadi to the Iranians to leave Iraq expired. The dyed beard is symbolic of the flag of the Islamic State of Iraq. (Black Islam) - Terror ops against Iran to commence shortly.

This is the chatter on the al-Queda in Iraq forums.

7 posted on 09/08/2007 12:02:36 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

Is the New York Times printed in Arabic?

If he subscribes maybe intelligence should track him down via his delivery address. /sarc.

Old Bin Laden needs to lay off of that hubbly bubbly after dinner bong.


8 posted on 09/08/2007 12:02:43 PM PDT by Global2010 ( Romney/Hunter 08)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

major corporations.


9 posted on 09/08/2007 12:03:35 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: harwood

bttt


10 posted on 09/08/2007 12:06:03 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Allegra

Check out some of the other threads on this - a Freeper tracked down a video made by Binnie in 2004 and put stills from the 2004 video and this supposedly new one side by side: they’re identical. It’s not just that Binnie is wearing the same outfit, his beard is black, etc., in the 2004 video - but that the stills are simply identical in every respect. I’ll try to find the post.


11 posted on 09/08/2007 12:10:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: LibFreeOrDie

The terrorists could just about be members of the NYT’s editorial staff.


12 posted on 09/08/2007 12:11:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: MaestroLC

I’m not an “expert” but I’d be willing to bet a dollar to a donut that they wouldn’t dare attack before the November 2008 elections. They want their friends down at the DNC to take total control of the House and Senate and they also want Slick Willie’s wife in the Oval Office. That would really help simplify things for them.


13 posted on 09/08/2007 12:12:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRATS own failure and defeat. Success and victory really depresses them.)
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To: MaestroLC
"Bin Laden also refers to recent US headline stories, referring to "the burden of interest-related debts, insane taxes and real estate mortgages; global warming and its woes." "

It's offical. BL is a commie.

14 posted on 09/08/2007 12:12:25 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: BenLurkin
The terrorists could just about be members of the NYT’s editorial staff.

And of the DNC's platform committee! I like the way the Dems got b-slapped.

15 posted on 09/08/2007 12:14:43 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: MaestroLC; All
Bin Laden: "America is weak despite its apparent strength,"

Translation: Ru Paul and the DemoncRats running for the U.S. presidency will weakens the U.S. and help our cause.

16 posted on 09/08/2007 12:16:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: MaestroLC

They invite you to convert to their death cult. If you don’t, your head will be in one room and your body in another. What “religion of peace”?


17 posted on 09/08/2007 12:18:22 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Allegra

Here we go: two threads on the authenticity of Binnie.

This one shows the two clips I mentioned above:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1893082/posts

This is a discussion of the 2004 and 2007 videos and the general issue of the authenticity of either or both of them:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1892735/posts?q=1&;page=101


18 posted on 09/08/2007 12:18:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: MaestroLC
"Allah is our Guardian and helper, while you have no guardian or helper."

That statement is probably more true as to localities which have torn down the Ten Commandments from their public buildings than those communities which still revere God.

19 posted on 09/08/2007 12:19:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT
I know everyone laughs this off, but if you have read the koran, before you kill the infidel’s, you offer them a chance to convert to islam. This is what he did before 9/11, and this is what he is doing in this message. I personally would love to filet this mongrel like the dog that he is, but, if anything, he is predictable. I hope our security folk are able to stop whatever chaos this ass is perpetrating.
20 posted on 09/08/2007 12:19:47 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: MaestroLC
bin Laden's "European truce offer" of April 2004
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was the final message aimed specifically at Europeans before the July 2005 bombings in London

15 months warning? We better get worried, it's about to hit...

21 posted on 09/08/2007 12:25:22 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: livius

you have to know that there is an Arabic equivalence of Rich Little


22 posted on 09/08/2007 12:32:02 PM PDT by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process)
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To: livius
Thanks.

The military guys I work with and I were discussing this at the chow hall this evening as the news on TV in there showed clips from the video.

I'm going to show this to the guys tomorrow.

We all pretty much believe that OBL is dead.

25 posted on 09/08/2007 12:42:16 PM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: chicomyman
bin lardhead is DEAD. guy in the video aint binni. he ‘s resting comfortly(in pieces i mean) at tora bora, the gateway to virgin land.

I'm not arguing that point.

26 posted on 09/08/2007 12:44:06 PM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: MaestroLC
The rigorous Salafi Islamic school to which bin Laden belongs "condones this dye only in preparation for war,"

NEWSFLASH: The war's been on for years now, binny... Oh, wait... That's right, he hasn't been in it, has he? He's been hiding in a hole somewhere a thousand miles away. LOL, what a jerk***.

27 posted on 09/08/2007 12:46:37 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Earthdweller
It's offical. BL is a commie. Democrat activist
28 posted on 09/08/2007 12:50:38 PM PDT by listenhillary (millions crippled by the war on poverty....but we won't pull out)
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To: MaestroLC

“America is weak despite its apparent strength,” he says.

Isn’t that just like a liberal to get it ass backwards.

“America is strong despite it’s apparent weakness,” says
Tet68.

Go ahead foolish man, kill thousands more Americans, give us a bloody nose, then brother get ready cause our blood will be up and your tribe will decrease.


29 posted on 09/08/2007 12:52:25 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MaestroLC
...[The fool] says, adding: Allah is our Guardian and helper, while you have no guardian or helper."

This statement is so silly.

30 posted on 09/08/2007 12:53:14 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Allegra
Most of the video is frozen still frames of him and the voice sounds like it’s going through a garbled voice filter. Check out the two faces of binny...


31 posted on 09/08/2007 12:55:58 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: livius
The 2004 video is different. He is wearing similar clothing, but his beard is longer and grey.

On the left is an image from the 2004 video. 2007 on the right.

It is possible but unlikely that the new video is a heavily processed version of the same video.

32 posted on 09/08/2007 12:55:59 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MaestroLC
According to Azzam Tamimi, head of the London-based Institute of Islamic Political Thought, the beard dye is a "sign of war."

Sounds like the sign of vanity of a demented old man.

Anyone looking for signs of logic and rationality from a Muslim are going to be sorely disappointed.

These are the people who have placed a black rock in the middle of a huge square (at 5 feet high so it is ideal for kissing), and they circle this rock trying to get close to it to kiss it because they believe it "absorbs sins."

They also think Abraham actually built the first altar (kaba) for the rock! Yea right! Abraham, who followed God's prescription for blood sacrifice to the letter of the law and who abhorred idol worship was going to build this abomination.

33 posted on 09/08/2007 1:00:06 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: MediaMole

Thanks. I think the poster on the other thread that I reffered to had probably gotten hold of two clips from the same video. Or possibly someone had edited the 2004 video to show how it would be possible to do so. I’m sure the gang at AQ Photolabs is getting a bit more sophisticated.


34 posted on 09/08/2007 1:00:07 PM PDT by livius
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To: MediaMole

If you look at the noses and the brow linesin each still shot you can see that they are two different people.


35 posted on 09/08/2007 1:00:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (“Jesus Saves. Moses Delivers. Cthulu Reposesses...”)
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To: MaestroLC

Binnie was saying that we Westerners caused the Holocaust, not Muslims, and was bragging that Islam does not allow burning people alive. Ahem, Binnie, is this thing on?? Do we remember 9/11/01???? Oh yes, great humanitarian, you.


36 posted on 09/08/2007 1:02:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Global2010

Hubbly Bubbly. I haven’t heard that phrase since I was in Egypt in the ‘70s!


37 posted on 09/08/2007 1:04:35 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: tet68
Go ahead foolish man, kill thousands more Americans, give us a bloody nose, then brother get ready cause our blood will be up and your tribe will decrease.

His tribe has decreased. Al Qaeda is wounded. They're hurting. They have received a particular thrashing in Iraq, but in other places as well.

That may be the reason for the video.

38 posted on 09/08/2007 1:20:36 PM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: Centurion2000
Was the bin Laden in the 2004 video even him? Contrasted with the one of him skipping over the rocks like a mountain goat, it looks so different.

However, it is true that people's faces change with age and weight gain/loss, almost to the point of unrecognisability.

39 posted on 09/08/2007 1:20:38 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Allegra

i agree. old ben (bin) is dead.


40 posted on 09/08/2007 1:22:30 PM PDT by camas
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To: Centurion2000; Earthdweller; MediaMole
If you look at the noses and the brow linesin each still shot you can see that they are two different people.

Even the shape of the eyes is different.

41 posted on 09/08/2007 1:22:35 PM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: Yaelle; Global2010
Hubbly Bubbly. I haven’t heard that phrase since I was in Egypt in the ‘70s!

You still hear that phrase in the Middle East. Regularly. ;-)

42 posted on 09/08/2007 1:24:15 PM PDT by Allegra (Turning Vanity Threads Into New Socks Threads at Every Opportunity)
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To: MaestroLC

Anyone else have doubts that the person on the video tape is not Bin Laden? The guy had different eyes and a much broader nose than I remember Bin Laden having. His skin color appeared somewhat different too, a bit darker and more olive than tan. I haven’t heard the audio tape, so I can’t speak to that.


43 posted on 09/08/2007 1:27:15 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Earthdweller
It's offical. BL is a commie.

Nah, he's just actually very good at playing the liberals like a violin.

44 posted on 09/08/2007 1:28:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MaestroLC

I invite islam to bite me


45 posted on 09/08/2007 1:38:37 PM PDT by billphx
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To: MaestroLC
the beard dye is a "sign of war"

They dye their beards black, we dye our MOABs orange, with racing stripes.


46 posted on 09/08/2007 1:43:19 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Earthdweller

See the sag? Looks like he’s had a stroke.


47 posted on 09/08/2007 1:43:20 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Earthdweller; Allegra; Grampa Dave; george76
Check out the two faces of binny...

The eyes, brows and bridge of the nose look suspiciously different. UBL must have had a fabulous makeover.......or someone else did.
48 posted on 09/08/2007 1:45:09 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: All
Democrats . . . "continue to agree to the spending of tens of billions to continue the killing and war there."

Anyone know his dailykos screen name? Maybe I'll look for a screen name that never uses four-letter words. That'll narrow it down to a couple, maybe. Wonder if OBL takes part in the conference calls with the Congressional Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party)?

49 posted on 09/08/2007 1:53:18 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: richardtavor

Ron Paul’s got his white flag ready......


50 posted on 09/08/2007 1:56:31 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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