Posted on 09/08/2007 5:10:42 PM PDT by kiki04
Quick, call Michael Baden! In 2004, he testified that a guy who’d been punched in the head, then fallen to the pavement and suffered a seven inch skull fracture had actually died of a stroke an instant before he was hit.
“Correction, one of the passenger’s 16th birthday. The kids were all 16 though.”
What a terrible, terrible tragedy.
The cops will check the car for damage. A man on a bike being hit by a car is going to leave trace evidence. No trace evidence and I would believe her story that the body was lying in the road.
It is sometimes not easy to see things lying in the road at night. You might see a dark blob of something, but it doesn’t register as being anything more than a shadow until you hit it. About 8 years ago a guy was left dead in the road about a half mile from my house. I drove past the body on the way to work at 6 am. Fortunately I didn’t run over him myself. The guy had been jogging in the middle of an unlit road while wearing dark clothes when he was hit by a hit and run driver. I heard later on the news that the body was run over at least a couple times by other vehicles.
I’d like a lot more info on her car’s condition before I could begin to assess her her story. She had plenty of time to sober up and get her story straight.
Forensics will clear this up.
Amen to that. Unfortunately, the parents will likely learn nothing. Far too many of today's parents are far more concerned with being "liked" by their kids 100% of the time instead of providing the guidance and structure that's so desperately needed in youth.
MM (in TX)
Proper usage of the idiom would be: "...I'm like, SO THERE!” (I work with 'em too; twenty-somethings. My 16 year-old-daughter speaks better than that!).
I think they can have a permit with a licensed/insured adult to a certain age here not sure a age they turn them loose on there own.
We were talking about back in the 60s and 70s we had drivers ed in school for a semester and we had to have it all down to parallel parking to knowing the rules/laws of the road before our teacher would sign us of to go down to DMV for the official permit test at 16 and then we had a period of time that we could not drive without an adult in the car.
Now a days even in our lil community drivers ed no longer exists.
They get a few tips (have to hire a teacher of driving I think is an option if Mom and Dad dont teach ya) then take the written and driving DMV test for the permit.
Now we live in a rural area where gravel and sharp winding roads play a big part in the first accident.
Scary IMO.
Just as likely the parents after years of not providing structure to their children’s lives find that they do not like their children and would just as soon not have them around.
So they let their children spend as much time outside the home as they like just to be rid of them as much as possible.
“I am even more old fashioned and with drivers training a person could get their drivers license at 14, as I did.”
I learned and practiced to drive at that age on the back roads in the interior of Panama. I had my Dad with me at all times. I was not allowed to drive anywhere (and always with my Dad) where there were cars nearby until I took my test at 18 years of age.
Buying children cars is fatal as you said. I had a distant cousin killed a few years ago. His parents gave him a sports type car for Christmas, and he wiped himself out (another died and the third survived) during Christmas break. He collided with a truck at about 2:00 a.m. in the morning. So much for Christmas gifts in cars.
At 2:00 a.m. in the morning?
So much for these types of parents who are more show than caring.
Gotcha. ;)
LOL!!!
Yes I did.
I am just very sleepy.
After I made that stupid remark, I thought I would make things that much worse by correcting myself AGAIN.
But this thread is too interesting to let go.
My apologies.
Regards.
I think you have been to too many Ron Paul gatherings.
“My understanding is that many of the farm kids drove on the FM roads hauling hay years before they received a license.”
I understand that completely. It is a necessity in the farm community.
But those who get whacked are not farm children. They are overindulged children with lazy parents.
If the parents or parent is working, there is always the school bus.
Not all kids are alike, nor are they raised alike. My daughter is 17, earned her own money and bought her own car. She is a volunteer firefighter and a 1st Responder.
Her older brother, on the other hand was not nearly as responsible or industrious at the same age, although he did get it together. Her younger brother is behind the power curve as well. Kids, like adults should be judged according to their actions, not age.
“My boys have been driving trucks and tractors, shooting guns, and etc since way before 16 years, and doing so quite responsibly.”
Farming communities get a pass in my book for obvious reasons. It is a necessity, and those children in farming mature a lot faster because they have responsiblities.
(We also learned to shoot guns at an early age. Actually, we 4 siblings were hell on wheels…but of the good kind. We did not damage anything. We were just very active, and our parents had to keep us busy 24/7. I don’t know how they did it.)
“...parallel parking...”
Ah yes...I take great pride in my parallel parking.
They don’t seem to teach it today. It seems to have become an art.
“Not all kids are alike, nor are they raised alike. My daughter is 17, earned her own money and bought her own car. She is a volunteer firefighter and a 1st Responder.”
Again, your daughter is the exception. She is not a child in spite of her chronicle age. You taught her responsibilities. You too are a great mother, and she will be a great mentor to her children as you have been to her.
I really need to get off to bed.
I have had a great evening with all of you.
Thank you and good night.
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