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To: Solitar
"If they want to adhere to tradition, then they should hunt with spears."

There's nothing in their tradition that respects the luddites, or their philosphy.

"I suspect that Native Americans in the lower 48 would have eventually decimated the buffalo with just horses and rifles. "

You be wrong. They hunted the buffalo for food, lodging, clothes, tools and furnature. Their spiritual culture considered the animals sacred and they didn't kill them for the sake of killing.

27 posted on 09/09/2007 8:25:03 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets
They only quit driving buffalo herds off cliffs to get their supplies when the white man brought the horse to the Americas.
28 posted on 09/09/2007 8:33:44 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: spunkets
You be wrong. They hunted the buffalo for food, lodging, clothes, tools and furnature. Their spiritual culture considered the animals sacred and they didn't kill them for the sake of killing.

Indians are humans -- their individual and tribal selfishness would have overwhelmed their considerations of the animals being sacred and they would have exploited their commons. Even without white Americans involved beyond being a source of rifles and ammo, the Indians would have hunted the buffalo (for food, lodging, clothes, tools and furniture) until there were too few buffalo to support them. That is the all too common population boom during followed by a crash after they decimate their prey.

31 posted on 09/09/2007 8:37:08 AM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: spunkets

We live along the Upper Yukon and Indians here ignore everything the feds & state attempts to tell them concerning fish & game. They hunt like they always have, that means no closed season. They use to move seasonally to harvest fish & game but feds took their kids all off them until they started living in permanent villages. Had something to do with land ownership & taxes.

They figure it was the whites that came into their country and screwed it all up. You won’t find 50 bucks of white mans food in any of their cabins, except maybe booze. They really still live off what the land & river provides. Why they are so sensitive to enviro changes as they starve when it occurs. Most us Whites are pretty ignorant about Indians until you have spent a year as only white boy in a village; they you kinda figure them out, see all the good rather than just the bad.

Bottomline is I kinda like how they refuse to adhere to govt law. Without voluntary compliance, govt can’t control anybody. Maybe we could learn a little from them Indians.


33 posted on 09/09/2007 8:44:00 AM PDT by Eska
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To: spunkets

“They hunted the buffalo for food, lodging, clothes, tools and furnature. Their spiritual culture considered the animals sacred and they didn’t kill them for the sake of killing.”

You may want to read some history. There are many accounts of Indians on hunts killing buffalo just for the tongues and leaving the rest of the carcass. The only time the whole animal was used was when the village (either stationary or on the move) was nearby. Simple logistics. Hunting parties were limited in what they could carry. The white buffalo hunters always took the hides (that’s primarily what they killed the bufffalo for), and some of the meat. Indians could be pretty wasteful. The mythology of the American Indian as some kind of heroic environmentalist is swill poured by do-gooders who never saw an Indian in the flesh (and likely wouldn’t have survived the experience if he or she had).


77 posted on 09/09/2007 7:38:51 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: spunkets

They did, however, drive entire herds over cliffs. Having so done, there was meat and hides galore, followed by flies galore, followed all too soon by hunger galore.

Teeth of most Indians show indication of annual starvation periods.

Being a stone age savage was not a nice “way of life” because it had no “quality of life” and often resulted in no life at all.


81 posted on 09/09/2007 8:30:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: spunkets

? ? ? “You be wrong.” ? ? ??

You be posting Ebonics?

;-)


82 posted on 09/09/2007 8:31:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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