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The 50 Worst Cars of All Time
time.com ^ | Dan Neil,

Posted on 09/09/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by shove_it

... the Model T was a piece of junk, the Yugo of its day...

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


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1 posted on 09/09/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by shove_it
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To: shove_it

It was a “piece of junk” that people could afford to buy however. Generally speaking, automobiles prior to the T were lovingly constructed one at a time by hand, sparing no expense on the appointments and were pretty much exclusively affordable only to the very, very rich. Think 16 cylinder Duesenbergs. Think Testarossa or Lamborghini being the only cars available pricewise. Sure, nice car but hardly suitable for the masses.

Facts without context are worse than lies, almost.


2 posted on 09/09/2007 6:41:06 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: shove_it

All yugos came with rear window defrosters so your hands didn’t get cold when pushing it in the wintertime. :-)


3 posted on 09/09/2007 6:42:29 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Freedom4US

“Facts without context are worse than lies, almost.”

This article is FULL of them. Terrible article.


4 posted on 09/09/2007 6:44:39 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: shove_it
forget the article. let's weigh in.

Renault LeCar has to be in that list somewhere.

5 posted on 09/09/2007 6:46:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm an endangered species. And I don't want your protection.)
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To: shove_it

Mostly he trashes the Model T for starting people buying cars. That’s his real beef.

A bit of leftwing hysteria thrown in, typical CNN.


6 posted on 09/09/2007 6:46:45 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: shove_it

So the 1995 Ford Explorer is a worst car because it made SUV’s popular with soccer Moms? And if there were fewer of them, it would be a great car?


7 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:04 AM PDT by OCC
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To: shove_it

I forgot to add, how can there be a “worst cars of all time list” and the Fiero NOT be on it? I felt snubbed. ;)


8 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:29 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: shove_it

Any car with the word “Fiat” on it.


9 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:32 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: shove_it
Model T — whose mass production technique was the work of engineer William C. Klann, who had visited a slaughterhouse's "disassembly line" — conferred to Americans the notion of automobility as something akin to natural law, a right endowed by our Creator. A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up, from the air over our cities to the sand under our soldiers' boots.

Worst thesis ever, not the worst car. Restated the argument is that the Model T was one of the worst cars ever because it was so affordable that it made everyone get or want a car. This led to war and environmental problems. Therefore the Model T was so attractive to consumers and so affordable that it was one of the worst cars ever. Time magazine publishes drivel.

10 posted on 09/09/2007 6:48:54 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

LeLunchBox?


11 posted on 09/09/2007 6:50:14 AM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Hey! My LeCar allowed me to survive a run in with an 18 wheeler...


12 posted on 09/09/2007 6:52:00 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: shove_it
Here's the rub for Time:

"Well, that's just the problem, isn't it? The Model T...conferred to Americans the notion of automobility as something akin to natural law, a right endowed by our Creator. A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up, from the air over our cities to the sand under our soldiers' boots.

I wonder if the author walks to work, or eats food carried by hand from the farm fields to home. BTW - I've spent time in Afghanistan, and my two oldest kids have done tours in Iraq. Is it just me, or is the author's concern for the sand under my boots less than sincere?

13 posted on 09/09/2007 6:52:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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To: toddlintown

“Any car with the word “Fiat” on it.”

FIX-IT-AGAIN-TONY


14 posted on 09/09/2007 6:53:20 AM PDT by chadwimc (Proud to be an infidel ! Allah fubar !!!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yah, I think it is a good question, even if the article is a steaming pile of . . . nonsense.

I was going to vote for the Ford Pinto in the 1970’s, as unsafe, unreliable, unattractive and uncomfortable. However, it did have the virtue of being affordable, so it could be beaten as the worst car ever.


15 posted on 09/09/2007 6:54:16 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Tolsti
Mostly he trashes the Model T for starting people buying cars. That’s his real beef.

Exactly. 100 years ago Henry Ford produced the Model T and we don't walk and shovel horses&it everyday. That TERRIBLE!

Could not read beyond it since there is no way I could be sure I could tell the difference between fact or fiction.

16 posted on 09/09/2007 6:54:58 AM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: kAcknor

Yeah, I closed the window as soon as he said ‘this leads to us all dying from cars’ crap myself.


17 posted on 09/09/2007 6:55:42 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: shove_it
The author’s bio is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Neil

I found no automotive knowledge there.

18 posted on 09/09/2007 6:56:06 AM PDT by shove_it (nonilligitimus carborundum)
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To: kAcknor

It’s Time Magazine. Assume fiction until proven otherwise.


19 posted on 09/09/2007 6:56:13 AM PDT by hc87
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To: Mr Rogers

It is likely that the article’s author doesn’t do as much good in the world as he would if his sole job were just to lick the sand from soldier’s boots.


20 posted on 09/09/2007 6:56:30 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: toddlintown

My friend had a Spyder in the 70s. He called it a “Fiatsco.”


21 posted on 09/09/2007 6:57:26 AM PDT by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: shove_it
we have to consider the source:
TIME and Dan Neil, Pulitzer Prize-winning automotive critic and
syndicated columnist for the Los Angeles Times,


Los Angeles is loaded with Democrats/Lieberals that want the
unwashed masses pushed onto public transportation (busses and
the Metro...so they can drive Hummers, Bugattis, and other
gas-guzzling (and wonderful!) vehicles.

As for the Model T:
1. Affordable
2. Readily repairable
3. Not just a car but a farm implement (using the Power Take Off to
power farm equipment

Failing to name the Model T as the Volkswagen Bug of it's day
(only decades ahead of time)...Dan Neil was either having a
bad day or on an excess of drugs.
22 posted on 09/09/2007 6:57:28 AM PDT by VOA
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To: vietvet67

LOL - good line! :o)


23 posted on 09/09/2007 6:58:08 AM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Tolsti
Mostly he trashes the Model T for starting people buying cars. That’s his real beef.

"It wasn't Marx, but Ford who made the Revolution possible by freeing the proletariat from the idiocy of rural life."

-Lenin

24 posted on 09/09/2007 6:58:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: shove_it
The worst 50 cars with a liberal slant by the writers. Here's what they say about the 1995 Ford Explorer:

In its very success, the Ford Explorer is responsible for setting this country on the spiral of vehicular obesity that we are still contending with today. People, particularly women drivers, discovered that they liked sitting up high. Even though more fuel-efficient minivans do the kid- and cargo-hauling duties better, people came to prefer the outdoorsy, go-anywhere image of SUVs. In other words, people became addicted to the pose. And, as vehicles got bigger and heavier, buyers sought out even bigger vehicles to make themselves feel safe. Helloooo Hummer. All of that we can lay at the overachieving feet of the Explorer.

25 posted on 09/09/2007 6:59:00 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: toddlintown

I had a 1972 Fiat 128. I was constantly working on it. My father refered to it as “deigo’s dream” (no disrespect to anyone)


26 posted on 09/09/2007 6:59:41 AM PDT by mmanager (Fred instead of Purebred, Crossbred and the Hothead)
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To: shove_it

Typical Time crappola.


27 posted on 09/09/2007 7:01:12 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: shove_it
Dumb article.

The definition of "worst" seems to be "the writer personally dislikes it."

The Excursion? Please. There was nothing wrong with that vehicle.

28 posted on 09/09/2007 7:01:40 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: shove_it

1971 Plymouth Cricket.

THREE transmissions in 4700 miles. Massive electrical problems. Mercifully put to death with only 11,000 miles


29 posted on 09/09/2007 7:02:23 AM PDT by ulm1 (“There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them.”)
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To: L98Fiero

Heh. When I clicked on the link, I actually did think of the Fiero.


30 posted on 09/09/2007 7:02:29 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Funny how dems, bin laden, and lenin often have the exact same message.


31 posted on 09/09/2007 7:02:39 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Mr Rogers
I’m wondering the exact same thing - I guess the esteemed writer at Time would rather have passed the last century by avoiding horse crap in the streets and the diseases it carried then the wonders of the modern age. Why stop with the car -maybe we could have done without electricity -look at all the energy that uses - and avoided all the complications of let’s see -refrigeration, air conditioning, aviation. Women could still shop at a local market every day and take the wash down to the river on the weekend and do it over one of those old washboards - sort of a world only the Taliban dreams about today.
What a jerk that guy is.
32 posted on 09/09/2007 7:04:39 AM PDT by pineybill (`)
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To: All

this writer is a leftist shill masquerading as an auto journalist. what about the hippy vans,prius, they would shutdown on the freeway.


33 posted on 09/09/2007 7:06:01 AM PDT by Liberty2007
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To: Greg F
A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up...

It was government and not industry that put every living soul on the government roads.

34 posted on 09/09/2007 7:07:20 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Tolsti
A bit of leftwing hysteria thrown in, typical CNN.

What story are you reading? The one linked above is by an LA Times car critic writing for Time Magazine.

35 posted on 09/09/2007 7:08:18 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: shove_it
Looks like they forgot the Aurora.
36 posted on 09/09/2007 7:13:36 AM PDT by clyde asbury (One more quirky, cliched phrase)
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To: shove_it

Any list of the worst cars without the Vega shouldn’t be taken seriously. Those cars were made of compressed rust just waiting for the paint to fall off.


37 posted on 09/09/2007 7:14:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: shove_it

Ever since those fools allowed the serfs to talk back the world went to hell.


38 posted on 09/09/2007 7:14:59 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (F' Akalla - D' Ethtislam)
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To: shove_it
50 more reasons why nobody reads Time.
39 posted on 09/09/2007 7:15:19 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: shove_it

He is basically a social critic who uses the enormously popular automobile as a watering trough for his tortured slop.


40 posted on 09/09/2007 7:15:22 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: ReignOfError

And it was linked off cnn.com’s main page too as well.


41 posted on 09/09/2007 7:15:50 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: Tolsti

He makes a snide comment about the V-8 too.


42 posted on 09/09/2007 7:16:16 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: shove_it
I read up on the Bricklin, one of the first cars on the list I looked at new. The dealer was stuck with a couple of them.

At the time, I was used to working with a jackhammer and could pick up 300 lbs of rock and walk away with it.

Anyway, I got in, the door would not latch because the battery was low, and it would not open either (same reason). After discussing whether we could get jumpers on the battery and other options with the dealer, I pulled the safety pin and tried to open the door from the driver's seat. Uh uh. No go. It took the dealer, a friend, and my own efforts to get the door open far enough to get out.

Keep in mind, this was a 'safety' car and a snug fit to boot, so there was not much room for the driver to move around when you were behind the wheel.

As for being slow, well, as I recall more than a few were wrecked at speeds exceeding 100 mph, and the drivers walked away from the wrecks. So they were fairly safe in a wreck, (as much as that makes sense). It was another 20 years, for instance before another manufacturer was touting side beams in the doors, even though the later models were much lighter in construction.

While some aspects were positive (heavy construction, midships engine) others outweighed them. (Handling, getting in and out).

They were pretty expensive, too (about $10,000, iirc) when other cars were going for $5-7,000.

I noted a few cars in the article which were marketing disasters, but did not really belong on the list of the writer's prejudices had the article really dealt with automotive quality.

Some were only guilty of being ahead of their time.

An interesting compendium, but far from what I would consider an accurate list of the "worst".

For instance, I did not see the Ford Taurus, for its transmission woes or spare parts compatibility (You needed to know the VIN to tie down which week the car was made to get some of the right replacement parts.) I guess the Taurus was too politically correct to make the cut.

43 posted on 09/09/2007 7:18:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: TruthWillWin
Just wait until you get to the Hummer:

It was/is arrogantly huge, overtly militaristic, openly scornful of the common good....It all contributed to GM's emerging image as the Dick Cheney of car companies.

44 posted on 09/09/2007 7:18:13 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: chadwimc

I cannot imagine a crackerbox LeCar being the reason. Must have been the hand of God or just incredible luck. LOL!


45 posted on 09/09/2007 7:19:11 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Greg F

“I was going to vote for the Ford Pinto in the 1970’s, as unsafe, unreliable, unattractive and uncomfortable.”

I had a ‘76 when I was a teenager. Crappiest car I’ve ever owned.


46 posted on 09/09/2007 7:19:37 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Greg F

Propaganda Tip: whenever the deconstructionists refer to something as a “notion”; rest assured it is almost certainly part of the bedrock of society. See also “cherished delusions.”


47 posted on 09/09/2007 7:19:59 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: shove_it
Irony is never so apparent as when Time starts blathering on about "the worst" of anything.
48 posted on 09/09/2007 7:20:30 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: shove_it

Next time, Time should find a car guy, not an environmentalist to write this article.

Then again, they chose America-haters to do articles on our Founding Fathers, foreign policy, etc. so I shouldn’t be surprised.


49 posted on 09/09/2007 7:20:37 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: ulm1

1981 Dodge Colt. Drove one (brand new)from Fairbanks Alaska to NYC and back. Sold it as soon as trip was over and never had another small car after that.


50 posted on 09/09/2007 7:21:32 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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