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Tribe vows prosecution for killing of whale
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | September 9, 2007 | MIKE LEWIS AND PAUL SHUKOVSKY

Posted on 09/10/2007 10:01:55 AM PDT by skeptoid

Many fear effort to legalize new hunt may be derailed

NEAH BAY -- One day after a group of frustrated Makah tribal members asserted treaty and historic rights by harpooning and killing a protected gray whale, tribal leaders condemned the hunt and vowed to prosecute the men.

"Their action was a blatant violation of our law, and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," said Debbie Wachendorf, the Makah Tribal Council vice chairwoman.

"The Makah Tribal Council denounces the actions of those who took it on themselves to hunt a whale without the authority of the Makah Tribal Council or the Makah Whaling Commission."

The tribal council acted swiftly amid concerns that the unauthorized hunt could damage chances that the federal government --

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: americanindians; civildisobedience; coastalenvironment; indiantreatyrights; nativeamericans; prosecute; tribemakah; whale; whaling
THE WHALE KILLERS ARE RENEGADES!!
1 posted on 09/10/2007 10:01:56 AM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid
Do you think firewater was involved?
2 posted on 09/10/2007 10:06:32 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: skeptoid
As the story says, ...their historic right specifically reserved by treaty to the coastal Indian band: the authority to hunt as their ancestors did for thousands of years on the Olympic Peninsula...

...After plunging in the harpoon, a rifleman began firing at the animal with a Weatherbee .460, a large-bore hunting rifle...

3 posted on 09/10/2007 10:08:27 AM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London, Salt Lake City)
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To: skeptoid
"The Makah Tribal Council denounces the actions of those who took it on themselves to hunt a whale without the authority of the Makah Tribal Council or the Makah Whaling Commission."

If we were to assume these whales are ours to do with as we please we would be as guilty as those who caused their extinction.

They like you very much, but they are not the hell your whales.

4 posted on 09/10/2007 10:11:32 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: skeptoid

Last time they killed one, the majority of the beast rotted because EVERYONE who tasted the stuff wretched. The Makah’s shared the meat with other casino-American’s who tried to sell the stuff to the gullible patrons...who also wretched when they ate the gunk.


5 posted on 09/10/2007 10:19:24 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: T.Smith
Your first sentence makes no sense.

The second sentence is irrelevant. The renegades broke the law and ingnored their own Tribal Council, who readily condemns their actions.

BTW, what is a "hell-your-whales"?

6 posted on 09/10/2007 10:20:17 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: skeptoid

I am an avid hunter.... but do not believe there is any good reason to hunt whales.

The survival of these large, magnificent, intelligent creatures is threatened.

Hunting deer, moose, birds, bears, etc is one thing - there are plenty of them around.

The same guys who think there’s no such thing as property think the whales are ‘theirs.’ Amazing.


7 posted on 09/10/2007 10:23:34 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: skeptoid

“We allow native hunts for cultural purposes.”

I guess one needs permission first from the Cultural Leader...


8 posted on 09/10/2007 10:25:56 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: bigfootbob

Retching is wretched.


9 posted on 09/10/2007 10:27:04 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: skeptoid
"Their action was a blatant violation of our law, and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," said Debbie Wachendorf, the Makah Tribal Council vice chairwoman.

Yeah, right. /s

10 posted on 09/10/2007 10:28:52 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Had your bowl of stereotype for breakfast? I’m an Indian and I am not an alcoholic. Neither is anyone in my family. In fact most of them do not drink at all. You don’t need to apologize but you might start thinking before your mouth is engaged.
11 posted on 09/10/2007 10:29:15 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: skeptoid

I thought they were to hunt and fish just like they did back in the bow and arrow days. They didn’t have Weatherbys back then.


12 posted on 09/10/2007 10:30:24 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Old Professer

cultural purposes...

jeez I better get the broadsword away from my Swede/Finn wife... next thing I know she’ll form a raiding party and go after the next town over...


13 posted on 09/10/2007 10:31:39 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: T.Smith

The Pacific Grey Whale is not almost extinct. Matter of fact they have built up to what scientists think were about their original numbers. That said, what these idiots did was down right shameful.


14 posted on 09/10/2007 10:31:57 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: skeptoid
I’m sorry, I was channeling Spock from one of the Star Trek movies. They went back in time to get two humpback whales to help save the Earth. I should have been clearer. Those are quotes from the movie.
15 posted on 09/10/2007 10:33:29 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith

That was one of the best Star Trek movies made.


16 posted on 09/10/2007 10:35:31 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: omega4412
Weatherby. The editor can’t spell either.
17 posted on 09/10/2007 10:39:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
The survival of these large, magnificent, intelligent creatures is threatened

The population along the Mexico-US-Canadian-Alaska coastline is healthy. Apparently 25,000 or more animals. The only other population is the Western Pacific (Japan, Korea and Russia) and it is in trouble.
Interesting that the only viable population is along the shores of the US.

I find it very curious that renegade Makahs aren't interested in joining in the responsible management of the resource now that it is recovered and viable.

18 posted on 09/10/2007 10:41:07 AM PDT by skeptoid (AA, UE, MBS (with clusters))
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To: fish hawk

Apologize? That’s a leap.

Please point out exactly where I called anyone (native or immigrant) an “alcoholic”. I didn’t even imply it...unless someone was looking for an implied offense.

Every group has their “hold muh beer and watch this” moment. Some have idiosyncratic etymologies associated with their antics. (such as the above “redneck requiem”).

Hell, I’m guilty of being “Stupid Under the Influence” on occasion, only mine would use the term “bourbon”, not beer or even “firewater”. That doesn’t make me an alcoholic nor even a Kentuckian.

It certainly would make me see offense where none is given.


19 posted on 09/10/2007 10:49:27 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
I must have been mistaken. I thought you said , “do you think FIREWATER was involved.” You know, Mexicans steal hub caps, Jews are money grabbers, Blacks are lazy, Indians are alchies.
20 posted on 09/10/2007 10:55:52 AM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

.460 Weatherby Magnum is a whole lot of kaboomyow but did not ever before hear of using it on sea mammals.

It used to be the most powerful of the Weatherby belted magnums.


21 posted on 09/10/2007 11:18:43 AM PDT by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
The Weatherby rep for Midwestern states let me fire a .460 once. That was enough.
22 posted on 09/10/2007 11:32:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Dang, those are high class whale hunters, if we belive Fox News, they must have used a Weatherby MACHINE GUN. Apparently Fox has some producers who are stuck on stupid.


23 posted on 09/10/2007 11:36:58 AM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: omega4412
the authority to hunt as their ancestors did

It doesn't sound like these guys were hunting like their ancestors did. Since the tribe has violated the treaty, the US should declare it void.

24 posted on 09/10/2007 12:21:23 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: skeptoid

From the article: “the authority to hunt as their ancestors did”. Don’t recall many rifles being used by the Injuns 1000 years ago or motorized watercraft.
This is a completely disgusting group of people. Humans had a tradition of buy and selling other humans for thousands of years too. It doesn’t mean that it should continue just because they had always done it.


25 posted on 09/10/2007 12:36:38 PM PDT by go-dubya-04
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Wasn’t Mr. Weatherbee Archie and Jughead’s principal? Reporters are idiots. Every time I see such a simple mistake, it reinforces my view that you can’t believe a word they say.
26 posted on 09/10/2007 12:43:46 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I watched a friend fire a .458 Win Ruger #1 from a standing position. It spun him around about 90 degrees, he was stunned for a few seconds, and then he said “That wasn’t so bad”. We never did let him live that down.


27 posted on 09/10/2007 12:47:43 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

I fired the .460 prone with ear plugs and cups. It moved me back a couple of inches. No black and blue mark, tho. Just good instruction.


28 posted on 09/10/2007 12:56:39 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: fish hawk
If they were Irish he'd have said Whiskey-

If they were from Russia he'd have said Vodka-

29 posted on 09/10/2007 6:59:13 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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