Add that to the illegal issues, anti-Second Amendment, spending, and regulation, IMO = NO CHANCE!
Fortunately we have a choice!
Posted on 09/10/2007 4:14:42 PM PDT by wagglebee
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Fresh from his announcement last week that he is seeking the GOP nomination for president next year, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson talked about one of his top opponents in a weekend interview. He said former mayor Rudy Giuliani's pro-abortion view is inconsistent with Republican principles.
Thompson participated in an interview on Sunday with KTVI, a Fox News local affiliate.
The television station asked the former attorney and actor if Giuliani is unfit to be the Republican nominee because of his pro-abortion position.
Thompson initially avoided answering the question.
"Rudy's like the rest of us. He's going to have to explain his record and why he did what he did and I'm going to have to do the same thing," he said.
Pressed again about the ex-New York City mayor being out of step with most of the members of his party, Thompson was somewhat more specific.
"I think a long record of pro-choice is inconsistent with what most Republicans think," Thompson said.
"But you know, people have to make up for themselves, make up their own mind for themselves, as to how important they think that is. I think it's an important issue. It's one of many issues. We'll have to go through the process and let everybody have their say and let the people decide what their priorities are," Thompson explained.
A new poll backs up Thompson's contention that a pro-abortion position is inconsistent with the position most Republicans take on the contentious issue.
A Diageo poll conducted for the Hotline political newspaper earlier this month found that three times as many Republicans said they're pro-life than said they back legal abortions.
More specifically, 63 percent of Republicans said they want all or almost all abortions prohibited, while just 20 percent said abortions should be legal. Another 16 percent want them legal but want more limits on them.
Republicans appeared to acknowledge that Rudy Giuliani's pro-abortion views are out of the mainstream of the party. Just 20 percent say he is the candidate who best represents the general positions of the GOP.
The same poll found GOP voters backed Giuliani by a 27 to 17 percentage point margin over Thompson, though it was conducted before Thompson's recent announcement he is officially entering the race.
Mitt Romney came in third with 15 percent, John McCain has 12 percent and the rest of the field polled in the low single digits.
And Rooty Toot is NEVER going to be able to win over social conservatives.
Ping
Thompson initially avoided answering the question.
"Rudy's like the rest of us. He's going to have to explain his record and why he did what he did and I'm going to have to do the same thing," he said.
Pressed again about the ex-New York City mayor being out of step with most of the members of his party, Thompson was somewhat more specific.
"I think a long record of pro-choice is inconsistent with what most Republicans think," Thompson said.
"But you know, people have to make up for themselves, make up their own mind for themselves, as to how important they think that is. I think it's an important issue. It's one of many issues. We'll have to go through the process and let everybody have their say and let the people decide what their priorities are," Thompson explained.
What bold, courageous leadership!
/heavy sarcasm
Target Rooty!
First Fred tells Rooty, his NYCity`s gun control policy was dead wrong. Yesterday he told Rooty that his immigration policy is dead wrong. Today he tells Rooty his pro-abortion stance is dead wrong.
Go Fred go!
That number is definitely a problem for Giuliani.
He’ll never be able to win over the libertarian wing of the party either. He’s a gun-grabbing nanny-stater by his very nature. A handful of New York elitists (Rich Lowrey and John Podhoretz, to name a couple) have scare-mongered and snookered a lot of Republicans into thinking Ruity is the only possible alternative to the ‘Beast.
I think you read a different article than the one posted above.
The ONLY people who Rooty Toot will appeal to are the liberals and they don’t vote Republican.
Give Fred some credit. The interviewer tried to catch him between two basic principles: Don’t attack your fellow Republicans needlessly, and don’t dodge the issues.
Fred has been clear that he is pro-life, and his record in the senate was completely pro-life too.
So it’s unfair to criticize him as if he were ducking the question of abortion, when in fact the questioner was really trying to trap him into an unprovoked attack on Giuliani.
LOL, the infamous bug zapper thread.
Holy crap, that thread is up to eighteen thousand posts!
I’m not criticizing Fred at all. In a perfect world, I would prefer to see Hunter as the nominee, but that won’t happen. Fred is easily the second best and he has handled his “non campaign” perfectly.
Personally, I call Rooty what he is. A scumbag abortionist.
Fred’s actual statement about Rudy’s pro-abortion views certainly were not as strong as the headline implied they were. That being said, I’m glad to see him taking a shot a radical pro-abortionist Rudy Giuliani.
STOP RUDY 2008 PING!
That tells me those people aren't pro-life.
I’m not.
And, if I really wanted the guy to lose, I’d never give the impression that I’d support the guy, if he did happen to win.
I support Hunter. I also support Thompson. I can probably choke it back and vote for Romney. My very act of saying that about Romney, actually helps his candidacy. He can frame it as: “I’m the one the conservatives can stomach. I’m the most liberal Pubbie you can get.”
In Rudy’s case, he is definitely the most liberal Republican running. I’d never give the impression that I could choke it back and support him.
Besides that. Given his pro-murder position, to vote for him would make me violate a command of God. In his case, I’d definitely have to decline.
As I’ve said, it is possible that a strong conservative candidate could defeat Rudy & Hillary by engineering a 3 way split of the vote.
‘”Rudy’s like the rest of us. He’s going to have to explain his record and why he did what he did and I’m going to have to do the same thing,” he said.
Pressed again about the ex-New York City mayor being out of step with most of the members of his party, Thompson was somewhat more specific.
“I think a long record of pro-choice is inconsistent with what most Republicans think,” Thompson said.”
I agree with Thompson with this, but can’t undersand why he won’t commit to debating in the Values Voters debate.
“GOP Values Voters Presidential Debate; Sept. 17, 2007, 7:30 p.m., ET
The GOP Values Voters Presidential Debate
We’ve heard the questions from talking snowmen. We’ve gotten the crumbs that fell from Chris Matthews. Now it’s our turn. It’s time the candidates answer questions from the largest voting block in America: the values voters. Yes, the values voters.
A letter of invitation was sent June 4 from national pro-family leaders to both the Republican and Democrats running for president. While it seems everyone is clamoring for the same date, Sept. 17, the good news is that seven out of 10 of the Republican candidates have already confirmed their attendance to speak on that date to the most essential constituency: the values voters.
So far, six Republicans (Huckabee, Brownback, Hunter, Paul, Tancredo, and Cox) have rightly chosen to attend the event where they will hear from the base of their party.
Mark the date! September 17 at 7:30 p.m. Eastern. The Values Voter Presidential Debate held in Fort Lauderdale will be streamed live by the American Family Association. What makes this debate different? The candidates will be asked questions related to abortion, immigration, marriage and other issues Values Voters consider important. If you want to see where they stand on the traditional, pro-family issues, don’t miss this debate. Live video or audio streaming can be found at www.afa.net on the day of the debate.”
(I received this via e-mail from afa.net.)
==> Contact Fred and ask him to partake in the Values Voters debate, if he wants to separate himself from RudyMcRomney....
Here’s the contact info.==> Fred Thompson 615-390-9944 and e-mail at
http://www.imwithfred.com/Contact/Contact.aspx
Sorry, I’d rather stay home or vote 3rd party.
After Romney, Rooty and McCain said no to the Sept 17th debate, there was no good reason for Fred to attend. Fred`s #1 target is Giuliani, not the second tier of candidates.
At this point in time Rudy is Fred’s #1 target, but that could change with the blink of an eye. Politics is like that.
And how about doing the right thing, because it’s the right thing. I’m not thrilled with Fred when he co-sponsored the McCain/Feingold bill, plus some other reasons, and I’m less thrilled with him when he won’t debate the most important debate of all.
This debate is about (among other issues) the life issue, marriage and BORDERS!
If he snubs these people, we values voters WILL REMEMBER!
If you like Fred, contact him, and ask him to attend.
LOL! Who are you trying to kid? You don’t have a dog in this race — you’re a Paulbearer!
Doubtful.
No one is gonna remember this one debate. When the rubber hits the road, Fred will garner support from most conservatives, including social, religious and fiscal conservatives. If that leaves a few folks like you out in the cold, so be it.
“As I’ve said, it is possible that a strong conservative candidate could defeat Rudy & Hillary by engineering a 3 way split of the vote.” LOL! It’s NOT GONNA HAPPEN! If a conservative is going to win, he is going to have to do it as the GOP nominee.
I don't expect you to believe anything. When God was handing out commonsense, he past you right by.
Just as a point of reference, Ronald Reagan skipped just about every GOP debate and straw poll in 1979.
“No one is gonna remember this one debate.”
The Values Voters WILL remember this debate, even if they don’t remember any others, and if the Values Voters don’t show up at the polls, it could be the deciding factor in a close debate.
REMEMBER President Bush won in 2000 with around 275 votes.
Fred would be nuts to go to any one of these that he can skip. I personally think he should skip them all. Play by a different set of rules. If he’s one of the last two standing, then debate.
Yep. Rudy and mayoral successor Bloomie are cut from the same cloth: two gummint-loving authoritarians!
“Just as a point of reference, Ronald Reagan skipped just about every GOP debate and straw poll in 1979.”
Perhaps that’s because Ronald Reagan also entered the race late - after Labor Day, but now that Fred HAS announced, and it looks likes he’s joining Rudy McRomney and snubbing the Values Voters.
I really don’t think Ronald Reagan would have avoided the Values Voters debate once he declared.
More like there are pro-life voters who are giving Giuliani support without realize his pro-abort position. There was a poll months ago where a fair number of people who initially said they favored Rudy changed their minds once Rudy's positions on social and gun issues were revealed to them.
Correct, wagglebee.
It was John Sears strategy of staying above the fray. Reagan also didn’t announce until Nov 13, 1979.
Which also means Rudy's toast. He has too strong a headwind to sail against - people who DON'T think his views are representative of the GOP.
Oh, and BTW, when that poll I mentioned was taken, Rudy's support was in the high thirties. So apparently a lot of people HAVE found out about Rudy's views.
He's toast.
Teddy Roosevelt DID run as a Republican against Taft who was running as a Republican.
He was a known republican and he called it the Republican Progressives, Bull Moose Party.
In other words, they went right after the Republican vote.
I just got a call from the Thompson campaign. I told them they probably would get my support.
No, I didn’t mean to imply that you, personally, were accusing Fred. But I think Life News allowed itself to be taken in somewhat by the propagandist they are quoting, and their headline is somewhat misleading.
I would attribute it to naivete rather than malice.
They post lots of polls like that in WAnkerville. I think their favorite polls are from a college newspaper in Canada.
They have Rooty Toot up by over 20% and the wankers are cheering how Rooty has the race all locked up.
“Which means only SEVEN PERCENT went against the first statement to still support Rudy.” LOL! In a race in which the next closest contender gets only 17%, SEVEN percent is a big margin! If a candidate wins by 7% in a general election, it is considered a landslide. It is of no concern to me whether or not Giuliani wins the nomination. My concern is with the whackos who would sit out or vote 3rd party, should Giuliani be the nominee. It seems clear to me that isn’t going to happen. So, as long as we don’t have Ron Paul or Newt Gingrich as our candidate, I’m feeling pretty good about our chances.
As for your other poll, it is meaningless to use as a comparison, unless it was conducted by the same pollster using the same standards.
Bottom line. Its a moot point. Fred is going to win the nomination and be the next POTUS. In the process he'll save your butt from the wrath of Rooty. No thanks necessary.
“Teddy Roosevelt DID run as a Republican against Taft who was running as a Republican.
He was a known republican and he called it the Republican Progressives, Bull Moose Party.”
Pssssssssttttt.....This is the 21st century.
I’m a social conservative through and through. I guess that makes me a values voter.
I’ll remember that Mr. Thompson didn’t attend the “Values Voter Debate.”
I’ll remember that he kept his eye on the ball, and didn’t go after the second tier candidates, but rather kept after Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Giuliani instead.
I’d be very disappointed if he attended this third-rate debate.
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