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Starbucks rethinks stance on young customers (Kids giving getting a buzz a new meaning)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20608492/ ^ | 9-10-07 | Allison Linn

Posted on 09/11/2007 6:34:11 AM PDT by Hydroshock

Kamyra L. Harding never gives her son coffee or soda, and rarely opts for treats such as chocolate cupcakes. But about twice a month, the mom does give in to her 4-year-old son Garrett David Brand’s request for a Chai tea latte from Starbucks.

“People here already know us,” Harding said on a recent visit to a Starbucks on New York's Upper West Side. “They know we want extra milk.”

Garrett has been a regular Starbucks customer since “he could hold a cup,” his mother says. Now when he passes a Starbucks he says, “I want to buy this tea.”

Starbucks, keenly aware of the pitfalls of being seen as trying to lure kids to drink sweet, caffeinated beverages, has for years insisted that it does not market to children — even as stroller traffic jams build outside some stores and teenagers pack others.

Now, however, the company is revising its stance on kids, acknowledging that the under-18 set has become part of the coffee chain’s customer base.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caffeine; children; coffee; starbucks
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1 posted on 09/11/2007 6:34:15 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

All I get from there is hot chocolate, during the winter it’s their peppermint hot chocolate.


2 posted on 09/11/2007 6:36:41 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Hydroshock

“Give me 2 tall lattes and 1 ritalin. To go.”


3 posted on 09/11/2007 6:37:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Hydroshock

No worries. These upper west (and east) side kids are probably already on Ritalin, so drink up!


4 posted on 09/11/2007 6:38:59 AM PDT by wilco200
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To: wastedyears
I work with a group of serious caffeine junkies. One guy last week had a large coffee with 4 shots of espresso washed down with a red bull.
5 posted on 09/11/2007 6:39:08 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

Tea does not contain all that much caffeine. The effect is different from coffee. I can drink tea all day and never get strung out. One cup of coffee and I am wired.

Sipping a cup of Golden Nepal-Kanyam Estate 2nd Flush


6 posted on 09/11/2007 6:40:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Hydroshock

That’s m’ boy!


7 posted on 09/11/2007 6:40:27 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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To: Hydroshock

It’s interesting: when I was growing up, coffee seemed to be treated as some kind of dangerous drug that was strictly off-limits to kids. Now they’re all Red Bull junkies. ;)


8 posted on 09/11/2007 6:40:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Hydroshock
One guy last week had a large coffee with 4 shots of espresso washed down with a red bull.

Sounds like he's ready to move on to another product from Columbia.

9 posted on 09/11/2007 6:41:16 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“Here is your coffee Johnny.....and have a good day at school.”


10 posted on 09/11/2007 6:42:32 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: wastedyears

Did you ever get a chance to try Chantico? It was available during 2005 only - got yanked for poor sales.

It was the best hot chocolate EVER. It was like drinking a melted Hershey bar.


11 posted on 09/11/2007 6:42:37 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I joked with them that they will soon be aerosol spraying Ritalin in the office.
12 posted on 09/11/2007 6:42:55 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Hydroshock

If caffeine did anything to me, I’d drink at least one of those daily.


13 posted on 09/11/2007 6:43:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

My dad was a carpenter, he always had coffee in the morning, he started to serve it up to me when I was 6.


14 posted on 09/11/2007 6:44:53 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Xenalyte

I don’t know if I would want to drink melted chocolate. It seems a bit thick to me.


15 posted on 09/11/2007 6:45:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Hydroshock

Good for them. I love the Free Market. :)

a. If you’re stupid enough (as a parent) to let your kid get hopped up on caffeine, you can always give him a Ritalin tab later in the day, Right? *SMIRK*

b. As a parent, you can say “NO” to Starbucks, just as you do to Mountain Dew, or other things you don’t want young children to have. When my boys were teens, they could have junk if they wanted it, but they had to spend their OWN money on it. That kept the Mountain Dew & Cheeto consumption down to a very manageable level.

c. I get the feeling that this author is one step away from calling for regulation of caffeine for kids, which smacks of “Nanny Stater” to me. I’m from a very German family; we had coffee from toddler-hood on, with lots of milk and sugar.

d. Big deal. *SHRUG*


16 posted on 09/11/2007 6:45:20 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: wastedyears

That’s not what it was, only what it tasted like - it was intense. Much the Euro-style drinking chocolate.


17 posted on 09/11/2007 6:46:37 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Xenalyte

Oh, in that case, maybe I would try it.


18 posted on 09/11/2007 6:48:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Think about this: When kids forget their Ritalin, the teachers give them caffeine. It has the same effect although for a shorter period.


19 posted on 09/11/2007 6:48:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Hydroshock

Sweet, mother of pearl!! What a rush!


20 posted on 09/11/2007 6:49:34 AM PDT by Paulus
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To: ClearCase_guy
“Give me 2 tall lattes and 1 ritalin. To go.”

LOL!
21 posted on 09/11/2007 6:50:15 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Hydroshock

I started drinking coffee around the same age 4 or 5. It was mostly milk with a shot of coffee.

Of course that was back in the days of living on a farm and as a kid I did not sit around all day and watch TV. I was too busy playing outside, so any effects of caffeine were burned outside.


22 posted on 09/11/2007 6:52:13 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Xenalyte; All

Mariebelle Aztec Hot Chocolate from Williams-Sonoma is scrumpy! 63% cacao. That’ll get your motor started. :)

It’s at http://www.williams-sonoma.com


23 posted on 09/11/2007 6:53:27 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
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24 posted on 09/11/2007 6:53:58 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: AppyPappy

Ritialin is probably safer than caffeine. I get horrible withdrawal symptoms if I consume even 2 cups of tea a day for a few days and then forget the second cup one day — intense headache to the point of causing me to vomit, and completely disabling me for several hours. With Ritalin, I have zero withdrawal effects — I can take it during the work week and then skip it on the weekends with no problem (and that dosing pattern is often prescribed for kids). I’ve read that lots of kids get headaches on weekends because they have access to caffeinated drinks on school days, but then spend their weekends with parents who won’t provide them with caffeinated drinks.


25 posted on 09/11/2007 6:55:11 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

What kind of tea are you drinking?


26 posted on 09/11/2007 6:56:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Hydroshock

Wow, was the world moving in slow motion for him after that ? (Reminds me of the Futurama episode when Fry drinks 100 cups of coffee bought with his tax return).


27 posted on 09/11/2007 7:01:53 AM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: Hydroshock

This school year, my 13 year-old son’s day begins before 7 am now. He’s becoming a coffee drinker. That’s fine.


28 posted on 09/11/2007 7:03:09 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Hydroshock
“I don’t think anybody’s going to pass a law saying you have to be 18 to get into a Starbucks … so I think it’s just a phenomenon we’re just going to live with,” he said.

You'd be surprised...

29 posted on 09/11/2007 7:07:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Hydroshock

 

I am  terrible about my Starbucks iced coffees.  I will have at least 2 of them every day and I supplement the caffeine with:


Caffeine Content of Stok Black Coffee Shots

Picture of Stok Black Coffee Shots

A 0.44 ounce shot of Stok Black Coffee Creamer contains 40 milligrams of caffeine.

The "non-dairy creamer" shots come from Whitewave foods under the Stok brand. There is a "sweet" version and a non-sweetened version.

Cover of the tub reads "Black coffee shot. Equivalence: 1 shot espresso. 1 svg delivers 40mg caffeine. Limit 2/day. Warning: High Caffeine."


30 posted on 09/11/2007 7:07:29 AM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Lokibob

I discovered those a coupla months ago.

There grrr-rrreat!


31 posted on 09/11/2007 7:10:51 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: Lokibob

Where can I get that????


32 posted on 09/11/2007 7:11:17 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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To: Xenalyte

CHANTICO.....my husband and I would share one of those....that was dessert!


33 posted on 09/11/2007 7:11:38 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character! Being Coddled Destroys Character!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I get horrible withdrawal symptoms if I consume even 2 cups of tea a day for a few days and then forget the second cup one day — intense headache to the point of causing me to vomit, and completely disabling me for several hours.

Same here. I drink a pot of coffee a day. I have my first cup waiting for me as soon as I crawl out of bed at 4:45am and finish the last cup before 10:00am and then I don't drink caffeinated or sweetened beverages the rest of the day. But if I don't have that first cup of coffee, I'll get mind-crushing headaches worse than any hangover I've ever had.

34 posted on 09/11/2007 7:11:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Hydroshock

35 posted on 09/11/2007 7:12:06 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Hydroshock

36 posted on 09/11/2007 7:12:49 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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To: Xenalyte
Did you ever get a chance to try Chantico?

Yeah, I loved that stuff. Its poor sales certainly weren't my fault. ;)

37 posted on 09/11/2007 7:13:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: sitetest
This school year, my 13 year-old son’s day begins before 7 am now. He’s becoming a coffee drinker. That’s fine.

My old man caught me drinking coffee at 13 and whupped me royal with a belt. In his opinion, it was just like beer. For adults only.

38 posted on 09/11/2007 7:13:45 AM PDT by Glenn (Free Venezuela!)
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To: null and void

I buy my stok from a guy on the corner at 9:30 every evening....just kidding...

I get them at a local quick stop gas station. Bet they are in truck stops.

.....Bob


39 posted on 09/11/2007 7:14:59 AM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Hydroshock

That dose would be toxic for most of the population. It sure would be for me!


40 posted on 09/11/2007 7:14:59 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: Hydroshock

“One guy last week had a large coffee with 4 shots of espresso washed down with a red bull.”

Sheesh. That would send me to the toilet for hours.

30 years ago I only knew one kid who drank coffee in high school. He liked to go to the HoJo and drink a whole pot before class.


41 posted on 09/11/2007 7:16:05 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Lokibob

Thanks!


42 posted on 09/11/2007 7:16:21 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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To: Bat_Chemist

I have to have 20oz of french roast in the morning just to get my hear started. I once in high school made a pot for studying for finals, 12 cups of water, 6 no doz, 6 scoops of grounds, and 6 scopps of instant. I was taking an English final essay test and had a page per minute rate that would have made a laser print self conscious.


43 posted on 09/11/2007 7:18:53 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
nope.. caffiene isn't at all dangerous..

44 posted on 09/11/2007 7:23:45 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: Hydroshock

I can just see all those post-preggy, pretty moms pulling up to their local StarStrucks in their pale purple Pious pedal cars and pulling out the Perego P3 luxury stroller for an afternoon pick-me-up with best friend and son, Percy C.


45 posted on 09/11/2007 7:24:43 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Glenn
I was sitting at the table when my then 3 yo son came up and said,

“’zat?”

“It’s coffee.”

“Want some.”

“No you don’t, kids don’t like coffee. It isn’t ‘til you get older and you taste buds change that you’ll like it.”

“Want some!”

*shrug* “OK, but you probably won’t like it.”

I gave him the cup.

A little sip. Contemplative look. Empty cup in a single gulp.

“Want more!”

Mom made him some decaf. One sip, he wrinkled his nose, set it on the table and walked away.

Where does a 3 yo get a taste for coffee, the ability to distinguish regular from unleaded, and a preference????

46 posted on 09/11/2007 7:25:13 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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Dear Glenn,

Well, my family was a little more relaxed about it when I was a kid. I always liked coffee when I was little. My parents frowned on my drinking coffee, but I usually got a little bit here and there. My mother would let me have a little bit of coffee with a lot of milk, or a sip from her cup.

I remember once visiting my grandfather, my mother’s father. He offered me a cup of coffee. I said yes, of course! I don’t think I was more than seven or eight. My mother flipped! “You never let US drink coffee when we were little,” she protested. He gave her a look that seemed to say, “Bug off, will ya? I want to spoil my grandson a little.”

And clearly, she was more miffed that he'd never let her drink it as a little one than she was upset by the idea of letting me drink an entire cup of full-strength coffee.

So, my father and mother conferenced for a bit. They came back with the following decision, “He can have it. But only if he drinks it black!” They figured I’d be put off by the strong, bitter taste of the mud my grandfather brewed. I gleefully accepted. I took a sip. It WAS strong and bitter! It was hard to drink. But I wasn’t going to let on how it assaulted my tastes! I drank the whole cup, much to my parents' dismay.

Thanks, Grandpa!


sitetest

47 posted on 09/11/2007 7:25:30 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: absolootezer0

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48 posted on 09/11/2007 7:27:38 AM PDT by null and void (I have several guns....every sane person should have at least one. ~ Fawn)
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To: Hydroshock

Whether here in New Jersey or down in Miami, Starbucks have effectively become “bars” for our youth. The problem I have is when 15 of them congregate in front sipping their vanilla fraps while they block the door with their skateboards.


49 posted on 09/11/2007 7:31:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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50 posted on 09/11/2007 7:32:17 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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