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S.F. mural depicting 9/11 flight attendant scarred by taggers
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/12/7 | Jim Herron Zamora

Posted on 09/12/2007 8:13:40 AM PDT by SmithL

The only local monument to a heroic flight attendant from San Francisco killed in the Sept. 11 attacks six years ago is a North Beach mural that vandals have defaced almost beyond recognition.

Betty Ong, 45, who grew up in Chinatown and North Beach, was a flight attendant on American Airlines Flight 11, the first plane hijacked by the terrorists. Just minutes before the plane smashed into the World Trade Center, she quietly contacted authorities and gave a detailed description of the hijackers.

Ong is one of several Chinatown natives depicted in a 200-foot-long, 7-foot-tall mural dedicated to Chinese contributions to American history. Titled "Gold Mountain," the mural also includes educators and nurses, Edsel Ford Fong, a waiter made famous by the late Chronicle columnist Herb Caen, and Larry Ching, the "Chinese Frank Sinatra," who was a longtime entertainer at Forbidden City.

Painted by artist Ann Sherry in 1994 on the side of an apartment building on Romolo Place, the mural has been damaged by taggers numerous times. Each time, Sherry, the building's owners and community volunteers have stepped up to perform touchups - and twice to restore the mural completely.

A section for Ong was added in 2003, when the mural was restored the second time. Graffiti-resistant varnish was added, too. But almost immediately, the mural was tagged again. Sherry patched up the mural, but since January, taggers have struck several more times. Sherry kept returning to make repairs but recently found the damage to be worse than ever before.

"This time, the taggers used paint (mixed) with epoxy that we can't just wash out or remove. We have to completely redo the mural," Sherry said. "We started fixing it ... but the taggers get angry if you remove their graffiti and they just tried to ruin it."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911memorial; 911victims; asianamericans; graffiti; hatecrime; memorialdesecration; sanfrancisco; sanfranciscovalues; sanfransicko; sf; sixthanniversary
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1 posted on 09/12/2007 8:13:43 AM PDT by SmithL
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San Francisco Values!


2 posted on 09/12/2007 8:14:18 AM PDT by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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To: SmithL

SF is such a lovely place...


3 posted on 09/12/2007 8:15:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Antoninus

It is so frustrating, these friggin youth gangs and their graffiti. We have raised a younger generation who don’t give a damn about anything or anybody but themselves, and don’t care who the offend or whose property they deface.


4 posted on 09/12/2007 8:16:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Antoninus

Arguably the most beautiful city in the country...except for the inhabitants.


5 posted on 09/12/2007 8:17:13 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: SmithL
Sanctuary City Cesspool.
6 posted on 09/12/2007 8:18:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: SmithL

Taggers should be shot on sight, IMHO. Talk about “dissing” someone, defacing their property ranks right up there.

No-one (except the taggers themselves) wants to look at a bunch of graffiti. It’s the visual equivalent of rap “music.”


7 posted on 09/12/2007 8:18:29 AM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: gcruse

“Arguably the most beautiful city in the country...except for the inhabitants.”

Savannah is far more beautiful, including the inhabitants.


8 posted on 09/12/2007 8:18:48 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: Antoninus

The taggers get angry if you touch their graffiti?

We’re supposed to accomodate these blanking taggers?

They are just expressing themselves?

I’m all in favor of self expression but not when you have to vandalize others property to do it.


9 posted on 09/12/2007 8:19:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: gcruse
Arguably the most beautiful city in the country...except for the inhabitants.

And there's the rub. Beautiful cities attract some of the ugliest people.
10 posted on 09/12/2007 8:20:48 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: SmithL

Yep.

Now ask yourself this: if this were a gay establishment that had been vandalized, what news coverage in S.F., what politician in the local area, what effort by law enforcement would not get mobilized?


11 posted on 09/12/2007 8:20:59 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Too bad it wasn’t a photo of Pelosi.


12 posted on 09/12/2007 8:22:13 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Dilbert San Diego
The taggers get angry if you touch their graffiti?

We’re supposed to accomodate these blanking taggers?

Wonder how they'd feel when I touch them upside the head with a baseball bat real hard?

13 posted on 09/12/2007 8:22:59 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Want authentic 1st century Christianity? Visit a local, New Testament Independent Baptist church!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
“We have raised a younger generation”

I be to differ. WE have left it up to government run schools to raise these Clockwork Orange clones. WE have subsidized single parent families with barely the means to pay for cable TV much less books for the brats. WE have tolerated truancy to a point that it’s not even considered a problem. WE have tolerated drugs in our school yards. I certainly don’t think WE have raised a younger generation. Condemned a younger generation maybe.

14 posted on 09/12/2007 8:23:46 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: gcruse; Antoninus
Arguably the most beautiful city in the country...except for the inhabitants.

OK. I'll argue that!

SF is the only city in the world where I've had to step over dogcrap -and- human vomit on my way to dinner. Even worse than Amsterdam, NYC, Istanbul, Taipei.

If you want to say that the view -of- San Fran, FROM another part of the bay is beautiful, ok, maybe. But up close? Disgusting.

15 posted on 09/12/2007 8:23:54 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Savannah is far more beautiful, including the inhabitants.

Savannah's violent crime rate is much higher than San Francisco's. And I'm afraid no flat, swampy, humid Southern city can compare in beauty to any Pacific coast city, regardless of the political orientation of the respective inhabitants. ;)

16 posted on 09/12/2007 8:28:27 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: SmithL

“Tagging” is the intellectual equivalent of a dog pi**ing on a tree!


17 posted on 09/12/2007 8:36:07 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: sam_paine

if you are unlucky enough you may step over a corpse of a homeless person in the early morning before they are discovered and picked up


18 posted on 09/12/2007 8:40:33 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The difference in income from tourism between SF and Savannah doubtless buttresses your contention mightily.


19 posted on 09/12/2007 8:40:38 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: sam_paine

Uhm, without the inhabitants, which I posited after all, the dogcrap and vomit wouldn’t be there.


20 posted on 09/12/2007 8:41:44 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: gcruse

Wow. That’s very insightful

Without the massive traffic, the potholes wouldn’t be there.

Without the pedestrians, the sidewalks would be traversable.

Without the inhabitants, the city wouldn’t be there.

SF is a beautiful city only as you get far enough away from it.


21 posted on 09/12/2007 8:46:33 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SmithL

San Francisco: home of Nancy Pelosi and Cindy Sheehan :D


22 posted on 09/12/2007 8:46:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: sam_paine

Whatever.


23 posted on 09/12/2007 8:50:25 AM PDT by gcruse (...now I have to feed the dog as if nothing has happened.)
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To: Antoninus; gcruse
And there's the rub. Beautiful cities attract some of the ugliest people.

I think the pattern would be as follows:

1. A beautiful city is built by people who know what they are doing.
2. The beautiful city attracts liberals.
3. The liberals undo everything done in step 1.
4. Sane people flee the emerging ghetto.

24 posted on 09/12/2007 8:51:41 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree because San Fran has always seemed dirty and corrupt to me.

The FBI disagrees with your assertation too that Savannah has a higher crime rate. According to them the crime rate is identical :)

http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/?city1=50667000&city2=51369000


25 posted on 09/12/2007 8:52:24 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: SmithL

My suggestion would be night vision goggles and a sniper rifle. But this is San Francisco we’re talking about; it is probably a city official doing the vandalism.


26 posted on 09/12/2007 8:57:21 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: SmithL

Tagging happens in any metropolitan area, not just in SF. And, in general, taggers have no respect for other peoples property. It demonstrates a moral decline in this country...


27 posted on 09/12/2007 8:58:09 AM PDT by Whiteman
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To: SmithL

Taggers is a euphamism for criminal defacers.


28 posted on 09/12/2007 8:59:27 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: Disambiguator

“Taggers should be shot on sight, IMHO. Talk about “dissing” someone, defacing their property ranks right up there.”

Years ago when we were having problems with tagging, a few neighbors and I went to a city council meeting and brought up the growing epidemic of tagging. We suggested patroling and policing ourselves. I had 2 pairs of night vision goggles, and a neighbor had several paint guns, and we’d simply tag them back! And getting hit by a paint gun will hurt! Well, the city council thought it was a bad idea, though we did get increased police patrol in the area, and the tagging did decline.


29 posted on 09/12/2007 9:01:38 AM PDT by Whiteman
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To: gcruse

Exactly what I was thinking about your post.


30 posted on 09/12/2007 9:04:06 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Whiteman

Reads as though it would have been a great idea, though (’tagging’ the taggers with a paint gun).


31 posted on 09/12/2007 9:09:49 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Whiteman
I had someone tag my stop sign and bridge signs on my street the other night. I went out as soon as I saw it and used non-chlorinated brake cleaner and it came right off. Works like a charm, no scrubbing. Spray on, hose off. I like the paintball idea.
32 posted on 09/12/2007 9:11:04 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I think they are both very beautiful except in Savannah you won’t need motorized transportation to move up and down the 7 steep hills like SF is built upon while visiting the city.


33 posted on 09/12/2007 9:35:07 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob

amen


34 posted on 09/12/2007 9:39:05 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: MarineBrat
“Tagging” is the intellectual social equivalent of a dog pi**ing on a tree!

I'd like to see taggers stripped naked, tied to a post and spray-painted from head to toe. With epoxy paint.

35 posted on 09/12/2007 9:43:30 AM PDT by Max in Utah (O Great and Benevolent Rulers of America: WHERE-IS-OUR-FENCE?!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Wonder how they'd feel when I touch them upside the head with a baseball bat real hard?

My dad used to say this country would get rid of many of its gang problems if whole neighborhoods just went after these guys with baseball bats in hand.

36 posted on 09/12/2007 9:47:53 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Whiteman

Tagging does happen everywhere. But from what I understand, CA has the worst in the nation, especially LA.

In Hong Kong they cane vandals. IMHO, if they got really tough and had some really good punishment in place, they could get a handle on it. Maybe a reward for capture with a successful prosecution, and with a minumum of a year in jail. I bet their “unsolvable” problem would be solved.

But SF is a little too warm and fuzzy for such personal responsibility.


37 posted on 09/12/2007 10:00:18 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Disambiguator
Taggers should be shot on sight

Some would say that's an extreme view. Having lived in Philly where the graffiti was on every vertical surface, I'd say you were being generous. They need to be tortured first.

38 posted on 09/12/2007 10:04:20 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: CJ Wolf

My 3 year old “tagged” my refrigerator with permanent marker and gunk engine cleaner took it off after trying 2 or 3 other things. It stunk up the kitchen so I had to wash off the engine cleaner but it got the permanent marker off like a champ.


39 posted on 09/12/2007 10:07:43 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: SmithL

A .308 round, fired from the closest rooftop into the ass of the next tagger, should solve the problem for the forseeable future.


40 posted on 09/12/2007 10:08:38 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: I still care

Your right about the graffiti in L.A. I took a wrong turn one day and got off on a side street and not only were the buildings and signs “tagged” but the streets and sidewalks were as well!!


41 posted on 09/12/2007 10:10:07 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: gcruse

PLEASE,Don’t put the words”San Francisco”and”buttress”in the same sentence.


42 posted on 09/12/2007 10:14:18 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
a baseball bat real hard?

Louisville Slugger, apply directly to the forehead!

43 posted on 09/12/2007 10:20:10 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No tap dancing allowed in this restroom facility)
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To: Max in Utah
>>“Tagging” is the intellectual social equivalent of a dog pi**ing on a tree!

I'd like to see taggers stripped naked, tied to a post and spray-painted from head to toe. With epoxy paint.

I personally could do without seeing that. :)

I think that it may be somewhat unfair to dogs to compare them socially to taggers. Dogs are socially adept creatures who know devotion to duty, unconditional loyalty, play, joy, sadness, etc. They can "read" your emotions, and they just want to bring joy to the world. (The dog's I've raised are this way anyway) I'm tempted to put dogs a step above taggers in the social realm.

On the other hand, dogs can be pretty stupid... :)

44 posted on 09/12/2007 10:21:02 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: Max in Utah
I'd like to see taggers stripped naked, tied to a post and spray-painted from head to toe. With epoxy paint.

Put it on TV and you've got a guaranteed method of stopping this BS cold inside of 6 months.
45 posted on 09/12/2007 10:23:36 AM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: MarineBrat; Max in Utah
On the other hand, dogs can be pretty stupid... :)

Evidence :) 

46 posted on 09/12/2007 10:28:49 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: SmithL

Taggers’ house/car/possessions should be tagged as a means of punishment.


47 posted on 09/12/2007 10:45:12 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: SmithL

Not suprising. As there is more distance placed by the years from 9/11, not helped by the “9/11 truthers”, the people who have died on that day will not always be remembered, stuff like this is going to happen.


48 posted on 09/12/2007 11:00:50 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Incidences of “tagging” rise in proportion to the illegal immigrant population of the area. We didn’t raise this generation, Mexico did.
49 posted on 09/12/2007 11:21:13 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: SmithL
"We started fixing it ... but the taggers get angry if you remove their graffiti and they just tried to ruin it."

Shoot them down in the street like the rabid dogs that they are.

50 posted on 09/12/2007 11:22:47 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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