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City calls for 10,000 men to combat violence
reuters ^ | Sep 12, 2007 | Jon Hurdle

Posted on 09/12/2007 4:15:45 PM PDT by mdittmar

Philadelphia police and black community leaders called on Wednesday for 10,000 men to volunteer to patrol the streets of America's most dangerous big city in a bid to halt a surge in murders and violent crime.

In an initiative that organizers hope will be copied in other cities, the unarmed and non-uniformed volunteers would patrol selected areas in an attempt to deter drug dealing and other street crimes that have given Philadelphia the highest murder rate among the 10 largest U.S. cities.

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Sylvester Johnson, a key backer of the plan, said it will be officially launched on October 21 with the aim of putting the first patrols on the streets by early November. Volunteers will be asked to patrol for three hours a day for an initial period of 90 days.

"There will be no weapons and no arrests," Johnson told Reuters. "These are not vigilantes. They will be on the streets as peacekeepers."

The effort has similarities to the Guardian Angels group that starting patrolling New York City in 1979. Volunteers, who will be identified with armbands, from any ethnic group will be welcomed, but the force is expected to be largely black because that community accounts for 85 percent of murder victims, Johnson said.

Philadelphia has recorded 294 homicides so far this year, up from 270 for the same period of 2006. For last year as a whole, 406 people, mostly young black men, were killed on the streets of the city, the highest number for nine years.

The violence has continued to rise despite repeated calls by police, civic and community leaders for an end. Community leaders blame joblessness and the drug trade while gun-control advocates blame state lawmakers for failing to pass effective gun laws and for preventing cities such as Philadelphia from enacting their own measures to curb firearms ownership.

Johnson said the plan was initiated by Philadelphia-based record industry mogul Kenny Gamble and is also backed by a group of prisoners-for-life at nearby Graterford maximum-security prison. Those prisoners, though incarcerated, still have influence in the communities they came from and are urging young people there to avoid a life of crime.

"They are saying, 'You don't want to go in that direction. There's no glory in it'," Johnson said.

Dennis Muhammad, a security guard for Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan and a prominent supporter of the plan, said he hoped to attract some of the 80,000 Philadelphia men who attended the 1995 "Million Man March" led by Farrakhan.

"This is the first of its kind in the country," Muhammad said. "We believe that Philadelphia is at such a crisis level that the community is willing to participate in anything that would reduce the number of violent crimes in the city."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: philadelphia; philly; stopsnitching
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Well,you can't argue with that,it would be mean spirited.

Guardian Angels,Nation of Islam,all working for the same goals,right?

1 posted on 09/12/2007 4:15:49 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Be careful what you wish for. oh..wait..this is Philly, not Texas.


2 posted on 09/12/2007 4:17:34 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: mdittmar

Unarmed?

Only a fool would join. I don’t think they have 10,000 fools, even in Philly.


3 posted on 09/12/2007 4:17:38 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: mdittmar

Man, Iraq’s such a quagmire, hellhole.

PHILLY?!! Um, more welfare and hugs for felons, yeah.

Bush sucks.


4 posted on 09/12/2007 4:18:23 PM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: mdittmar

Better to invoke the 2nd Amendment and call out the “unorganized militia”.


5 posted on 09/12/2007 4:18:41 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: mdittmar

Paging General Petraeus....


6 posted on 09/12/2007 4:19:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ("A person's a person no matter how small." -Dr. Seuss)
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To: mdittmar

How about the Minuteman?


7 posted on 09/12/2007 4:20:40 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: mdittmar

Yabbut who’s gonna watch the 10,000 men?


8 posted on 09/12/2007 4:21:07 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: mdittmar
"There will be no weapons and no arrests," Johnson told Reuters. "These are not vigilantes. They will be on the streets as peacekeepers."

Wrong.

They'll be on the streets as TARGETS.

9 posted on 09/12/2007 4:21:40 PM PDT by holymoly (Thompson/Hunter 2008)
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To: proxy_user

Since gus aren’t allowed in Philly, there should be no danger for these 10,000 “unarmed observers”/sarc


10 posted on 09/12/2007 4:22:03 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: mdittmar

hmmm...whatever happened to the 100,000 cops that Clinton conjured up?


11 posted on 09/12/2007 4:22:06 PM PDT by evad
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“the force is expected to be largely black because that community accounts for 85 percent of murder victims”

Who would have guessed?


12 posted on 09/12/2007 4:22:16 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: mdittmar
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
13 posted on 09/12/2007 4:23:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

Good thing I had 3 years of Latin.


14 posted on 09/12/2007 4:24:51 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: mdittmar

The perfect time and place for Murtha to jump in and show us all how it’s done.


15 posted on 09/12/2007 4:25:32 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: mdittmar; Millee; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; null and void; Larry Lucido; Eric Blair 2084
Re: Dennis Muhammad, a security guard for Nation of Islam Minister Louis Farrakhan and a prominent supporter of the plan, said he hoped to attract some of the 80,000 Philadelphia men who attended the 1995 "Million Man March" led by Farrakhan.

Oh, yes... I can see this going to turn out great!

16 posted on 09/12/2007 4:26:04 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: mdittmar

Where the heck are the million men from Farakans march


17 posted on 09/12/2007 4:26:21 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Billthedrill

Nemo.


18 posted on 09/12/2007 4:26:48 PM PDT by patton (Congress would lose money running a brothel.)
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To: holymoly
They'll be on the streets as TARGETS.

Yep
19 posted on 09/12/2007 4:29:55 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: proxy_user
The cops think they are lords and masters and that they should be the only ones armed. Frackin' jerks.

Those prisoners, though incarcerated, still have influence in the communities they came from

That's half the problem right there. If you are locked up for life, why do you have any influence at all? A child will look at that and say, "Wooowww....!"

20 posted on 09/12/2007 4:31:12 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: mdittmar

Sounds like they want to do what Detroit does on Devils Night, every night.


21 posted on 09/12/2007 4:31:39 PM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: mdittmar

I see. The city fathers have decided the solution is to form their gang?

C.W.


22 posted on 09/12/2007 4:32:52 PM PDT by colderwater
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To: mdittmar

What a stupid idea IMHO


23 posted on 09/12/2007 4:33:56 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Never Forget!)
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To: mdittmar
” In an initiative that organizers hope will be copied in other cities, the unarmed and non-uniformed volunteers would patrol selected areas in an attempt to deter drug dealing and other street crimes that have given Philadelphia the highest murder rate among the 10 largest U.S. cities.”

This is a great idea! As long as you can find 10,000 unarmed Buffoons willing to go up against heavily armed gangbangers!

24 posted on 09/12/2007 4:34:01 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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This surge has already failed. Philly is lost, a quagmire. Bush’s fault. He hates blacks...


25 posted on 09/12/2007 4:34:50 PM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: holymoly
Exactly!!!

26 posted on 09/12/2007 4:35:50 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: evad
That’s who is patrolling now!
27 posted on 09/12/2007 4:38:22 PM PDT by momf (Gun control is not about guns; it's about control..(replace the word Gun with any change they want.))
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To: mdittmar

Lieberals won’t do it. They expect the government to do all things. They can’t make a stand for themselves you know.


28 posted on 09/12/2007 4:41:35 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: mdittmar

Philadelphia has recorded 294 homicides so far this year,

in a population of 1,500,000.

Baltimore has had about 220 homicides so far in a city of 650,000 .

Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, we’re more dangerous than Philly. I guess we’re not in the “big” city category any more, if Philadelphia is the most dangerous big city in the US>


29 posted on 09/12/2007 4:46:42 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: mdittmar

Detroit had a similar program back in the late ‘60’s and it was called STRESS. My dad was a lieutenant with the TMU (Tactical Mobile Units) at the time and it was highly successfull. Unfortunately then mayor Soleman Young deemed them racist and had the entire unit disbanded......the rest is history.


30 posted on 09/12/2007 4:55:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No tap dancing allowed in this restroom facility)
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To: mdittmar

Why don’t they just ship their criminals out to tents so they live with the rabid bears. That should a stop to crime.


31 posted on 09/12/2007 4:56:36 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: mdittmar

“unarmed”

lol, didn’t the un send unarmed peacekeepers different places...?


32 posted on 09/12/2007 4:56:44 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: maica

The (Baltimore) Examiner has collated the data on large cities and their homicide stats:

» Homicide comparisons: Boston (559,000 population), 47 homicides; Newark, N.J. (274,000), 66; Washington D.C. (551,000), 126; Philadelphia (1.5 million), 285; New York (8.1 million), 311

» Homicides per 100,000 residents: Baltimore, 33; Newark, 24; Washington, 23; Philadelphia, 19; Boston, 8; New York, 4


33 posted on 09/12/2007 4:56:51 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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"There will be no weapons and no arrests,"

Hey you! Yes, I'm pointing at you! Stop it right now or you're going to be sorry!

34 posted on 09/12/2007 4:57:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No tap dancing allowed in this restroom facility)
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To: maica

NYC: 325 murders in a city of 8,000,000 as of Labor Day. (yawn)


35 posted on 09/12/2007 4:59:10 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Hot Tabasco

They can be successful,depends on who are running them.


36 posted on 09/12/2007 5:02:09 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar

RIOT ACT


37 posted on 09/12/2007 5:02:54 PM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: TexanToTheCore

oh..wait..this is Philly, not Texas.

Are you sure they aren’t talking about Iraq???


38 posted on 09/12/2007 5:05:59 PM PDT by buck61
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Volunteers, who will be identified with armbands, from any ethnic group will be welcomed, but the force is expected to be largely black because that community accounts for 85 percent of murder victims unarmed white guys don't live very long in the 'hood at night, Johnson said.
39 posted on 09/12/2007 5:12:38 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: mdittmar
AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment XIV, Section 1.
...No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States...

40 posted on 09/12/2007 5:13:37 PM PDT by AwesomePossum
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To: NativeNewYorker

We are all jealous of NY!


41 posted on 09/12/2007 5:15:31 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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Maybe that many men would help. It’s worth a try. Besides it’s our country and the cities our families live in. Why shouldn’t we all pitch in to try and help? It will bond a lot of people and maybe working together they will all understand each of them want the same for their families...safety and the right to be someplace without being assaulted in some way. I hope this works for everyone. Bring the good guys together and take the bad guys off the streets!!! Sounds good to me and I wish them all well and Gods speed!


42 posted on 09/12/2007 5:17:48 PM PDT by cubreporter
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Let's all hope so.

The Guardian Angels and the Minutemen will be welcomed soon.

43 posted on 09/12/2007 5:23:40 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar
the unarmed and non-uniformed volunteers would patrol selected areas in an attempt to deter drug dealing and other street crimes that have given Philadelphia the highest murder rate among the 10 largest U.S. cities.

What are they gonna use, harsh language?

44 posted on 09/12/2007 5:30:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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Yep, and its all those IL-LAY-GUL aliens committing all of those murders in Balto, DC, and Philly. /sarcasm.
45 posted on 09/12/2007 5:35:06 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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They elected a stupid mayor, he probably got 10,000 votes.

I really think they should just say 10,000 women. How sexist to ask for men.

They will go out after dark with no weapons, and they will go into the absolutely roughest areas. These women could go in patrols of three or four. Just think what this would do for equality.


46 posted on 09/12/2007 5:51:14 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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They are having meetings with each other.

And just like the alleged “million” man march, no whites need apply.


47 posted on 09/12/2007 5:53:42 PM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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“The violence has continued to rise despite repeated calls by police, civic and community leaders for an end.”

Gee, I don’t understand...you mean ‘community leaders’ have repeatedly asked criminals to stop being violent, and the gang-bangers aren’t heeding their pleas? Who could ever imagine that? /s


48 posted on 09/12/2007 6:57:40 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Viking Kitties!)
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To: mdittmar
""There will be no weapons and no arrests," Johnson told Reuters. "These are not vigilantes. They will be on the streets as peacekeepers target practice."

There, fixed it :)

Guardian Angels vs Nation of Islam sounds like some kind of WWE cage match.

49 posted on 09/12/2007 7:21:51 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Midnight Hallway Hockey scores: Cats 3-Humans 0)
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To: mdittmar
Philadelphia is a quagmire and we must get out as quickly as possible.
50 posted on 09/13/2007 4:38:36 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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