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Paul Poses Serious Threat to Hillary Clinton in a General Election Match up
USA daily ^ | 9/12/07 | Larry Fester

Posted on 09/12/2007 9:43:11 PM PDT by traviskicks

Analysis: The antiwar Republican congressman from Texas poses a serious threat to Hillary Clinton and potential Democratic rivals in the general election.

The presidential race has to a great extent turned into a two issue campaign, immigration and the war in Iraq. Democratic candidates are capitalizing on popular antiwar sentiments among the public but are swimming up stream by apparently supporting President Bush’s policy of turning a blind eye toward illegal immigration and unsecured borders.

Republicans running for president, unless sentiments change, are generally positioned against public opinion with their support for the war, however, they are riding the tide of public opinion when it comes to securing the borders and stopping illegal immigration and terrorists from entering the country. (Even if half of them are faking it)

Two Presidential candidates, Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul, clearly support protecting U.S. borders from illegal immigration and terrorist attacks. Both candidates have opposed President Bush’s seeming support of the Council On Foreign Relations plans to replace the United States with a North American Union by integrating North America and erasing national boundaries.

Ron Paul sets himself apart from other Republicans by being decidedly antiwar. In a general election this may actually put Paul at a decided advantage over Hillary Clinton and most of her Democratic rivals. Paul will likely steal the thunder from Clinton’s antiwar rhetoric since he voted against the Iraq war that Hillary Clinton voted for.

At least among those voters that believe the Iraq war was a mistake, including Democrats, Paul will demonstrate his foresight was better than Clinton’s.

In a general election on the issue of protecting U.S. borders, Paul would likely ride public opinion with his support for protecting U.S. borders while Clinton would be positioned against public opinion.

Paul is generally considered more credible with his popular positions on the war and immigration than his Democratic rivals.

Paul certainly isn’t the only Republican that would give Clinton a run for her money he is however, the only Republican that would be getting energized support from both Republican and the Democratic base voters.

Of course, winning the Republican primary is still an uphill battle at this point, unless of course Paul can effectively argue that he is the most likely Republican to win a general election, which only GOP primary voters can decide.


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lol, so this should generate some lively discussion.

One hypothetical question to people strongly opposed to Ron Paul; since Hillary is more so-called 'pro war' and 'pro-troops', (Paul was against the war from the beginning while Hillary was initially for it and Paul has said he would bring the troops home right away and out of the entire ME, while Hillary wants to 'withdraw', but without a timetable, and believes permanent ME bases are necessary), so my question is how many Freepers would vote for Hillary over Paul if it came down to it? In other words, how serious are you folks about this foreign policy issue vs Paul's exemplary, IMO, domestic agenda?
1 posted on 09/12/2007 9:43:12 PM PDT by traviskicks
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To: traviskicks

The writer’s last name is Fester.. his topic is Ron Paul..

‘nuff said..


2 posted on 09/12/2007 9:44:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: George W. Bush

ping


3 posted on 09/12/2007 9:44:36 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge

Heck, I thought this would be about Peter Paul.


4 posted on 09/12/2007 9:45:26 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

thoughts? (from a purely political perspective)


5 posted on 09/12/2007 9:47:06 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: doug from upland
Heck, I thought this would be about Peter Paul.

Now you have done it. I am craving an Almond Joy.

6 posted on 09/12/2007 9:47:29 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: traviskicks

LOL!


7 posted on 09/12/2007 9:47:34 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: doug from upland

Just what Hillary doesn’t need, a new new threat. lolol


8 posted on 09/12/2007 9:50:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: traviskicks

Dangit... Why is it that the Friday Silliness Thread is starting so early in the week?

Am I in the top ten at least?


9 posted on 09/12/2007 9:50:43 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: traviskicks
Paul Poses Serious Threat to Hillary Clinton in a General Election Match up

So, in kooksville fantasy land.

10 posted on 09/12/2007 9:51:34 PM PDT by xjcsa (Hillary Clinton is nothing more than Karl Marx with huge calves.)
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To: traviskicks

Haha ...


11 posted on 09/12/2007 9:51:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: NormsRevenge

Was Fester the one with the arrow clean through his neck?


12 posted on 09/12/2007 9:51:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: End Times Crusader

ping (blacklist opportunity) :)


13 posted on 09/12/2007 9:51:51 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

I would vote for Charles Manson before Paul or Hitlery.... whoops spelling..... Kankles.

Either way, Manson is more sane than Paul and more trustworthy than the queen, “Her Fat Ankles”


14 posted on 09/12/2007 9:53:00 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: traviskicks
NOW I see why Paul is so low in every single poll--it's intentional, he's telling people NOT to support him now so he can surprise Hillary in the general election. Fiendishly clever!

Maybe he and HRC should be on the same ticket. She certainly agrees with him on the war more than most Republicans do.

15 posted on 09/12/2007 9:53:34 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: traviskicks

“Paul Poses Serious Threat to Hillary Clinton in a General Election Match up”

Aliens pose serious threats to US.

Just a likely also.


16 posted on 09/12/2007 9:53:39 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: Petronski

koolaid ping :)


17 posted on 09/12/2007 9:54:30 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: crazyshrink

Aliens as in those from outer space that is........


18 posted on 09/12/2007 9:54:45 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: traviskicks
The antiwar Republican congressman from Texas poses a serious threat to Hillary Clinton and potential Democratic rivals in the general election

LOL, yeah, all the moonbats would vote for him instead. It's a pity primary ballots are partisan. I would love it if the rats could vote for Paul in the primary.

19 posted on 09/12/2007 9:55:05 PM PDT by chaos_5 (The Democrats are Communists)
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To: traviskicks

After reading many opinions here I suspect the majority of posters at FR would support Hillary over Paul.


20 posted on 09/12/2007 9:55:47 PM PDT by MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
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To: NormsRevenge
"The writer’s last name is Fester.. his topic is Ron Paul.."

Oooorrraaahhh Norm! Lol.
21 posted on 09/12/2007 9:55:59 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is the left’s plan(Fester’s) for dividing the Republican base?

LOL..Ron Paul ain’t no Ross Perot...OK...LOL.

The media wants to hype him(like they did McCain)....

‘nuff said’


22 posted on 09/12/2007 9:56:55 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall

Firtunately, it is extremely doubtful that will come to fruition.


23 posted on 09/12/2007 9:57:06 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: traviskicks
Breaking News - Ron Paul is at 1% nationally according to Gallup down from his super high of 3%. Now that is a surge!
24 posted on 09/12/2007 9:58:26 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: traviskicks

25 posted on 09/12/2007 9:58:39 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: traviskicks
Analysis: The antiwar Republican Libertarian looneytoon congressman from Texas poses a serious threat to Hillary Clinton and potential Democratic rivals in the general election.

There, it's now accurate.

26 posted on 09/12/2007 9:58:50 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: traviskicks

Fester is an idiot.


27 posted on 09/12/2007 9:59:24 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (If you see a phrase used 400,000 times on FR, jump right in and use it too.)
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To: lormand

mullah picture ping :)


28 posted on 09/12/2007 9:59:35 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

LOL.

Well, there’s a Larry Fester who’s given money to Emily’s List. Not sure if this is the same guy, but, what the heck, here’s the link for the last couple years:

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=2P9VA&txtName=fester&txtState=(all%20states)&txt2008=Y&txt2006=Y&Order=N


29 posted on 09/12/2007 10:00:48 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: Ouderkirk

Thorazine ping :)


30 posted on 09/12/2007 10:01:48 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Was Fester the one with the arrow clean through his neck?

In the movie I think, not sure about the tv series.


31 posted on 09/12/2007 10:02:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Go to sleep, Norm!

It's past your bed time!

:)

32 posted on 09/12/2007 10:02:34 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: LasVegasMac

Done! :-)


33 posted on 09/12/2007 10:04:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: crazyshrink

Which candidate would you support given the choice between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Paul?


34 posted on 09/12/2007 10:04:36 PM PDT by MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
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To: traviskicks

Would be an interesting campaign. IMHO there is no presidential candidate more passionate on the issues of restoring/preserving the individual rights and liberties of citizens, nor more opposed to taxes, budget deficits and big government than Ron Paul.

If Iraq were not an issue in this election, and hopefully it won’t be forever, I think Ron Paul would be an unbeatable candidate. It may be 2012 or some later time when voters look back and wish they had voted for him.


35 posted on 09/12/2007 10:06:56 PM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL!

I just remembered, it was Doc with the arrow in his neck and Fester was telling the marshall. It was in the song.


36 posted on 09/12/2007 10:08:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall

Mr. Paul is not going to win the GOP nomination. That’s like saying Kucinich will win the Dem nod. It’s not a player.


37 posted on 09/12/2007 10:08:47 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: jazusamo

I was thinking of the Addams Family, ooops that’s Uncle Fester too, huh? lol


38 posted on 09/12/2007 10:10:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: traviskicks
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"Hey Fester. Dude can I get me a 1/2 bag of this Elle Momo for my brother Roger?"

39 posted on 09/12/2007 10:12:30 PM PDT by RoadKingSE
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To: traviskicks

Hillary vs Paul? That’s easy. There’s a little Italian village I know well. Far from the reaches of government and jihadis. I’ll move there and wait it out. There is lots to do in the area, and I could write the great American novel. If America survives whichever fool gets elected I’ll move back after the term is over, maybe.


40 posted on 09/12/2007 10:14:15 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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To: eyedigress

I’m not saying that Congressman Paul will win the GOP nomination, I’m just asking which candidate most FR posters would support - Hillary or Dr. Paul?


41 posted on 09/12/2007 10:15:29 PM PDT by MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall

Well, No FReeper is going to support Hillary, but you could put any freak in there and get the same response. It’s an argument that is irrelevant. (To me anyway) :^)


42 posted on 09/12/2007 10:18:21 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: traviskicks

As of post #39 no one has answered the question.


43 posted on 09/12/2007 10:18:38 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
Count me in for Paul over hillroy.
44 posted on 09/12/2007 10:19:24 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

We used to leave those images on ground to air radios all over the place. That’s a hoot. ;^)


45 posted on 09/12/2007 10:24:14 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: traviskicks

its just not realistic enough to be a hypothetical, plus we’d find a pro-war independent somewhere


46 posted on 09/12/2007 10:26:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Wal-Mart Respect Enforcement Department)
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
"Which candidate would you support given the choice between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Paul?"

Neither. It is a mute point because Hillary will probably win the dem nomination if Hsu does not derail her and Ron Paul stands no chance of winning the GOP nomination. My cat would attract more republican voters than Ron Paul. He is smarter, tougher and is more like-able.
47 posted on 09/12/2007 10:27:47 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: eyedigress

I may have made the question too tied to the personalities in question. Whose positions do you support, Hillaries or the Congressman’s? Limited or unlimited goverment?


48 posted on 09/12/2007 10:30:47 PM PDT by MirrorMirrorOnTheWall
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To: traviskicks

Uncle Fester! Been wondering what you've been up to lately!


49 posted on 09/12/2007 10:33:12 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (FRED!)
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To: MirrorMirrorOnTheWall

Limited government, I’d vote for Ron Paul over Hillary. However, I’d probably deeply regret it if Ron Paul won, mostly because it’s great to have ideas, it stinks when you can’t field a team to do anything with them. And he’s as charismatic as my stamp collection - great for a stamp fan, just glue and paper to any normal person.


50 posted on 09/12/2007 10:38:25 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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