Skip to comments.SEN. CLINTON'S SLUR : Moveon.org NY Times Anti-Military Ad Charged Less Than Half Usual Price
Posted on 09/13/2007 9:34:20 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
Sen. Hillary Clinton yesterday found herself positioned firmly to the left of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi regarding that disgusting New York Times/MoveOn "General Betray Us" attack on Gen. David Petraeus' integrity.
That's not an enviable position for a woman who's trying to convince the American people that she's fit to be president of the United States.
Further complicating her life was the position former Mayor Rudy Giuliani took yesterday on the general, the importance of victory in Iraq and . . . the truth. You couldn't ask for a more stark contrast at this stage in a possible Giuliani-Clinton presidential face-off.
At issue was the MoveOn ad, published in Monday's Times, attacking Petraeus' honor as a man and as a soldier.
How disgusting was it?
Even Pelosi, one of the most left-wing speakers ever, said she'd have "preferred that they won't do such an ad."
But Clinton not only couldn't bring herself to criticize it, she also attacked Petraeus' honesty: "The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief," she huffed to the general Tuesday.
And she slammed him (and Ambassador Ryan Crocker) as "de facto spokesmen for a failed policy," pointedly refusing to criticize the ad - which called him an outright liar who'd "betray" his nation.
Giuliani, by contrast, had it exactly right.
He called the MoveOn ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics."
Added America's Mayor: "The failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money MoveOn.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, is unfortunate."
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
To the tune of more than $116,000.
MoveOn yesterday confirmed that it paid just $65,000 for the full-page missive - compared to what a Times spokesman said is usually $181,000 for such ads.
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Golly, I’ll bet you wrote that headline yourself. BTW, it’s confusing.
It is what you know... but WHO you know. Moveon is a hate group that the left is proud to have supporting each Dim Presidential Front runners......
don’t forget these type of things when you go to voting booth.
Uh, wouldn't the 'willing suspension of DISbelief' mean that I am willing to believe whatever you say?
They are pro terrorist.
I wonder why they would want or even need to subsidize it - has Soros’ money dried up or something?
It’s pretty funny how that ad hasn’t accomplished its intended goal, but rather has further split the democrats - many of whom realize that it was the wrong thing to do.
I say, keep it up, Moveon, and show the country exactly what YOUR democrats are made of! The more grotesque it becomes, the faster the sane folks will run from you, and I truly believe there are some sane Dems asking where their party is being taken. Over a cliff, if they follow Moveon.
You’re right on— kinda like the use of double negatives- so popular in ebonics- it has the opposite intended meaning-
They don't ... the NY Slimes went over to the dark side
in the early Clinton years, some 15 years ago.
The smartest woman in the world makes a lot of mistakes.
“Moveon.org NY Times Anti-Military Ad Charged Less Than Half Usual Price”
This got discussed on Fox News this morning.
I bet this is some “free advertizing” the NY Times doesn’t want.
Especially if some liberal groups learn they didn’t get the same
discount from the NY Times.
Or as big of a discount!
Yeah thats true she should have said belief... not disbelief...
If you are a Democrat and the Subject is Iraq you are alreadying willingly suspending belief because to you your mind is made up and America lost the day after it went in but only because the CINC is George W. Bush... If the CINC was a Libeal you can bet by now the left would have had that one engraved on Rushmore...
What a brainless twat.
If Rooty disagrees with her on one single issue now he will make amends and come around to her point of view soon.
And this is from the ‘smartest woman in the world”!
I find the Democrats cowardice to be amazing. The are too cowardly to even stand up to the fringe groups in their own party. How could we expect them to have the honor and courage required to fight a war?
She is as dumb as a box of rocks, and thankfully this will become more apparent to all as she speaks to the public unfiltered by softball interviewers and re-takes.
They were on the dark side long,long before that.
Was Hillary's statement at the hearing actually an attempt to intimidate our higher levels of military leadership and thus cripple Iraq War military leadership? Basically sending out a message that, if she is elected, military leaders supporting Petraeus will be punished and those "actively" opposing him (ex. the Centcom commander)will be rewarded.
Think of this for a moment: OK, just for the sake of discussion, say Mrs. Clinton wins The White House in 2008, now what is she going to say in her Memorial Day address at Arlington National Cemetery that won’t be insulting to America’s fighting men and women?
One heckuva commander-in-chief. God help us.
Obviously a political bias at the Times but I wonder if the deal they made also reflects their worsening revenue picture.
Think of this: Put her in the CIC seat right now,the General reports to her “things are going good” and she replies “You’re lying!”
HA Yeah, then she further proceeds to tell him he’s fighting the wrong war....
SEMPER FI and GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS
“Willing suspension of disbelief” is what you do when you watch a movie or read a book. It means allowing yourself to pretend to believe in what you know is a fantasy. It’s a pretty standard phrase, not ebonic at all.
What Hillary meant was that she’d have to use that technique in order to believe Petraeus’s ‘fantasy’ or ‘lie.’ Rather ironic, considering the source.
BTW, doesn’t PETRAEUS mean “The Rock”? If so, how apt!
Petraeus should be able to sue them (bowelmovement.org) and the times for libel or slander. He isn’t a public figure per se. He is an employee of the US gov’t.
I really pray that America is smarter than to elect someone totally unelectable. One thing I can’t really believe America is ready for is “the first lady” being a Man, and that man in particular, being philanderer and rapist, Bill Clinton.
Negative. It's a common term among PC gamers and has roots that go WAY back.......she was just trying to dazzle people with her brilliance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief
Wow that was enlightening... So she really did mean to call General Patreaus a LIAR flat out...
In other words General to believe what you are saying would mean that we must forgo what we (Democrats) KNOW is truth, meaning that the War is lost, there is no solution other then complete withdraw for which we want to blame Bush. But as he refuses to budge on this then when I become President I may have to make a real decision and in doing so may be held accountable for that decision by history... i.e., like how my husband will be regarded as a philanderer who’s indescretion’s by receiving a BJ while on duty and then lying about it to America during an investigation allowed him to take his mind off the ball and allowed an Islamic Terror group to plan an attack on America that killed nearly 3000 citizens.... to believe otherwise I must be expected to willingly suspend disbelief.
I get it now
I think we have a predicament.
“willing suspension of disbelief”
I didn’t know nothing about that being a ‘standard’ phrase’- thanks for the head’s up!