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SEN. CLINTON'S SLUR : Moveon.org NY Times Anti-Military Ad Charged Less Than Half Usual Price
New York Post ^ | 09/13/2007 | NY Post Editorial

Posted on 09/13/2007 9:34:20 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

Sen. Hillary Clinton yesterday found herself positioned firmly to the left of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi regarding that disgusting New York Times/MoveOn "General Betray Us" attack on Gen. David Petraeus' integrity.

That's not an enviable position for a woman who's trying to convince the American people that she's fit to be president of the United States.

Further complicating her life was the position former Mayor Rudy Giuliani took yesterday on the general, the importance of victory in Iraq and . . . the truth. You couldn't ask for a more stark contrast at this stage in a possible Giuliani-Clinton presidential face-off.

At issue was the MoveOn ad, published in Monday's Times, attacking Petraeus' honor as a man and as a soldier.

How disgusting was it?

Even Pelosi, one of the most left-wing speakers ever, said she'd have "preferred that they won't do such an ad."

But Clinton not only couldn't bring herself to criticize it, she also attacked Petraeus' honesty: "The reports that you provide to us really require the willing suspension of disbelief," she huffed to the general Tuesday.

And she slammed him (and Ambassador Ryan Crocker) as "de facto spokesmen for a failed policy," pointedly refusing to criticize the ad - which called him an outright liar who'd "betray" his nation.

Giuliani, by contrast, had it exactly right.

He called the MoveOn ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics."

Added America's Mayor: "The failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money MoveOn.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, is unfortunate."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ads; clinton; democrats; hillary; liberaldiscount; moveon; moveonorg; newyorktimes; nyt; patraeus; petraeus; petraeusreport
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Meanwhile, the Times' own complicity in the despicable slur turns out to be even worse than imagined: Not only did the newspaper agree to run the libel, it apparently subsidized the hard-left sewer rats who wrote it.

To the tune of more than $116,000.

MoveOn yesterday confirmed that it paid just $65,000 for the full-page missive - compared to what a Times spokesman said is usually $181,000 for such ads.

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1 posted on 09/13/2007 9:34:24 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

Golly, I’ll bet you wrote that headline yourself. BTW, it’s confusing.


2 posted on 09/13/2007 9:36:29 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SirLinksalot

It is what you know... but WHO you know. Moveon is a hate group that the left is proud to have supporting each Dim Presidential Front runners......

don’t forget these type of things when you go to voting booth.


3 posted on 09/13/2007 9:38:25 AM PDT by JFC
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To: SirLinksalot
willing suspension of disbelief

Uh, wouldn't the 'willing suspension of DISbelief' mean that I am willing to believe whatever you say?

4 posted on 09/13/2007 9:38:50 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: SirLinksalot
From Mayor Ed Koch:

"...In my opinion, the Democratic candidates declined to denounce MoveOn because they fear themselves becoming the victims of a similar onslaught from the radical left. This is a cowardly position, which I hope they will rethink. It takes more than intelligence to be a good or great president. It takes integrity and courage, as well."

DEMOCRATS SHOULD CONDEMN MOVEON
5 posted on 09/13/2007 9:39:59 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ozzymandus
Golly, I’ll bet you wrote that headline yourself. BTW, it’s confusing.

The Clinton Slur headline was the NY POST Headline. I appended the NY Times subsidiy information because IT IS NOTEWORTHY.
6 posted on 09/13/2007 9:42:11 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: JFC
Dims are not anti-war.

They are pro terrorist.

7 posted on 09/13/2007 9:43:40 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Hazcat

Yes.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 9:43:53 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: SirLinksalot

I wonder why they would want or even need to subsidize it - has Soros’ money dried up or something?

It’s pretty funny how that ad hasn’t accomplished its intended goal, but rather has further split the democrats - many of whom realize that it was the wrong thing to do.

I say, keep it up, Moveon, and show the country exactly what YOUR democrats are made of! The more grotesque it becomes, the faster the sane folks will run from you, and I truly believe there are some sane Dems asking where their party is being taken. Over a cliff, if they follow Moveon.


9 posted on 09/13/2007 9:46:03 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: Hazcat

You’re right on— kinda like the use of double negatives- so popular in ebonics- it has the opposite intended meaning-


10 posted on 09/13/2007 9:46:14 AM PDT by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: JFC
Moveon is a hate group that the left is proud to have supporting each Dim Presidential Front runners......

Actually, I found the fact that the New York Times would charge LESS THAN HALF the price for an ad that size to Moveon.org EVEN MORE NEWSWORTHY.

The Times should not even pretend to be an objective newspaper anymore. I bet they'd charge FULL PRICE if an organization supporting the troops wanted to have a half-page ad placed on their paper.

And you "wonder" why the Times supports McCain-Feingold... of course they do. In the last months of an election, they would have a virtual monopoly of their editorializing in the media.
11 posted on 09/13/2007 9:46:32 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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Giuliani, by contrast, had it exactly right. He called the MoveOn ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics."

There are more disgusting things. The leftwing mayor running for president as a conservative or even a Republican comes to mind.
12 posted on 09/13/2007 9:49:01 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Hazcat
Uh, wouldn't the 'willing suspension of DISbelief' mean that I am willing to believe whatever you say?

She was mangling the phrase "willful suspension of disbelief".
13 posted on 09/13/2007 9:50:28 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Temple Owl

ping


14 posted on 09/13/2007 9:56:14 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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To: SirLinksalot
The Times should not even pretend to be an objective newspaper anymore.

They don't ... the NY Slimes went over to the dark side
in the early Clinton years, some 15 years ago.

15 posted on 09/13/2007 9:56:35 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: George W. Bush

The smartest woman in the world makes a lot of mistakes.


16 posted on 09/13/2007 9:57:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: SirLinksalot

“Moveon.org NY Times Anti-Military Ad Charged Less Than Half Usual Price”

This got discussed on Fox News this morning.
I bet this is some “free advertizing” the NY Times doesn’t want.

Especially if some liberal groups learn they didn’t get the same
discount from the NY Times.
Or as big of a discount!


17 posted on 09/13/2007 9:58:25 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Hazcat

Yeah thats true she should have said belief... not disbelief...

If you are a Democrat and the Subject is Iraq you are alreadying willingly suspending belief because to you your mind is made up and America lost the day after it went in but only because the CINC is George W. Bush... If the CINC was a Libeal you can bet by now the left would have had that one engraved on Rushmore...


18 posted on 09/13/2007 9:59:43 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (“Show me just what Obama brought that was new, and there you will find only evil and Hillary.")
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To: SirLinksalot
Hillary has been on a roll the last few days as far as saying stupid things goes. She was at a pro illegal alien rally saying Jesus Christ would have been an "illegal immigrant" if he were alive today. (except she said it in Spanish through a translator)

What a brainless twat.

19 posted on 09/13/2007 10:01:19 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: SirLinksalot
“You couldn’t ask for a more stark contrast at this stage in a possible Giuliani-Clinton presidential face-off.”

If Rooty disagrees with her on one single issue now he will make amends and come around to her point of view soon.

20 posted on 09/13/2007 10:05:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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