Posted on 09/13/2007 12:07:41 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said Thursday he is asking the New York Times for the "same heavily discounted rate they gave MoveOn.org," for his campaign to run an ad in Friday's paper.
Giuliani, calling MoveOn.org's controversial "General Betray Us" ad "abominable," said his campaign is asking the paper for a comparable rate for an ad to run following the President Bush's speech on Iraq. The New York Post reported that MoveOn.org paid less than 40 percent of the regular ad rate.
The former mayor said his ad "will obviously take the opposite view" from MoveOn.org, which argued in its ad that Gen. David Petraeus is "cooking the books" on Iraq and cherry picking facts that support his recommendation to keep a large number of troops in Iraq for some time.
Giuliani continued to include Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in his criticisms for her saying that it would take "a willing suspension of disbelief" to accept at face value Gen. David Petraeus report on the situation in Iraq. Giuliani interpreted Clinton's remarks at a hearing earlier this week as questioning the general's integrity.
"We think that her attack on Gen. Petraeus was a follow-up to the MoveOn.org/Times attack," Giuliani told reporters in Atlanta.
Giuliani reiterated that he agrees with Petraeus's assessment of the Iraq War, and called MoveOn.org's ad attacking "an American general in a time of war" unprecedented.
"It's time for Americans to really assist that American politicians move beyond character assassination," Giuliani said. "And this is exactly what they tried to do with Gen. Petraeus. Well, it's one thing when politicians do it to each other. It's another thing when it's done to an American general who has put his life at risk to protect us."
MoveOn.org Gets MASSIVE Discount Rate for 'Betray Us' Advocacy Ad
Fat chance.
Dont hold your breath Rudy. The Slimes never liked you.
Sean’s reading this right now.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Even if they disclose one I am sure it will be a lie. For all we know the Slimes ran it for free.
As much as I despise Guiliani, every once in a while he pulls something like this that makes me smile...
Good move..
And imagine, this woman wants to be Commander in Chief. How would she respond to other military officers if she were President? This woman cannot be trusted to run a vacuum cleaner much less the United States.
I still wouldn’t vote for him, but I’ll give Rudy points for this.
I like the idea, but I’d find another way to do it.
Why pump $65,000 dollars or any amount into that floater?
I hope he calls the Dims what they are; UnAmerican; who aid and abet our enemy in Iraq.
Exactly why I hope Giulani gets the nomination.
He will clearly be the toughest in executing the WOT.
Credit where credit is due for Mr. G. If the Slimes doesn’t sell his campaign the discounted ad space, I hope he can get a LOT of media mileage out of the Slimes’ refusal to do so.
And, if the mayor manages to strongarm the Slimes into the discount rate? Bravo! Whatever ad he’d run there in support of our troops and their mission would get a lot of attention. It’s not only good campaign strategy, it’s good for America. He may not be my candidate, but he gets props from me for this.
When Rudy’s right, he’s right.
Good for him.
Rudy is about the only one thus far that’s really taking issue with this!!!!! NYSlimes had better give him the same rate as they gave enemies of America!!!!
agreed
Maybe at $65,000 it costs them money to run the ad?
Bravo, Rudy!
Shweeet. Good move.
Actually, I’m pretty sure I read someplace that newspapers and other media outlets *must* charge the same rate for political ads. By law.
Could be that the NYT may get to sell a whole *lot* of pages at that rate. [snicker]
I’m glad someone called the Slimes on this. I’m pretty sick of the libs getting by with treachery. Go Rudy! I’m may not vote for you but I am with you on this one!
RUDY!!! WTG, take on the beasts.
Well, it doesn't matter, because we all know Rudy=Hillary - Rudy kills babies, Rudy will Personally lead the raid on YOUR house to take your guns, & etc. /sarc/
Have you, by chance, seen the video of this? No way it is extemp. She delivers it in a halting and stilted way, showing it was rehearsed and not at all responsive to the testimony. That may because she is all about beliefs, anyway. don’t bother her with facts.
I think the New York Times has screwed itself. My understanding is that media outlets are required, by law, to charge political campaign ads no more than the best rate they have offered to other advertising. It seems the New York Times just cut their across the board adverstising rate to all campaigns by 60%. I hope every campaign runs in and takes advantage of the new, bargain basement pricing.
MoveOn.Org is a left wing group. Laws and ethics don’t apply to them.
Good move by Guiliani. The average non-news-junky (even the Democrats) in America will be able to see the contrast between the far left America despisers and everyone else.
So, when will Pinch Sulzberger’s name be familiar to the non-news-junky?
I can’t wait to see the thirs quarter balance sheet for the Slimes now... HA!
Agreed! It’s a win-win situation for Mr G on this one.
Rudy is about the only one thus far that’s really taking issue with this!!!!!
Rudy is going what he has always done:
Lead.
Then let’s buy up some adds... LOL
With a name like "Eli Pariser," now to be called "Eli Parasite," MoveOn PAC's director should have thought twice before calling a distinguished soldier "General Betray Us." Please feel free to COPY (not link, it uses my bandwidth) the following.
Here is what MoveOn says about Catholics:
That’s what I was thinking. Buy an add, put the Alger Hiss worshipers out of business.
I wonder if such a challenge can be brought at the FEC.
Still, its a good move on Giuliani's part, even if the New York Times ignores his demand, which they probably will. Like most conservatives, I'm hoping that the despicable Moveon.org attack ad against General Petraeus - as run in the New York Times for a discounted rate - will wake up many apathetic Americans and show them who they are really voting for when they vote 'Democrat'.
The general has been viciously and unfairly dissed by the left that now controls the Democrat party. Americans should be angry at that. I believe they are, or soon will be. Candidate Giuliani is helping to make that happen with his very public demand of the New York Times for equally discounted rates for his own ad. I still wish Fred Thompson had done this or something similar, although challenging the Democrat candidates to return moveon.org money was good, but basically ignored by the media, of course.
I dearly hope that the GOP and/or the Republican candidates, individually, will pound the Democrat candidates with that disgusting ad for weeks and weeks. Their weak claim that they 'had nothing to do with it' rings hollow when moveon.org is a major source of funding for the Democrat candidates.
I say: make the Democrats eat that awful ad that basically calls outstanding, four-star General David Petraeus a liar and a traitor. Well, if he lied to congress, as Hillary Clinton claimed (using semantics) then why doesn't congress charge the General with perjury? Fat chance. I wish Fred Thompson - or even a Republican Senator - would call on the Democrat congressional leadership to do this, just to keep the story alive and make the libs squirm.
Again, I'm as angry as anyone over that moveon.org ad that defames General Petraeus as a 'traitor'. However, I'm hoping that the anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-American whackado's finally went too far, this time, and that the blow-back will result in a Republican president and congress following the November, 2008 election.
I still wish Fred Thompson would do more to capitalize on this idiotic dropping of the mask by the moveon.org haters.
You may be on to something. Heh heh heh...
Hell, I would bet that they even helped to write the ad.
Same here. I love that he called sHrillery out. All out melitary deserves our respect.
The Times will accept Rudy’s money. Matter of fact their readership will swell if only for a day. If they allow each and every candidate to buy one pagers it will be proof that lowering prices (taxes) promotes increased revenue and profits.
In the End the Joke will be on the Old Gray Lady......hehe
Every conservative group in the country with the funds should take out a full page ad at this rate.
Hopefully the Times loses money at that rate.
Fred came out with a press release the day this disgusting Ad came out calling on all democrats to denounce it.
I also applaud Rudy for his statement today against she who's name must not be mentioned and for disputing Ron Paul's assertion that we had something to do with 9/11.
When the Brooklyn Museum did that exhibition of sacriligious art, Giuliani hit the local liberals hard. Had they been smart, they would have shut up or simply changed course. But they just had to reflexively defend the indefensible. Their doctrine demanded it. They never lived it down.
He actually was the ONLY one who said what needed to be said about the LIBBY conviction.
The same way she and her staff did when her husband was in office.
I, and a number of others, used to absolutely dread her occasional appearances in the Pentagon.
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