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Talking to al Qaeda? Don't rule it out, some say (MEGAHURL!)
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Thu Sep 13 | Mark Trevelyan, Security Correspondent (lol)

Posted on 09/13/2007 12:32:06 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty

LONDON (Reuters) - Six years after the September 11 attacks, a few cautious voices are beginning to suggest the unthinkable -- maybe it is time to consider talking to al Qaeda.

The idea will revolt some people and raises obvious questions -- through what channels could such a dialogue take place and what would there be to negotiate?

But proponents say al Qaeda has established itself as a de facto power, whether the West likes it or not, and history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war.

"No insurgency or terrorism has been defeated by warfare or violence," former Anglican church envoy and hostage negotiator Terry Waite said in a debate on BBC World television.

"There are some rational players in al Qaeda but it also attracts the psychotic. We need to seek an entry point," said the Briton, himself a captive in Lebanon from 1987 to 1991.

Jan Egeland, a Norwegian who helped broker secret talks between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organisation in the 1990s and later, as a top U.N. official, dealt with warlords and guerrilla leaders from Colombia to Uganda, told Reuters: "I wouldn't rule out speaking to anybody, a priori."

He went on: "It depends on who you speak to, but also what you speak to them about. I'm willing to speak to the devil to help the victims in the depths of hell. If I could have a meeting with al Qaeda where one could impress upon them that they are the biggest anti-Islamic force around, why not?"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: accommodation; britain; chamberlain; defeatism; dhimmi; eatenlast; neville; paulestinians; peaceinourtime; stupidity
Not sure what to say except...NO!
1 posted on 09/13/2007 12:32:08 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

In retrospect, I suppose we should have talked with Hitler instead of fighting.


2 posted on 09/13/2007 12:33:47 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Give me liberty and give them death!


3 posted on 09/13/2007 12:33:49 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Do not wish ill for your enemies, plan it.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Dear "some",

Go right ahead & do your "talking." Get back to us if you survive a beheading, you dumba$$ dhimmis.

4 posted on 09/13/2007 12:34:41 PM PDT by kromike
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To: PreciousLiberty

Why in the hell do they keep writing this crap? I guess these clowns haven’t figured out how dumb they sound.


5 posted on 09/13/2007 12:34:44 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: PreciousLiberty
history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war

Yeah, worked great with Hitler. Tojo too. (Maybe they weren't "militant" enough). Frickin' morons.

6 posted on 09/13/2007 12:35:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PreciousLiberty

We’re already talking to al Qaeda. And the libs don’t like it because it’s unpleasant for the jihadis. In their mind, it’s not just a matter of talking to them. It’s a matter of giving respect to them.


7 posted on 09/13/2007 12:35:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: PreciousLiberty
I say yes, talk to Al Qaeda, put them under military trial, and execute them all for committing horrible war crimes.

Or are they visualizing world appeasement again?

8 posted on 09/13/2007 12:35:45 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: All
Its vision -- to create a global Muslim caliphate and convert even the United States to Islam, as its leader Osama bin Laden urged in a video last week -- is a dream that is not confined within national boundaries and leaves no room for compromise, or even realistic discussion.

ummm, yep, definately room for diplomacy with these people /sarc

9 posted on 09/13/2007 12:36:00 PM PDT by Alright_on_the_LeftCoast
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To: PreciousLiberty

You just can’t make this cr@p up. I swear... these liberal morons would keep trying to talk to these monsters as they were sawing their heads off.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 12:36:04 PM PDT by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: tobyhill

They forgot that Hitler betrayed their beloved Joe Stalin.


11 posted on 09/13/2007 12:36:34 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
But proponents say al Qaeda has established itself as a de facto power, whether the West likes it or not, and history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war.

Wrong...the Mongols dealt very successfully with the Order of Assassins by killing them in very creative ways.

12 posted on 09/13/2007 12:36:49 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: PreciousLiberty
Jan Egeland, a Norwegian who helped broker secret talks between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organisation in the 1990s

Ah yes, the famous "Oslo Accords." They worked almost as well as Munich did.

13 posted on 09/13/2007 12:37:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PreciousLiberty

I propose that the Democratic Congressional leadership take the reigns and begin negotiations with the terrorists. The Dems can begin by offering to submit ... Oh wait ... they have already started. Scratch That.


14 posted on 09/13/2007 12:38:57 PM PDT by TexGuy
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To: Red in Blue PA

> In retrospect, I suppose we should have
> talked with Hitler instead of fighting.

Uh, we did, and got “Peace in our time”.

Whenever some vacant skull proposes this,
merely ask them:
“How does one negotiate agreements with
people who don’t keep agreements?”


15 posted on 09/13/2007 12:39:24 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: PreciousLiberty
history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war.

Cutting off their goolies is also good.

16 posted on 09/13/2007 12:39:51 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: PreciousLiberty
There are some rational players in al Qaeda

That immediately disqualifies anyone from talking intelligently on the subject. There really are some that seek our downfall and Dhimmi-tude.
17 posted on 09/13/2007 12:40:47 PM PDT by steel_resolve (90 Guns per 100 Americans...You will never take us.)
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To: All
history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war

Unless, of course, it's the Minutemen, the Branch Davidians, Randy Weaver, ot etc. - it's shoot first and suppress questions later when it's alleged American militants we're talking about.

Proven threats like Osama get more tolerance from these %#@%$#! than Americans do.

18 posted on 09/13/2007 12:41:04 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Do not wish ill for your enemies, plan it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Ah yes, the famous "Oslo Accords." They worked almost as well as Munich did.

If you're referring to Munich 1972, then yes, you're right. [/s]

19 posted on 09/13/2007 12:43:14 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Do not wish ill for your enemies, plan it.)
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To: kromike

I nominate Hillary as Ambassador to Al Qaeda!


20 posted on 09/13/2007 12:43:33 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Boundless

I didn’t put a /sarc tag behind it, but maybe I should have.


21 posted on 09/13/2007 12:43:58 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: PreciousLiberty
maybe it is time to consider talking to al Qaeda

Yes, it is long past time to begin talking to al Qaeda. Start with you have 36 hours to hand over bin Laden. If you refuse we will kill every man woman and child in North Diarrhea-stan. If you are to orchestrate another attack in the Western owrld you can kiss goodbye to Mecca, Medina, Qom and any other place that you savages consider holy. If you continue to persist then we will begin to bomb islam from the face of the earth.

22 posted on 09/13/2007 12:44:28 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

There is nothing wrong with “talking” to al Qaeda - if by talking they mean interrogating, intimidating, or insulting. :)


23 posted on 09/13/2007 12:45:08 PM PDT by M203M4 (May the cankles of Herr Heinous rest lightly upon us)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I can think of several short words that could be put before the NO!!!


24 posted on 09/13/2007 12:45:57 PM PDT by oakcon
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To: PreciousLiberty

Just exactly how does one negotiate with them? They want to kill everyone in the world who is not a Muslim fanatic. Should we compromise and let them kill half the people in world?


25 posted on 09/13/2007 12:46:09 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Califreak
I nominate Hillary as Ambassador to Al Qaeda!

I second that!

26 posted on 09/13/2007 12:46:41 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: PreciousLiberty

“I’m willing to speak to the devil to help the victims in the depths of hell.”

I am not going to comment on the theological aspects of the above statement, but for us to speak with the devil is exactly what he wants us to do. How can anyone negotiate with a liar when any contract with him is null and void from the very start?


27 posted on 09/13/2007 12:46:49 PM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I find it curious the same people calling for ‘negotiations’ with al Qaeda are the exact same people that had no desire to ‘negotiate’ with Operation Rescue in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s.

Back then, these ‘same people’ said they couldn’t negotiate with ‘religious fanatics’.

Yep, very curious.....


28 posted on 09/13/2007 12:48:29 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: PreciousLiberty

This from the same egghead who thinks the US doesn’t give the UN enough money.

Can someone shove some pies down his piehole? Please? Nothing but @#$% seems to come out.


29 posted on 09/13/2007 12:51:44 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: PreciousLiberty

Dear Appeasers:

Bring an extra head in case you lose yours.


30 posted on 09/13/2007 12:52:54 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I guess the ignoramus’s don’t know that it is perfectly acceptable to these muslim psychopaths to lie to the infidels? How dumb can these people be? Don’t answer that.


31 posted on 09/13/2007 1:01:54 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: PreciousLiberty

That’s the process by which terrorists become Leftist heroes, and then statesmen. Worked for Yassir Arafat, etc.

If we talk to these people, we will of sold out our fellow citizens, the brave souls who have died fighting these terrorists, and our principles.


32 posted on 09/13/2007 1:02:11 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: tobyhill

“Why in the hell do they keep writing this crap?”

They think it sounds clever. And they’re throwing their fellow leftists a bone to chew on.


33 posted on 09/13/2007 1:03:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We didn’t have to. Chamberlain was at the beckon call of Hitler & Moussilini (sp?). He ran to them like an obedient dog whenever they called. Obviously, it’s a rock solid strategy to try to reason with mentally unstable people.


34 posted on 09/13/2007 1:04:54 PM PDT by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Well, a demand for unconditional surrender does require talking to the enemy. ^_^


35 posted on 09/13/2007 1:05:21 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: PreciousLiberty
history shows militant movements are best neutralized by negotiation, not war.

Wasn't Neville Chamberlains line ended? Does he have great grand kids working for Rueters?

L

36 posted on 09/13/2007 1:05:29 PM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: PreciousLiberty
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case; you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.

- Winston Churchill
37 posted on 09/13/2007 1:07:52 PM PDT by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: PreciousLiberty

This is ridiculous. When it comes to al-Qaeda, there is nothing to talk about. They want total worldwide submission to radical Islam and want to murder any and all who do not submit. You cannot negotiate with people who want all or nothing, who demand everything and threaten death if they don’t get it. We cannot reason with people who possess such relentless malice. We can only fight them.


38 posted on 09/13/2007 1:09:34 PM PDT by blitzgig
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To: PreciousLiberty

Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry...they all talk to Al Queda all the time. Like when they rebutted General Petraus, they spoke the same words that Obama Bin Laden does.


39 posted on 09/13/2007 1:14:18 PM PDT by subterfuge (It's GREAT, to be, a Florida Gator!)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Maybe we should have a meeting with OBL. First, we would locate him. Secondly, the talk would go like this...”We want to come to an agreement with you. You surrender and we won’t kill you. How’s that?”


40 posted on 09/13/2007 1:15:48 PM PDT by RC2
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To: PreciousLiberty

Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.

Winston Churchill

We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.

Winston Churchill


41 posted on 09/13/2007 1:18:27 PM PDT by 76Tiger
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To: PreciousLiberty

Sure, let’s talk. I can think of some things I’d say to Bin Laden - Just before I blew him away.


42 posted on 09/13/2007 1:43:30 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: PreciousLiberty
Neville Chamberlain did talk to Hitler and even got an agreement signed ...classic appeasement that did nothing.

Terry Wait should know from his experience as a captive of Muslim extremists in Lebanon that they aren't interested in negotiating anything. The current crop of Islamic fascists have no intent to negotiate on anything but a total capitulation of Western civilization. We may laugh at Bin Laden's last message but it is wholly consistant with the mindset of the Muslim extremists...what they want is conversion of the whole world to Islam by whatever means necessary and the establishment of a global Islamic theocracy police state.

43 posted on 09/13/2007 1:45:03 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: PreciousLiberty

We talk to Al-Quaida everyday at Git-Mo. What more do they want? Sheesh.


44 posted on 09/13/2007 1:48:10 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Cymbaline

recognize them, talk with them?

then its like the palestainians, through those two steps you start legitimizing them. you give them REAL existence.

recognize them through crosshairs,

legitimize them with pb


45 posted on 09/13/2007 1:58:41 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: PreciousLiberty

Does this “Security Correspondent” have water on the brain?


46 posted on 09/13/2007 2:41:13 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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