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Amish donate cash to school gunman's widow
MSNBC.Com ^ | September 134 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/14/2007 5:26:53 AM PDT by RDTF

PHILADELPHIA - An Amish community that lost five girls in a Pennsylvania schoolhouse shooting massacre last year has donated money to the widow of the gunman, the community said Wednesday.

The Nickel Mines Accountability Committee, which was set up to handle more than $4.3 million in donations from around the world after the shootings, said it had given an unspecified "contribution" to Marie Roberts, a mother of three.

Her husband, Charles Carl Roberts, a local milk truck driver who was not Amish, tied up and shot 10 Amish schoolgirls aged 6 to 14 in their classroom last Oct. 2, killing five of them before turning the gun on himself.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amish; christians; massacre; shooting
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1 posted on 09/14/2007 5:26:57 AM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Headline more than a tad misleading?


2 posted on 09/14/2007 5:29:33 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: RDTF
A true act of Christian charity and love.
3 posted on 09/14/2007 5:29:45 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: RDTF
Reward a criminal murder’s family!
4 posted on 09/14/2007 5:30:13 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: RDTF

Those wacky Amish...


5 posted on 09/14/2007 5:30:24 AM PDT by gridlock (I do not support Hillary Clinton because I am afraid of strong women)
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To: RDTF

There will be a lot of Amish people in the Kingdom of God..................


6 posted on 09/14/2007 5:30:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: RDTF

I don’t think the widow is getting the entire $4.3 million—just an “unspecified portion” of the larger fund.


7 posted on 09/14/2007 5:31:13 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (You know a liberal has lost the argument when he calls you a Nazi.)
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To: RDTF

Now that’s how Christ intended us to turn the other cheek.


8 posted on 09/14/2007 5:31:26 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Sounds more like they are extending charity to the family abandoned by this evil man. From every account that I’ve seen, the family is blameless in this matter.


9 posted on 09/14/2007 5:31:54 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: ErnBatavia

no - apparently they set up the fund.


10 posted on 09/14/2007 5:32:40 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: RDTF

Must have done a lot of digging in the fields to get 4mil from coffee cans.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 5:33:49 AM PDT by stratboy
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

that makes more sense, a portion of the money overall that was donated to them


12 posted on 09/14/2007 5:34:27 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: RDTF
Hard to grasp a love so absolute ....that forgiveness/compassion is intrinsic.
Only God can sustain a heart so pure & yielding.
13 posted on 09/14/2007 5:35:15 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The murderer's wife and children had absolutely nothing to do with his actions, yet you would blame them for his evil wrongdoings.

Shame on you.

14 posted on 09/14/2007 5:35:53 AM PDT by Pablo64 (National Alpaca Farm Day is 9-29-07. Visit an alpaca farm near you!)
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To: ErnBatavia

I see what you mean. I asked the mod to remove that part.


15 posted on 09/14/2007 5:36:33 AM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: Yo-Yo

All believers could learn much from the Amish response to this horrible massacre.


16 posted on 09/14/2007 5:39:58 AM PDT by Right Angler
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To: RDTF
Here's the headline, with the subhead:

Amish donate cash to school gunman’s widow

Unspecified amount given by fund disbursing $4.3 million in contributions

A Mod can fix the headline for you.

17 posted on 09/14/2007 5:40:25 AM PDT by blu (All grammar and punctuation rules are *OFF* for the "24" thread.)
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To: Pablo64
To me this is the same thing as giving money to a suicide bomber’s family!
18 posted on 09/14/2007 5:41:14 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Guenevere

No wonder the ACLU and the DNC hate Christians!


19 posted on 09/14/2007 5:41:17 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I remember feeling that the whole story never came out, I think the widow has info she is not giving up, normal well balanced people don’t just wake up and do things like this.


20 posted on 09/14/2007 5:41:18 AM PDT by bigjackattack
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To: RDTF

God Bless them.


21 posted on 09/14/2007 5:41:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Then, I think you need to revisit your premise.
22 posted on 09/14/2007 5:42:29 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: gridlock

“Those wacky Amish...”

Naw. not wacky, just very together people. though I couild never live the lifestyle. I especially like the way they can keep their traditions, be good citizens in the community, and most important, do not try to convert people or throw their religion and beliefs in peoples faces. Much to be admired. While they may seem clannis and cultish to some they are unlikely to end up hold up in some compound with guns awaiting the end times.


23 posted on 09/14/2007 5:43:45 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: RDTF

The Amish have tought me more about the meaning of Christianity than any preacher. I have never witnessed such selflessness and charitability ever. They are truly remarkable people. It will be 1 year since that awful day on October 4th, about 20 miles from where I live. I am grateful to have them as distant neighbors and I hope the media and onlookers stay away from them as that date approaches.


24 posted on 09/14/2007 5:46:16 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

A suicide bombers family endorses what he/she does and glorifies it. This murderer’s family did no such thing. To compare the two makes no sense.


25 posted on 09/14/2007 5:48:25 AM PDT by VirginiaMom
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To: RDTF

BTTT

However, I’ll be honest - I am incapable of such good feelings and charity though I understand that the family had nothing to do with that murderer’s horrible crimes.


26 posted on 09/14/2007 5:49:21 AM PDT by indcons
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yeah,
lets just kill his kids too, they’ll probably grow up just like him.../sarcasm.

You need a hug, doncha?


27 posted on 09/14/2007 5:49:39 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: bigjackattack

What info?
Maybe he was a little more quiet or short tempered than usual. Maybe he was paranoid about some things. Maybe he was acting just a little bit odd and not like himself..

Surely you don’t thing that she would have been able from whatever changes in his character to think “A HA! He’s going to go to a school and kill a bunch of kids!”

Sorry, but even when someone gives clues about going ‘off’ they’re only clues in hindsite.


28 posted on 09/14/2007 5:52:36 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: najida

This is the kind of thing the Americans did in Japan and Germany for the families left behind from a decade of killing and war.


29 posted on 09/14/2007 5:55:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: najida
You jump from rewarding a murder’s family to killing his kids, a great leap of logic.
30 posted on 09/14/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
From all of the "exposes" on how one becomes a homicide bomber, the family members usually seem to encourage their sons, brothers and nephews into the act--not force them, but give them the big thumbs up.

I have yet to see any evidence that the widow Roberts or her children encouraged their spouse/father into the massacre which he alone perpetrated.

Have you ever sinned? Done something stupid? C'mon, share with the class. Then we can go after your family.

31 posted on 09/14/2007 6:01:04 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: RDTF

I wish I could learn to forgive like this. I would be a much better man for it . . .

I still have a long way to go in my walk.


32 posted on 09/14/2007 6:02:28 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: RDTF

I have to admire the Amish, for their Christian charity and forgiveness, but not necessarily for their common sense.


33 posted on 09/14/2007 6:02:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Yeah, because I'm sure that before he went out that morning his kids all begged him to take hostages, kill people, then kill himself and leave them without a father.

Do I really need the sarcasm tag, or can you figure this one out for yourself?

34 posted on 09/14/2007 6:04:54 AM PDT by Pablo64 (National Alpaca Farm Day is 9-29-07. Visit an alpaca farm near you!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
The family is Innocent of the crime. What the Amish are doing is in Christian love.
35 posted on 09/14/2007 6:10:55 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: svcw
All of my sympathy goes to the victims and their families and none to his family!
36 posted on 09/14/2007 6:14:37 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Why?


37 posted on 09/14/2007 6:15:46 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
All of my sympathy goes to the victims and their families and none to his family!

The Amish community in which it happened disagrees with you. And it must be incredibly difficult to be a family member of someone that committed such an atrocity.

They Amish are an amazing bunch, and exemplify Christ's message.
38 posted on 09/14/2007 6:22:44 AM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
> All of my sympathy goes to the victims and their families and none to his family!

With respect, that is a perfectly stupid thing to say. His family are victims of this tragedy, too. Or do you think they enjoy being widowed and fatherless and despised by people like you?
39 posted on 09/14/2007 6:23:20 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: svcw
Sometimes it’s hard to forgive people but we must do it or the hate burns you up from inside. Christians can never be Christ but just a bit of faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains. I have always believed that people who go on a rampage like this are either really, really sick or the devil has screwed up their heads. I see nothing wrong in what they did. I have a feeling that they are not blaming the man per se but the devil or some evil entity in the world that can influence people so. Yes there is evil in this world but there is also more love and compassion. My condolences to all those people who lost their lives a year ago. I hope the daughters of the killer do not let his actions affect their lives too much. I wish them all the best.
40 posted on 09/14/2007 6:23:27 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (An American in Miami)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

If we follow your logic, we, like Jesse Jackson and crew insist, owe slavery reparations to black people.

You sir, are a certifiable muddled thinker. The sin of the father is not the sin of the child. Only people like Islamic fanatics and race pimps believe such things.

I suggest a little introspection on your part to clear up your thinking.

What these Amish have done is true Christian charity. God bless them.


41 posted on 09/14/2007 6:24:53 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (In regards to Ron Paul, Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1889318/posts)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
We must set up a fund for all murderer’s families to reward them because the murderer went crazy!

Would that make you happy?

42 posted on 09/14/2007 6:27:54 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: RDTF

Well, that kind of puts it in perspective doesn’t it?

I’m feeling a tad small and insignificant right now, with good reason. Witnessing true greatness can do that to the ordinary man.


43 posted on 09/14/2007 6:32:25 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Obviously it shows that you have no understanding of the words “True Christain Charity”. The Amish are a magnificent family of people and the rest of the country can learn quite a bit from them.


44 posted on 09/14/2007 6:32:56 AM PDT by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: BraveMan
“I still have a long way to go in my walk.”

As do I! However, take heart that you recognize that you have a long way to go... Self Awareness is many steps down the path.

45 posted on 09/14/2007 6:36:12 AM PDT by Syntyr (Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

> We must set up a fund for all murderer’s families to reward them because the murderer went crazy!

The story is about the Amish giving money to the murderer’s family. “We” aren’t involved.

Go back, read the story slowly and carefully. Try not to let your lips get tired, so take plenty of rests in between sentences.


46 posted on 09/14/2007 6:37:06 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: JEC
I guess you are right, I do not believe in rewarding a murderer’ family.

So I am a bad Christian!

47 posted on 09/14/2007 6:37:12 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Right Angler

Never heard of the “religion of peace” doing anything remotely like this. And they worship the same God as Christians & Jews?? I think not.

God Bless ‘em - those “funny little Amish”. Yup, there’ll be a lot of the up there I’m sure.....


48 posted on 09/14/2007 6:42:27 AM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: RDTF

If the world would display the character of these people it would be a better place. They never cease to amaze me.


49 posted on 09/14/2007 6:46:58 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
To me this is the same thing as giving money to a suicide bomber’s family!

I would see no problem with that as long as the family wasn't involved in encouraging him to be a suicide bomber. You can't blame a whole family for the actions of one member.

50 posted on 09/14/2007 6:49:20 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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