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What Federal Crimes Has Norman Hsu Commited
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_6884611 ^ | Self

Posted on 09/14/2007 9:11:15 AM PDT by Sefton

Since the "Honorable" Mesa County Judge Bruce Raaum has again set bail for Hillary's friend Norman Hsu, are there any federal crimes he's committed that he can be arrested for on his release from this Andy Taylor jail? What is the background of Judge Raaum?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bail; hillary; hsu; norman
Where's the outrage!
1 posted on 09/14/2007 9:11:17 AM PDT by Sefton
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To: Sefton

The fix is in.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 9:12:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Charlie Tree and Henry Le.

Laws are only passed against Americans - all others are free to roam as they please.


3 posted on 09/14/2007 9:14:51 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Sefton
I think Mr. Shu should think twice about posting bond. He's probably much safer in jail...


4 posted on 09/14/2007 9:14:57 AM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: Sefton

Hsu has JUMPED BAIL TWICE and this judge gives him bail AGAIN???? WHO IS THIS JUDGE?


5 posted on 09/14/2007 9:17:29 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Sefton

Did crossing state lines to avoid prosecution or sentencing in California a federal crime? What is Hsu’s immigration status? I’m sure he wouldn’t have been allowed to make campaign contributions if he weren’t a citizen. (s/)


6 posted on 09/14/2007 9:26:22 AM PDT by Sefton
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
are there any federal crimes he's committed that he can be arrested for on his release from this Andy Taylor jail?

UFAP.

L

7 posted on 09/14/2007 9:27:34 AM PDT by Lurker ( Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing smallpox to ebola.)
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To: Lurker
UFAP L

???

8 posted on 09/14/2007 9:32:13 AM PDT by Sefton
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To: Sefton

I am betting he is NOT a citizen!


9 posted on 09/14/2007 9:34:45 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Lurker

oh, Unlawful Flight to Avoid Persecution


10 posted on 09/14/2007 9:35:27 AM PDT by Sefton
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To: Sefton

Interstate flight to avoid prosecution is a federal offense.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 9:38:44 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/69mcrm.htm#9-69.400

Do any of these apply?

12 posted on 09/14/2007 9:42:44 AM PDT by Sefton
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To: Sefton

I would have to guess that if he has been shoveling a lot of money around that there must be wire transfer laws, banking laws, tax laws, and any number of things that the feds have used to convict people when money and fraud are involved. As another poster pointed out, once he crossed state lines to avoid imprisonment he probably violated a federal law.


13 posted on 09/14/2007 10:00:41 AM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Sefton
Grand Junction is hardly Mayberry and Judge Raaum is quite competent.

Hsu jumped bail and skipped out on a hearing in California. That may not be illegal where you live, but the authorities in California and Colorado are not amused by such conduct.

He is not being held on federal charges, but on a California warrant and is awaiting extradition back to California.

This is an unusual "cash" bail, meaning he can't bond out for a 10% fee, but would have to deposit $5 million with the court in cash, an amount it is very unlikely he can post.

My understanding is Hsu in under investigation for fraud, although I don't know if that is by federal or state authorities.

14 posted on 09/14/2007 10:08:54 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Sefton
18 USC 1073 - Flight to avoid prosecution or giving testi­mony

Whoever moves or travels in interstate or foreign commerce with intent either

(1) to avoid prosecution, or custody or confinement after conviction, under the laws of the place from which he flees, for a crime, or an attempt to commit a crime, punishable by death or which is a felony under the laws of the place from which the fugitive flees, or ...

(3) to avoid service of, or contempt proceedings for alleged disobedience of, lawful process requiring attendance and the giving of testimony or the production of documentary evidence before an agency of a State empowered by the law of such State to conduct investigations of alleged criminal activities, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. For the purposes of clause (3) of this paragraph, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.

Violations of this section may be prosecuted only in the Federal judicial district in which the original crime was alleged to have been committed, or in which the person was held in custody or confinement, or in which an avoidance of service of process or a contempt referred to in clause (3) of the first paragraph of this section is alleged to have been committed, and only upon formal approval in writing by the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General, the Associate Attorney General, or an Assistant Attorney General of the United States, which function of approving prosecutions may not be delegated.

15 posted on 09/14/2007 10:14:08 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Appointed to the bench by Gov. Bill Owens(R).


16 posted on 09/14/2007 10:22:24 AM PDT by surrey
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To: colorado tanker; Suzy Quzy
His checkbook with him indicated he had $6 million in his checking account.....which is very possible since he apparently picked up 40 Million in NY and 33 Million in California recently....see this:

NY Times: Judge in Colorado Sets Bond of $5 Million for Democratic Fund-Raiser
The New York Times ^ | September 14, 2007 | DAN FROSCH

17 posted on 09/14/2007 10:25:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Exactly. 5 million to him is nothing. The DA wanted 50 Million and the arguments of the defense attouney seemed absolutely increadible given the flight record.

Hard to see how the judge was at all logical on this one. Unless his court can better use the 5 million than zip and he wants/expects Hsu to leave his deposit.

Who exactly got the 2 million Hsu forfeited and who would get this 5 million?


18 posted on 09/14/2007 10:39:07 AM PDT by rod1
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hsu probably could post the bail, but I doubt he would clean out his checking account - he's gonna need that money to pay his defense team if he's gonna have a prayer of avoiding serious jail time.

Last report is he's still in jail, still has medical problems and will waive an extradition hearing.

According to the article that's the biggest bond ever set in Mesa County. I don't know how high you could go for a fairly low grade theft conviction, which is all he's been convicted of in California, before getting into constitutional problems with unreasonable bail.

19 posted on 09/14/2007 10:44:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: Sefton; Millee; Allegra; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; StephenTX; wallcrawlr; Xenalyte; Tatze; ...
Re: What Federal Crimes Has Norman Hsu Commited?

Well, if you go by the 9th Circuit Court... Hsu let down the Clintons, so the 9th would find for the death penalty in his case.

Go, Fred, Go!

Large scan of above at my FR Homepage

20 posted on 09/14/2007 10:52:35 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: colorado tanker
I don't know how high you could go for a fairly low grade theft conviction, which is all he's been convicted of in California, before getting into constitutional problems with unreasonable bail.

It's not just the theft conviction, it's his demonstrated propensity to become a fugitive from justice. "Flight risk" is a factor in determining the reasonableness of a given bail amount.

21 posted on 09/14/2007 11:54:34 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Hsu has JUMPED BAIL TWICE and this judge gives him bail AGAIN???? WHO IS THIS JUDGE?

Seemingly one who has a price.

22 posted on 09/14/2007 11:56:38 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: mvpel
"Flight risk" is a factor in determining the reasonableness of a given bail amount.

Presumably that's why he got the $5 million. It looks like he's going to waive extradition and not attempt to make bail until he's back in California. Given his history I would think California would want to throw him right in the slammer and start his sentence on the theft conviction.

23 posted on 09/14/2007 12:49:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker

HSU has $6,000,000.00 in his CHECKBOOK!


24 posted on 09/14/2007 1:47:01 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Well, he’s still sitting in jail, so what’s everybody so upset about?
25 posted on 09/14/2007 1:50:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker

It’s weird.


26 posted on 09/14/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: colorado tanker
so what’s everybody so upset about?

Because if you or I did something that amounted to 1/10th the criminal con game that Hsu has been getting away with for years, they'd toss us in the clink and throw away the key.

Bail? What the heck ever happened to remand?

27 posted on 09/14/2007 5:25:52 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: Sefton

What about foreign monies and elections?

He was one of the bundler’s for Sioeng.

He is named right here in this investigation:

http://blog.barofintegrity.us/2007/08/31/senator-hillary-rodham-clinton-dnc-campaign-money-trail—norman-hsu-and-china.aspx

>>3/11/95 Sioeng San Wong Friends of Norman Hsu $ 7,500<<


28 posted on 09/14/2007 5:32:56 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Cementjungle
Hsu has JUMPED BAIL TWICE and this judge gives him bail AGAIN???? WHO IS THIS JUDGE? Seemingly one who has a price.

Colorado law requires that bail be set in any non-capital case.

This is the highest bail ever set in this jurisdiction, by a factor of five.

The judge DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to do what you want him to do.

29 posted on 09/15/2007 6:52:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Jim Noble
The judge DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to do what you want him to do.

Even for someone who has already been convicted, and has jumped bail (and skipped out on the sentencing hearing)?

I doubt that.

30 posted on 09/15/2007 10:55:05 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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