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‘Freegans’ live off scraps by choice
Los Angeles Times ^ | Thu, Sep. 13, 2007 | ERIKA HAYASAKI

Posted on 09/14/2007 3:02:23 PM PDT by presidio9

For lunch in her modest apartment, Madeline Nelson tossed a salad made with shaved carrots and lettuce she dug out of a Whole Foods dumpster.

She flavored the dressing with miso powder she found in a trash bag on a curb in Chinatown. She baked bread made with yeast plucked from the garbage of a Middle Eastern grocery.

Nelson, 51, is a former corporate executive who can afford to dine at upscale restaurants. But she prefers turning garbage into gourmet meals without spending a cent.

On this afternoon, she thawed a slab of pate that she found three days before its expiration date in a trash bin outside a health food store. She made buttery chicken soup from another health food store’s hot buffet leftovers, which she salvaged before they were tossed into the garbage.

Nelson once earned a six-figure income as director of communications at Barnes and Noble. Tired of representing a multimillion-dollar company, she quit in 2005 and became a “freegan” — the word combining “vegan” and “free.” It is a growing subculture of people who have reduced their spending habits and live off consumer waste.

Although many of its pioneers are vegans, people who neither eat nor use any animal-based products, the concept has caught on with Nelson and other meat-eaters who do not want to depend on businesses that they think waste resources, harm the environment or allow unfair labor practices.

“We’re doing something that is really socially unacceptable,” Nelson said. “Not everyone is going to do it, but we hope it leads people to push their own limits and quit spending.”

Nelson used to spend more than $100,000 a year for her food, clothes, books, transportation and a mortgage on a two-bedroom co-op in Greenwich Village. Now, she lives off savings,

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: animalwhackos; bums; freegans; loonyleft; stinkinghippys; vegans
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1 posted on 09/14/2007 3:02:24 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I read this in the Houston Chronicle today ...

What a bunch of losers.

H


2 posted on 09/14/2007 3:05:21 PM PDT by Hemorrhage ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: presidio9
“We’re doing something that is really socially unacceptable,” Nelson said. “Not everyone is going to do it, but we hope it leads people to push their own limits and quit spending.”

Great a nation of scavengers!

3 posted on 09/14/2007 3:05:50 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: presidio9

Dumpster diving Diva dines delectably........


4 posted on 09/14/2007 3:05:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: presidio9
It would be a gosh darn shame if this trust fund dame were to come down with something nasty as a result of all the tiny...and not so tiny...creatures that tend to hang around dumpsters.
5 posted on 09/14/2007 3:06:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If martyrdom is so cool,why does Osama Obama go to such great lengths to avoid it?)
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To: presidio9

My dictionary doesn’t have “freegans”. I think the word they’re looking for is “bums”.


6 posted on 09/14/2007 3:07:29 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: Turbopilot

look up geophagy.....


7 posted on 09/14/2007 3:10:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Red Badger
Dumpster diving Diva dines delectably........

Doctors declare dumpster diving diva dead. Details deferred.

8 posted on 09/14/2007 3:12:25 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Hemorrhage

It’s nothing new. I know a lot of women that self medicated on anti depresants, left their husbands, kids, lost the house, all their money and live off of dumpsters.


9 posted on 09/14/2007 3:12:25 PM PDT by Haddit
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

LOL!........DOA...............


10 posted on 09/14/2007 3:14:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: presidio9

Good. That means there is an opening for director of communications at Barnes and Noble.


11 posted on 09/14/2007 3:14:51 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Hemorrhage

I don’t have a problem with it. I wouldn’t do it myself, but this really is no different than buying the meats, dairy, or breads that are marked down close to expiration dates.


12 posted on 09/14/2007 3:14:53 PM PDT by jdub
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To: rocksblues

>> Great a nation of scavengers!

Ironically - if the entire country were like these folks, the cheap bastards wouldn’t have anyone to mooch off of.

They think of themselves as social heroes while simultaneously piggybacking on the wealth and prosperity of those they think are “wasteful”.

H


13 posted on 09/14/2007 3:15:06 PM PDT by Hemorrhage ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: presidio9

These are the same people that are touted as having “no health insurance”.....and that they intend to MANDATE others pay for their insurance......


14 posted on 09/14/2007 3:16:52 PM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
Dumpster diving Diva dines delectably........ Doctors declare dumpster diving diva dead. Details deferred.

Let's not let alliteration go to our heads...

15 posted on 09/14/2007 3:17:24 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: Hemorrhage

What’s wrong with not being wasteful?


16 posted on 09/14/2007 3:17:36 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger

Did you erad the article? They eat out of the trash.


17 posted on 09/14/2007 3:18:04 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: presidio9

I don’t judge anyone who makes a non-criminal living without dipping into my pockets.

What ticks me off is watching people in my line at the supermarket paying with their WIC cards and strolling off into a nicer car than I can afford. THAT bothers me.

People want to dumpster-diver for fun and profit, knock yourselves out.


18 posted on 09/14/2007 3:18:14 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: presidio9

It used to be that people who scavanged through other people’s trash were called bums. Now they’re “freegans”? How about “weirdos”?


19 posted on 09/14/2007 3:18:14 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: darkangel82

whoops, read*


20 posted on 09/14/2007 3:18:24 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: jdub
this really is no different than buying the meats, dairy, or breads that are marked down close to expiration dates

Only if they've been thrown in the trash first.

21 posted on 09/14/2007 3:19:27 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: presidio9
She baked bread made with yeast plucked from the garbage of a Middle Eastern grocery.

Doesn't count, you ignorant dirty freegan! Yeast is already yeasty even when new.

22 posted on 09/14/2007 3:20:00 PM PDT by ikka
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To: jdub

>> I don’t have a problem with it.

Practically speaking, neither do I - provided that the owners of the dumpsters do not object. However, I might sing a different tune if they were digging through my trash. My trash is just that, it is not a public pool of goods ... it is items that I own, and I wish to discard or destroy.

Philosophically, I have a problem with those who castigate a wasteful capitalist society while living off of the fruits of other people’s labor. Without the prosperity provided by our capitalist society, the existence of these parasites would be impossible.

H


23 posted on 09/14/2007 3:20:20 PM PDT by Hemorrhage ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: presidio9

And, oh, yes ... she’s nuts.


24 posted on 09/14/2007 3:20:23 PM PDT by Marylander (What next?)
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To: darkangel82

If they can find something tasty in the trash and prepare it in a way that doesn’t make them sick more power to them.

Why should I or anyone else care?


25 posted on 09/14/2007 3:20:30 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Haddit

” I know a lot of women that self medicated on anti depresants, left their husbands, kids, lost the house, all their money and live off of dumpsters.”

You know a lot of women like that? I’m calling BS.


26 posted on 09/14/2007 3:20:30 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: presidio9

Pinto brains running on just methane.......freegan. Gheeeesh.


27 posted on 09/14/2007 3:21:10 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: presidio9

Jerry: “Was it in the garbage can?”

George: “It was just resting on top...”

Jerry: “Below the rim?”

George: “Yeah...”

Jerry: “It’s garbage.”


28 posted on 09/14/2007 3:25:05 PM PDT by Argus
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To: presidio9

...Waiting for the first liability suit.....something about “well you should have locked your dumpster to keep me out of your salmonella infested garbage.”


29 posted on 09/14/2007 3:25:24 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Turbopilot

It’s not for me, but they aren’t bums. It isn’t wrong to abhor waste and they are resourceful and self sufficient. I think we waste an obscene amount of food in this country.


30 posted on 09/14/2007 3:25:24 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: presidio9

Garbage in, Garbage out.

Describes their worldview as well I’ll bet.


31 posted on 09/14/2007 3:25:34 PM PDT by Tall_Texan ("The Democrat Party: Where Victory Is Not An Option")
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To: Turbopilot

Bum is no longer politically correct. The new terminology is: Underhoused non-employment-seeking fermented beverage consumers. Please make a note of it.


32 posted on 09/14/2007 3:26:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: presidio9

I wonder if Madeline has considered going out to pasture, grazing on dandelions and Polk salad, pooping with the cows and becoming one with Nature.


33 posted on 09/14/2007 3:26:30 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Hemorrhage

My apologies for hammering on ya yesterday. I see you have survived our slings and arrows. Welcome back to FR.


34 posted on 09/14/2007 3:26:48 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: Smogger

What’s wrong with being Productive?


35 posted on 09/14/2007 3:27:23 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: darkangel82

“Did you read the article? They eat out of the trash.”

And the commerical pitch would be...

“This woman, we will call here “Helen”, was once a very successful corporate executive, with the ability to eat whatever she would like....just like you and me...now she searches for old yeats out back of the local Middle Eastern Grocery...won’t you please help, by giving the price of two Starbuck’s Latte’s a full tank of gas in your suburban and the cost of a good steak, you can help Helen to eat caviar and champagne once again..won’t you please help?”


36 posted on 09/14/2007 3:27:59 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: presidio9
If they’re willing to take the risk I don’t care if they fish stuff out of dumpsters.

Having worked at a pretty-well-known warehouse store, I can tell you that the amount of perfectly good stuff being thrown away is OBSCENE IMO.

Part of it I understand, particularly the foodstuffs. Stuff can only be kept on a steamer or hot tray for so long. At a point you have to toss it. Stuff has to be sold before it expires. Stuff has to be maintained at certain temperatures or you have to toss it.

Other stuff I can’t understand. Perfectly good bicycles returned because the customer “didn’t want/need” it and they’ll take a sawzall and cut it in half rather than try to re-sell or donate it or whatever.

Perfectly good patio sets, umbrellas, bed headboard/footboard, vanities, sporting goods – all perfectly good but destroyed (so it can’t be used by anyone) and tossed in the garbage compactor.

Seriously, I saw a $450 mountain bike returned due to “kickstand loose.” Forget the fact that anybody with a crescent wrench could have “repaired” it – I watched them take a sawzall and cut it in half and run over the forks/wheels with a forklift before tossing it in the compactor.

$1200 patio set that they’ll run forklift forks through and beat with a sledgehammer and get someone with a box cutter to cut up the cushions and pillows so nobody can use it.

Perfectly good, just a customer didn’t want/need so they returned it and the warehouse decided to destroy it for some reason. Something beyond obscene about that. Heck, if nothing else discount it to $800 and sell it as-is.

Nope, can't do that...

37 posted on 09/14/2007 3:28:25 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Smogger

>> What’s wrong with not being wasteful?

Nothing particularly. Waste not, want not.

However - these people are not social heroes ... they’re parasites that have found a way to survive by milking the prosperity of others. Wastefulness is not a virtue ... and neither is dumpster-diving.

H


38 posted on 09/14/2007 3:28:53 PM PDT by Hemorrhage ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: presidio9

“We’re doing something that is really socially unacceptable,”


True, true.


39 posted on 09/14/2007 3:29:05 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: doc11355
Let's not let alliteration go to our heads...

Ahhh, come on.... Diagnosis determined...diseased danish dealt death. Designer dumpster displays dead diva daily.

40 posted on 09/14/2007 3:29:53 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Marylander

She thought she was better than me when she spent $100,000. a year on food and clothing. She now feels she is better than me when she spends nothing to eat and be clothed. She is plainly better than me, even if she is a little chilly around the heart to her fellow man. LOL


41 posted on 09/14/2007 3:29:59 PM PDT by healy61
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To: presidio9

Needs a hurl tag...


42 posted on 09/14/2007 3:31:24 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: dynachrome

>> My apologies for hammering on ya yesterday. I see you have survived our slings and arrows. Welcome back to FR.’

No worries. I’ve survived worse. :)

Thanks.

H


43 posted on 09/14/2007 3:31:39 PM PDT by Hemorrhage ("Don't worry. History will get it right ... and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: presidio9

>>For lunch in her modest apartment, Madeline Nelson tossed a salad made with shaved carrots and lettuce she dug out of a Whole Foods dumpster.
She flavored the dressing with miso powder she found in a trash bag on a curb in Chinatown. She baked bread made with yeast plucked from the garbage of a Middle Eastern grocery.
On this afternoon, she thawed a slab of pate that she found three days before its expiration date in a trash bin outside a health food store. She made buttery chicken soup from another health food store’s hot buffet leftovers, which she salvaged before they were tossed into the garbage.<<


The problem is that you don’t know the status of anything. Meat can be labeled good, but maybe it was placed on a counter and forgotten for 8 hours.

An employee may have hit those fresh carrots with the bug spray and had to throw them out.

The mushroom package may have been dumped on the filthy floor placed back into the package and thrown out.

We all throw out some food for various unseen problems and a dumpster that holds a lot of food products is a terrible environment for food or humans.

I can see the homeless accepting the risks on rare occasions, but not anyone that isn’t starving.


44 posted on 09/14/2007 3:32:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: DeFault User

She should go out to pasture and learn how food is actually MADE! She needs to learn how hard the work is and mayby she’ll gain an appreciation for the blessing in her life. For a former “company executive”, she sounds like another Lib who made too much money and never had to actually work to get, or really go without. Now, she’s “playing” around for while. She’ll get tired of it and soon be looking for another job that pays her 6-figure lifestyle.


45 posted on 09/14/2007 3:32:28 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: DeFault User

She should go out to pasture and learn how food is actually MADE! She needs to learn how hard the work is and mayby she’ll gain an appreciation for the blessing in her life. For a former “company executive”, she sounds like another Lib who made too much money and never had to actually work to get, or really go without. Now, she’s “playing” around for while. She’ll get tired of it and soon be looking for another job that pays her 6-figure lifestyle.


46 posted on 09/14/2007 3:32:30 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: Clock King

The article didn’t say she was an unemployed bum, it said she enjoyed recycling discarded food. Big deal. I buy stuff from Goodwill sometimes, though I can afford just about everything new.


47 posted on 09/14/2007 3:34:37 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Who dat?

As an owner of landfills I agree completely with you. It is amazing what gets tossed, and from what I’ve seen the past 20 years is that Wally World is the worst offender.

I know of a few guys that worked for me that outfitted their homes with the castoffs.

The dumpster diving diva is still a nut job, though.


48 posted on 09/14/2007 3:36:01 PM PDT by ukwildcats
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To: presidio9

In my house, we used to have the five second rule. In her world, it’s the five day rule.


49 posted on 09/14/2007 3:36:01 PM PDT by SmithL (I don't do Barf Alerts, you're old enough to read and decide for yourself)
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To: Hemorrhage
they’re parasites that have found a way to survive by milking

Please. They are homeless or bums. The article said clearly that she is quite wealthy. She's hardly a parasite for recycling food.

BTW: I don't consider the homeless "bums" I see around my neighborhood to be parasites either. I do, however, work with a few parasites. They are the the product of nepotism for the most part.

50 posted on 09/14/2007 3:37:57 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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