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Hillary Slams Giuliani Over Moveon.org Comments
WCBSTV.COM ^ | 14 SEPTEMBER 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/14/2007 3:33:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Says Former Mayor's Times Attack Ad Sign Of Desperation

(CBS) NEW YORK -- Ever since Rudy Giuliani aborted his race for Senate against Hillary Clinton in 2000, the political world has been hungering for a re-match between the political titans.

On Friday, with both candidates running for president, we got a taste of what could be.

Suddenly, it's Rudy versus Hillary all over again.

Giuliani plunged head-first into a growing controversy over the activist group Moveon.org.

"Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of herself for that," Giuliani said.

The organization publicly mocked Gen. David Petraeus this week as "General Betray Us." On Friday, Giuliani tried to link Clinton to that comment by purchasing his own ad in the New York Times.

"These times call for statesmanship, not politicians spewing political venom," it reads.

But Clinton had nothing to do with the Moveon ad. Instead, Giuliani cites her comment this week during Petraeus' testimony.

Clinton said, "...this requires the willing suspension of disbelief."

Giuliani then swooped in: "I'm not sure what she was trying to say ... but she was saying that he wasn't telling the truth."

On Friday, Clinton's campaign shot back, saying:

"It's hardly surprising that Mayor Giuliani is running the first negative ad of the '08 campaign, given his inability to justify his unqualified support for President Bush's failed Iraq strategy."

Giuliani's move comes as Fred Thompson is eroding the ex-mayor's lead in the race. This could be Giuliani's way of seizing the momentum again.

"He'd love nothing more than for her or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says," said David Birdsell, professor at Baruch College.

With the war debate intensifying, some anti-war protestors descended upon Clinton's Manhattan office Friday. But fewer than two-dozen protestors showed up.

As the poor turnout over this rally shows, it hasn't been easy to tarnish Clinton over the war issue. But a lot of people are still very eager to try.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; giuliani; hillary; patraeus; rudy
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If Rudy-toot comes out and nails Clinton over the Hsu scandal, I'll....I'll...vot...well, let's just say I'll shake his hand if he's ever in Green Bay.
1 posted on 09/14/2007 3:33:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rudy and others need to keep the pressure on Hillary for failing to condemn the MoveOn comments. Do it loud and do it proud!


2 posted on 09/14/2007 3:35:45 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This is but a taste of things to come. The further along this race gets, expect to see GOP candidates coming out against Clinton with claws and fangs bared. That witch will not have a minute’s rest. She will be so busy trying to fend off spears that she will have little time to do anything with her own campaign. I love it.


3 posted on 09/14/2007 3:37:45 PM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

he’s ever in Green Bay?.....It’ll be a cold day in.....no wait....it’ll be a HOT day......................


4 posted on 09/14/2007 3:37:48 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This ad is the best thing that’s happened to the GOP.

The majority of Americans can finally see the Democratic Crime Syndicate for what it really is, and realize that is controlled by left-wing loons.


5 posted on 09/14/2007 3:38:00 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hilary has Rudy's 'do

6 posted on 09/14/2007 3:38:58 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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Hillary Slams Giuliani Over Moveon.org Comments
Now that takes a level of audacity only a Clinton is capable of.

 
7 posted on 09/14/2007 3:38:58 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Green Bay? Is that where that Lambert Field is?

:-)


8 posted on 09/14/2007 3:41:12 PM PDT by freespirited (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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""He'd love nothing more than for her (Hillary) or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says," said David Birdsell, professor at Baruch College."

Contributor

Occupation

Date

Amount

Recipient

BIRDSELL, DAVID S
NEW YORK,NY 10011

BARUCH COLLEGE

5/27/2004

$250

Kerry, John


9 posted on 09/14/2007 3:42:02 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Reunite Gondwanaland!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m not a big Rudy-for-President guy....but...if he can step onto the field and pound her into the ground, I will cheer for him like the head cheer-leader at the Homecoming game.


10 posted on 09/14/2007 3:42:08 PM PDT by mad puppy (I'd rather live a day on my feet than a year on my knees)
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I'm surprised Hillary responded. Rush's ad was like a torpedo that blew a hole in her campaign battleship. No - its not sinking but it took a blow that drew her attention to the GOP front-runner. Rudy can't buy this kind of publicity. Hillary - you go girl - you go!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 09/14/2007 3:42:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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For the love of GOD, could headline writers get a thesaurus? I am so sick of “slams” I think I am going to puke. Enough already! It called a vocabulary, look into it!


12 posted on 09/14/2007 3:44:48 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: mad puppy

Ditto & ditto. If she thinks she can out chop a New Yawkah, she’s got another thing commin.


13 posted on 09/14/2007 3:45:09 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Have you noticed how Hillary has modified her method of giving speaches? She’s really toned them down. She doesn’t start soft and slow and get louder and louder any more. She sounded more like Hitler if you pay attention to his speaches. It’s kind of funny because you know that this is not how she really is. She’s a yeller and screamer and if she got in the White House, they would have to insulate all the walls. The military wouldn’t be allowed to wear their uniforms around her either. She wouldn’t want the Secret Service around her either....which would mean she would make a good target.


14 posted on 09/14/2007 3:48:45 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yeah she had nothing to do with the ad (just setting up MoveOn.Org itself...)


15 posted on 09/14/2007 3:51:00 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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...the political world has been hungering for a re-match between the political titans.

Political Titans? Hillary? IIRC, during her 2000 campaign, she admitted to being "frightened" when Rep Rick Lazio approached her lecturn.

What kind of Titan is afraid of a skinny guy with a piece of paper?

16 posted on 09/14/2007 3:54:03 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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"It's hardly surprising that Mayor Giuliani is running the first negative ad of the '08 campaign, given his inability to justify his unqualified support for President Bush's failed Iraq strategy."

That's a really weak response. If that's the best Hillary's goons can do, I'm not impressed. It's like her to dodge the question, however; she's had lots of practice at that.

17 posted on 09/14/2007 3:56:12 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

rudy is on the only one who has the nerve to take on the hildebeast.
the republican leadership seems to be nowhere. the other candidates
just don’t get it. she has to be hit again and again. i hate to say it,
but i think only rudy, despite his myriad of faults, has the guts to do it.

WIFE O’BUCKHEAD


18 posted on 09/14/2007 3:57:23 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: stm
That witch will not have a minute’s rest. She will be so busy trying to fend off spears that she will have little time to do anything with her own campaign. I love it.

Her arrogance and temper will have to come out LIVE at some point
19 posted on 09/14/2007 4:02:26 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Bobkk47
The majority of Americans can finally see the Democratic Crime Syndicate for what it really is, and realize that is controlled by left-wing loons.

American public's attention span is as long as it is to the next NFL game
20 posted on 09/14/2007 4:03:44 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

MoveOn.org was CREATED for the specific purpose of diverting media attention and the voters’ skepticism from the very blatant and real bad behavior of the “Former Occupant of the Oval Office, 1993-2001”. This organization is a dinosaur that has lived on far beyond its original reason to exist, because its function has been adapted to the effort to stage a return to the White House by Herself, the Cold and Joyless.

Therefore, if MoveOn.org has slandered a good, decent and honorable member of the US Army, then it stands to reason, that Herself is also part of that slander. Herself has not, and in fact, cannot, disavow of the support received from MoveOn.org both clandestinely and overtly.

Rudy is entirely in the right to whack Herself soundly for this past and current asssociation with MoveOn.org.


21 posted on 09/14/2007 4:05:25 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
See, this is what I predicted. If someone will GO AFTER Hillary---forget all the other Republicans---that person will immediately become the main front runner. Rudy was sagging after Fred entered, and with one ad, he has now regained momentum.

It's not the money, it's the symbolism, and I wish FRED had run this ad!! But God bless Rudy for doing so. He's obviously hit a big nerve.

22 posted on 09/14/2007 4:05:49 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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Yeah right, Moveon is a Clinton Soros front group. To quote some lib I heard on the news, does SHE think we are idiots?

OK the lib was referring to he not she.

23 posted on 09/14/2007 4:06:01 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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24 posted on 09/14/2007 4:06:38 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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Ha Ha Ha...Krauthammer just said Rudy’s ad poked the NYT, Hillary, and MoveOn all in the same ad. All three Republican erogenous zones.


25 posted on 09/14/2007 4:06:59 PM PDT by Southern Partisan ("Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less." ----R. E. Lee)
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What kind of Titan is afraid of a skinny guy with a piece of paper?

The kind that dumb ass NY voters gave a huge majority
26 posted on 09/14/2007 4:07:16 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

LOL...


27 posted on 09/14/2007 4:07:52 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The Psycho Hag is just furious that the ad made clear her true malice and despising for our military, when she not only refused to refute the MoveOn slander tactics, but let her “competent and experienced” mask fall away during her attack on him in the Senate hearing, for all to see her hatred and contempt for our military.

The psycho b*tch could not be a greater danger to our military, and by extension, us and our, than if we elected Qusay Hussien as our next President.

Can someone please tell me what “expirience” Hillary Lecter gained as First “Lady”, that would be a qualifier for a
Presidential run?

I don’t think that frequently bursting into his staff meetings an screaming at her cuckholding mate, about God knows what, gives her ANY kind of experience for being the CinC.


28 posted on 09/14/2007 4:09:21 PM PDT by DGHoodini
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If Rudy-toot comes out and nails Clinton over the Hsu scandal, I'll....I'll...vot...well, let's just say I'll shake his hand if he's ever in Green Bay.

He's still a gun grabber, so he'll not ever be getting my vote.

29 posted on 09/14/2007 4:10:33 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Enterprise
Clinton said, "...this requires the willing suspension of disbelief."
Guliani then swooped in: "I'm not sure what she was trying to say... but she was saying that he wasn't telling the truth."

I'm with Rudy, her statement really doesn't make sense. '...the willing suspension of disbelief ' implies that Petraeus is telling the truth but her tone says the opposite.

30 posted on 09/14/2007 4:12:07 PM PDT by Brasil
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"He'd love nothing more than for her or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says,"

The lack of linkage (i.e. a condemnation from Hillary) is exactly what he is referring to Mr. College Professor.

31 posted on 09/14/2007 4:18:14 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Just being white is not going to be enough anymore.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It’s a damn shame how many people living in this country are planning to “make history” by voting for Hillary and by doing so, electing the first foreign born President of the United States, George Soros.


32 posted on 09/14/2007 4:24:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRATS own failure and defeat. Success and victory really depresses them.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I challenge the Rudy haters to dis Giuliani over this ad.

A brilliant ad slamming Clinton and move on.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L63Ff_mGzs


33 posted on 09/14/2007 4:45:17 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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Hillary Slams Giuliani Over Moveon.org Comments

The best defense is a good offense.

34 posted on 09/14/2007 4:48:44 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians! -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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Clinton's campaign shot back, saying: "It's hardly surprising that Mayor Giuliani is running the first negative ad of the '08 campaign,

Duh! He's speak about Hillary, how could it possibly be positive. I'm waiting for the other candidates to speak out against her - but they are all caught up in 'PC'. She knows Rudy's her worst enemy - not Obama.
35 posted on 09/14/2007 4:49:16 PM PDT by presently no screen name (:)
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See, this is what I predicted. If someone will GO AFTER Hillary---forget all the other Republicans---that person will immediately become the main front runner. Rudy was sagging after Fred entered, and with one ad, he has now regained momentum.

It's not the money, it's the symbolism, and I wish FRED had run this ad!! But God bless Rudy for doing so. He's obviously hit a big nerve.

36 posted on 09/14/2007 4:50:14 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: goldstategop

I didn’t understand one work in that Rush parody.


37 posted on 09/14/2007 4:50:59 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

So true. There are too many that can’t see beyond themselves.


38 posted on 09/14/2007 4:53:38 PM PDT by presently no screen name (:)
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To: Buckhead

What about Freedom Watch? That’s a class act. Ari Fleischer is a spokesman. Looks like a classy, well oiled machine to me, and they are way ahead of Hitlery and her minions at Moveon.


39 posted on 09/14/2007 4:53:51 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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FReeper comments BUMP!,...especially the most derogatory towards the beast.


40 posted on 09/14/2007 4:54:33 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Southern Partisan

That was a funny coment.


41 posted on 09/14/2007 4:55:33 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: finnman69
The Rudy haters are laying low right now, but they'll be back.

I suspect some are taking a little pleasure in this event and will return after their respite.

However, if ANYONE thinks FDT is going to walk to the nomination they're smoking crack.

Rudy is in this to WIN. And the way to win is to beat the dims and their supporters mercilessly and continuously.

Sometimes I wonder if Fred has that in him.

42 posted on 09/14/2007 4:57:07 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"He'd love nothing more than for her or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says," said David Birdsell, professor at Baruch College.

LOL, they always manage to come up with some unctuous dingbat who can't find his ass with both hands and a clue.

43 posted on 09/14/2007 4:58:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: uncbob

Have you ever considered voter fraud - or is she too above that in your opinion?


44 posted on 09/14/2007 4:58:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name (:)
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To: finnman69
I challenge the Rudy haters to dis Giuliani over this ad.

I don't hate Rudy, I just won't vote for him. The ad is a good one and Rudy has the right instincts when taking on the left. A pity he is flipflopped on his pro life stance to become Mayor of New York and a damn shame that his views on my guns is that of a run of the mill lefty.

45 posted on 09/14/2007 5:01:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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” I challenge the Rudy haters to dis Giuliani over this ad. “

A time for unity, not division, this is. Applaud it I do. Also applaud the other candidates (Thompson, Romney) who’ve come out strongly on the same point, and hit her together. Hard. Again and again. We’ll put all our candidates out there and pick from among them. And when we do, we’ll put our differences aside and fight together. For make no mistake, fight we must, and fight together we must, or die we all shall. I’m a Thompson guy with big Rudy differences on social issues, but if he takes the noimination, he can count on me from that day forward. I hope you’ll give the others the same support if one of them gets the nod.


46 posted on 09/14/2007 5:04:45 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: stm

I am not surprised to see Giuliani coming out swinging, but I won’t hold my breath expecting to see the others come out swinging at Hilary. Everyone seems so nicey-nice, honestly. I find Giuliani’s feist refreshing.


47 posted on 09/14/2007 5:08:28 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: L98Fiero
could headline writers get a thesaurus? I am so sick of “slams” I think I am going to puke

Headlines have to fit the space available. Please give us a list of "fresh" 5-letter synonyms for "slams." Rebukes? Nope. Criticizes? Nope. Denounces? Nope. I'm looking forward to your great list.

48 posted on 09/14/2007 5:08:52 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Humble Servant

Uhm no. There won’t be unity among conservatives with a Liberal like Rudy.


49 posted on 09/14/2007 5:12:34 PM PDT by barnicus
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To: Humble Servant

I’ll vote for any of the GOP front runners over Hillary come 2008.


50 posted on 09/14/2007 5:15:05 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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