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Hillary Slams Giuliani Over Moveon.org Comments
WCBSTV.COM ^ | 14 SEPTEMBER 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/14/2007 3:33:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Says Former Mayor's Times Attack Ad Sign Of Desperation

(CBS) NEW YORK -- Ever since Rudy Giuliani aborted his race for Senate against Hillary Clinton in 2000, the political world has been hungering for a re-match between the political titans.

On Friday, with both candidates running for president, we got a taste of what could be.

Suddenly, it's Rudy versus Hillary all over again.

Giuliani plunged head-first into a growing controversy over the activist group Moveon.org.

"Hillary Clinton should be ashamed of herself for that," Giuliani said.

The organization publicly mocked Gen. David Petraeus this week as "General Betray Us." On Friday, Giuliani tried to link Clinton to that comment by purchasing his own ad in the New York Times.

"These times call for statesmanship, not politicians spewing political venom," it reads.

But Clinton had nothing to do with the Moveon ad. Instead, Giuliani cites her comment this week during Petraeus' testimony.

Clinton said, "...this requires the willing suspension of disbelief."

Giuliani then swooped in: "I'm not sure what she was trying to say ... but she was saying that he wasn't telling the truth."

On Friday, Clinton's campaign shot back, saying:

"It's hardly surprising that Mayor Giuliani is running the first negative ad of the '08 campaign, given his inability to justify his unqualified support for President Bush's failed Iraq strategy."

Giuliani's move comes as Fred Thompson is eroding the ex-mayor's lead in the race. This could be Giuliani's way of seizing the momentum again.

"He'd love nothing more than for her or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says," said David Birdsell, professor at Baruch College.

With the war debate intensifying, some anti-war protestors descended upon Clinton's Manhattan office Friday. But fewer than two-dozen protestors showed up.

As the poor turnout over this rally shows, it hasn't been easy to tarnish Clinton over the war issue. But a lot of people are still very eager to try.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; giuliani; hillary; patraeus; rudy
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To: Southern Partisan

That was a funny coment.


41 posted on 09/14/2007 4:55:33 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: finnman69
The Rudy haters are laying low right now, but they'll be back.

I suspect some are taking a little pleasure in this event and will return after their respite.

However, if ANYONE thinks FDT is going to walk to the nomination they're smoking crack.

Rudy is in this to WIN. And the way to win is to beat the dims and their supporters mercilessly and continuously.

Sometimes I wonder if Fred has that in him.

42 posted on 09/14/2007 4:57:07 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"He'd love nothing more than for her or members of her campaign to respond in an agitated way to what is clearly at best a very dubious linkage between what Moveon does and what Hillary Clinton says," said David Birdsell, professor at Baruch College.

LOL, they always manage to come up with some unctuous dingbat who can't find his ass with both hands and a clue.

43 posted on 09/14/2007 4:58:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: uncbob

Have you ever considered voter fraud - or is she too above that in your opinion?


44 posted on 09/14/2007 4:58:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name (:)
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To: finnman69
I challenge the Rudy haters to dis Giuliani over this ad.

I don't hate Rudy, I just won't vote for him. The ad is a good one and Rudy has the right instincts when taking on the left. A pity he is flipflopped on his pro life stance to become Mayor of New York and a damn shame that his views on my guns is that of a run of the mill lefty.

45 posted on 09/14/2007 5:01:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: finnman69

” I challenge the Rudy haters to dis Giuliani over this ad. “

A time for unity, not division, this is. Applaud it I do. Also applaud the other candidates (Thompson, Romney) who’ve come out strongly on the same point, and hit her together. Hard. Again and again. We’ll put all our candidates out there and pick from among them. And when we do, we’ll put our differences aside and fight together. For make no mistake, fight we must, and fight together we must, or die we all shall. I’m a Thompson guy with big Rudy differences on social issues, but if he takes the noimination, he can count on me from that day forward. I hope you’ll give the others the same support if one of them gets the nod.


46 posted on 09/14/2007 5:04:45 PM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: stm

I am not surprised to see Giuliani coming out swinging, but I won’t hold my breath expecting to see the others come out swinging at Hilary. Everyone seems so nicey-nice, honestly. I find Giuliani’s feist refreshing.


47 posted on 09/14/2007 5:08:28 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: L98Fiero
could headline writers get a thesaurus? I am so sick of “slams” I think I am going to puke

Headlines have to fit the space available. Please give us a list of "fresh" 5-letter synonyms for "slams." Rebukes? Nope. Criticizes? Nope. Denounces? Nope. I'm looking forward to your great list.

48 posted on 09/14/2007 5:08:52 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Humble Servant

Uhm no. There won’t be unity among conservatives with a Liberal like Rudy.


49 posted on 09/14/2007 5:12:34 PM PDT by barnicus
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To: Humble Servant

I’ll vote for any of the GOP front runners over Hillary come 2008.


50 posted on 09/14/2007 5:15:05 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Humble Servant

Nice half-time speech, but there may be too many clowns like the previous poster who are of the belief that Rudy will be personally leading the A.T.F. raid on his house.


51 posted on 09/14/2007 5:15:29 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rudy should have taken out Hillary in 2000. He’d have beaten her.


52 posted on 09/14/2007 5:18:19 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Brasil
I'm with Rudy, her statement really doesn't make sense. '...the willing suspension of disbelief ' implies that Petraeus is telling the truth but her tone says the opposite.

Actually "suspension of disbelief" is a literary term inasmuch as a writer or filmmaker must, in a fictional work, get the audience to buy in to the story and believe it on some level.

She's saying that what the General was saying was fiction.

53 posted on 09/14/2007 5:19:45 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: pandoraou812

Hillary should be ashamed of her entire life.


54 posted on 09/14/2007 5:22:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Bernard Marx

“I’m looking forward to your great list.”

Be sure to hold your breath, jerk.


55 posted on 09/14/2007 5:22:35 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: RC2
Have you noticed how Hillary has modified her method of giving speaches?

She has had the best acting coaching that money can buy....oops, that could be given to her. Hollywood loves her. I noticed at the Petraeus hearing that she was starting to sound like Diane Feinstein. That phony wispy voice is so fake.

56 posted on 09/14/2007 5:22:50 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: barnicus

Too bad, that.

But the GOP got stupid in 06 and we’ll probably get just as stupid in 08. Heil Her Heinous.


57 posted on 09/14/2007 5:24:14 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: goldstategop
I'm surprised Hillary responded. Rush's ad was like a torpedo that blew a hole in her campaign battleship. No - its not sinking but it took a blow that drew her attention to the GOP front-runner. Rudy can't buy this kind of publicity. Hillary - you go girl - you go!

It shouldn't be all that suprising, as in doing so she put out a statement that helps bolster her anti-war credentials in the face of Obama's "I was anti-war from the start" message. Hillary! may be ahead of Obama, but she's not going to take that lead for granted. If she sees an opportunity to shore up the soft elements in her own support, or gain new support from amongst the anti-war Left, she'd going to take it.
58 posted on 09/14/2007 5:25:32 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: presently no screen name
Have you ever considered voter fraud - or is she too above that in your opinion?

Yeah NY is conservative

Hillary and Schumer got in through voter fraud
59 posted on 09/14/2007 5:30:09 PM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: Humble Servant

I’m with you, HS, but I won’t like it. Whomever the GOP nominee is, I’ll vote for and support. Until then, I’m with Fred.


60 posted on 09/14/2007 5:33:26 PM PDT by jch10
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