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Converts To Islam Move Up In Cells
Washington Post ^ | 15 September 2007 | Craig Whitlock

Posted on 09/15/2007 4:31:40 AM PDT by shrinkermd

BERLIN -- Religious converts are playing an increasingly influential role in Islamic militant networks, having transformed themselves in recent years from curiosities to key players in terrorist cells in Europe, according to counterterrorism officials and analysts...

...The number of converts, it seems, is definitely on the rise," said Michael Taarnby, a terrorism researcher at the Danish Institute for International Studies. "We've reached a point where I think al-Qaeda and other groups recognize the value of converts, not just from an operational viewpoint but from a cultural one as well."

Religious converts are sometimes more prone to radicalization because of their zeal to prove their newfound faith, analysts said. They are also less likely to attract police scrutiny in Europe, where investigators often rely on outdated demographic profiles in terrorism cases.

Converts are a tiny subset of the Muslim population in Europe, but their numbers are growing in some countries. In Germany, government officials estimated that 4,000 people converted to Islam last year, compared with an annual average of 300 in the late 1990s. Less than 1 percent of Germany's 3.3 million Muslims are converts.

...The trend is not limited to Europe. In Florida, U.S. citizen and convert Jose Padilla was convicted last month on conspiracy charges for participating in an al-Qaeda support cell. In March, David M. Hicks, an Australian convert, became the first prisoner at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be convicted on terrorism charges.

Converts have joined militant groups, including al-Qaeda, for years. Wadih el-Hage, a Lebanese Christian who converted to Islam and became a U.S. citizen, served as an aide to al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in the 1990s and was convicted for his role in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: converts; europe; islam; muhammadsminions; stopislamization; waronislamism

1 posted on 09/15/2007 4:31:48 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
where investigators often rely on outdated demographic profiles

If only 1% of the Muslims in Germany are converts, the "outdated demographic profiles" used for terrorism cases would be appear to have some life left in them.

2 posted on 09/15/2007 4:40:01 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: shrinkermd
Islam isn't a "religion."

It is a Pagan Death Cult.

3 posted on 09/15/2007 4:40:09 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: shrinkermd

Maybe after the EU is Islamic the left will get behind the war.


4 posted on 09/15/2007 4:44:42 AM PDT by justDave
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To: shrinkermd

I’ve had a few conversations with Muslim converts from western nations on the internet. This has led me to a hypothesis.

It would seem that violent prone mentally unstable people with anti social criminal tendencies prefer to think of themselves as pious and religious instead of dangerous and crazy.

Thus it is that violent prone mentally unstable people with anti social criminal tendencies prefer to convert to Islam rather than admit to themselves what they are really.


5 posted on 09/15/2007 4:51:49 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: shrinkermd

On the flip side, I wonder how many of these “converts” are actually Western intelligence agents? By having to rely on Westerners to carry out these attacks, these groups are opening themselves up to massive infiltration.


7 posted on 09/15/2007 5:23:56 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: shrinkermd

A lot of these westerners in name only were taught to hate Western civilization. They are violence-prone and good followers. Their great hope used to be communism. But Islamofascism is also an attractive way for such people to belong to a radical mass movement and channel their hate. You will notice that such converts do not become “moderate” Muslims, whatever that means. No, they convert one day and are building bombs the next, eager to prove that they are more pure and radical than OBL himself. Besides, Islamofascism promises them an eternity in Paradise raping children. What Marx and Lenin offer these savages pales in comparison, so we will see an explosion of Islamofascist converts (pun intended).


8 posted on 09/15/2007 5:45:32 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: arbooz

LOL... What’s that they say a picture is worth in words? Thanks, for the laugh and the pic.


9 posted on 09/15/2007 5:46:41 AM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: shrinkermd
I have to wonder about the psychological make-up of these conversts.

I've long thought that even the muslim-born jihadists are sociopaths for whom the main attraction of Islam is that it gives them the opportunity to commit murder and mayhem while using religion as psychological cover for their insanity.

10 posted on 09/15/2007 5:52:05 AM PDT by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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the main attraction of Islam is that it gives them the opportunity to commit murder and mayhem while using religion as psychological cover for their insanity.

Well, that's what it did for Mohammed. It also permitted him to redefine his tribal (Arab) history of robbery and looting as a spiritual quest.

11 posted on 09/15/2007 6:09:57 AM PDT by livius
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To: shrinkermd

12 posted on 09/15/2007 6:27:13 AM PDT by Gritty (Victory in the war on terrorism must be won in the domain of morals and culture-Serge Trifkovic)
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To: shrinkermd

Sounds like a good way to get plants into the cells.


13 posted on 09/15/2007 6:35:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: rgboomers

“Thus it is that violent prone mentally unstable people with anti social criminal tendencies prefer to convert to Islam rather than admit to themselves what they are really.”

Makes me wonder why our government allows Saudi Arabia to send “missionaries” to our prisons.....


14 posted on 09/15/2007 10:53:45 AM PDT by Infidel1571
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To: shrinkermd

“The Sun Is Rising In The West” bump


15 posted on 09/15/2007 5:08:46 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: rbg81

valid point...


16 posted on 09/15/2007 6:55:40 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: rgboomers

A crazy person will easily blend into the Muslim landscape.


17 posted on 09/15/2007 6:58:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: shrinkermd
The NAZIS, the KKK, etc, etc, etc.....

The history of humanity is peppered with groups that have been built on hatred and death. Islam is just another one. Islam should be treated like the other groups I mention above. Destroyed.

18 posted on 09/15/2007 7:09:22 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: rbg81
On the flip side, I wonder how many of these “converts” are actually Western intelligence agents? By having to rely on Westerners to carry out these attacks, these groups are opening themselves up to massive infiltration.

Very good point. Especially if the 'converts' claim they were previously members of some European terrorist organizations, like Red Army Faction, Baader Meinhoff Gang, or some others from the 70's and 80's, or were allied with them in some way.

19 posted on 09/15/2007 7:14:36 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: shrinkermd

There is no doubt that Islam attracts pathological personalities and those that despise Western culture; however, I suspect that the lack of any spiritual foundation for most of European society attracts a significant number of people to Islam. People need more than the hedonistic philosophy of European society. Many are looking for something to believe in.


20 posted on 09/15/2007 7:34:46 PM PDT by Ferox
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To: Ferox
Prince Charles clearly promotes Islam as the answer to the secularization problem of the West.
21 posted on 09/16/2007 3:57:47 PM PDT by JeepInMazar (http://www.truthformuslims.com)
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