Posted on 09/15/2007 2:30:05 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
To prepare for General David Petraeus's long-awaited testimony on Iraq to Congress last week, the liberal pressure group MoveOn.org wrote itself into the history books with an anti-Petraeus ad so repulsive ...
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America's political spectrum a decade or more in the future will be defined by two parties both born of today's GOP after a natural and painless mitosis. There's at least as much distance between a Rudy Giuliani and a Mike Huckabee as there ever was between JFK and Nixon, or even Adlai Stevenson and Dwight Eisenhower. Americans traditionally like their two opposing parties to differ on domestic affairs but agree on basic foreign policy--not because things are nicer that way; rather because foreign-policy arguments are good for our enemies, bad for our friends, and hugely dangerous to ourselves
(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...
Excerpted the first and last paragraphs, the last paragraph summation being quite interesting.
It is rather fun watching people twist and wriggle in their attempts to pretend that the DNC is anything other than a traditional enemy bent on the destruction of our nation.
I don’t mean that as aimed at you or this particular article posted, just a general observation.
Amen.
Ad Triarios Redisse!
Have you read the whole article yet? It is *not* an apology for the DNC but much rather an indictment on how they’re becoming irrelevant and downright dangerous in their approach to political discourse in the U.S.
Excellent article. Thanks...
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Great post. The above is accurate but very insufficient. Those three traits paint the democrats as if they were naive. They are not. As explained in David Horowitz' Unholy Alliance, both the left and Islam fight for the same goal, defeat of capitalism and the West.
Yes I did read it prior to posting, that’s why I added that bit at the end of my rant lite.
I do understand your asking, I wasn’t much close to on topic. Sorry bout that.
There’s almost a late 1850s feel to our current political divide.
He has explained why the left wants to lose in Iraq. Or, more accurately, wants to see America defeated in Iraq.
It's a history lesson...
Thank you.
A line from an old Sci-Fi (i think it was Heinlein but I’m not sure) the only thing governments fear is people in the streets. If we cannot take and hold the streets of Washington DC and New York, then no victory on foreign fields can save America.
The cards are face up on the table now. The future of America is at stake ... do we succumb to all the evils of the world in which this Nation was built upon resisting? Or do we slink into the sewer like civilizations before us had done?
I think we all know the answer to that
Breathtaking in its clarity of the issues.
Yes. Thanks for saying that. I feel it to. In fact, I don't think the Left can give up, nor can we, so something--one of us--will have to give.
Since the Left's stance emboldens our enemies, likely it will be another attack. But then again, as long as the other half of us remain vigilant, perhaps not.
One thing I've truly admired about Pres Bush, despite my disagreement over immigration, is his integrity and fortitude. He has taken a ton of abuse, but has stuck to his guns on the War. This has mitigated any success the enemy could garner due to our Leftists treason.
The tipping point will be the election. If the Left pulls this off, and Mrs Clinton wins, then Ft Sumter is not far off.
Ad Triarios Redisse!
I question that statement.
The New York Times is suffering from declining readership along with most newspapers.
Ironically, the left in control of our schools has resulted in greater illiteracy. The literate among us are learning more about current events from the Internet than from newspapers written by communist sympathizers.
It doesn't matter what the leftists print if their disciples can't read it.
Pacifist globalism is more closely related to Leninism and the rise of international communism bent on world domination with the Russian revolution being contemp;oraneous with WWI and exploiting the horror of its carnage. Some day soon we’d better wake up and realize that we are kidding ourselves when we think the cold war is over. The other side is spoiing for a rematch.
I concur with you on this, that there is a civil war percolating within our citizenry ... not along geographic/political lines as in the 1800's, but along ideological lines between constitutionalists and tyrannical dictators of which the US Constitution was specifically designed to thwart in the first place. The difference now is that the left politicians refuse to play by constitutional rules and the right is so beholden to 'political correctness'(which the left created) in fear of looking bad politically, that there is a great amount of anger and animosity within the electorate.
Al-Qaeda Criticizes Petraeus Report
Ayman Muhammad Rabaie al-Zawahiri, the al-Qaeda terrorist organization’s second in command after Osama bin Laden, criticized General David Patraeus’ report on the Iraq War as “warmed-over Bush Administration propaganda” that requires “a willing suspension of disbelief on the part of the listener.”
“President Bush’s strategy in Iraq has failed,” Zawahiri continued. “It is time to change course and withdraw the troops so that the Islamification of the country can proceed with a minimum of bloodshed.”
Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei seconded Zawahiri’s take on the General’s report. “It is not a credible report,” Khamenei insisted. “The words of an infidel are not to be trusted.” Khamenei further demanded that President Bush be brought to trial for war crimes, as Saddam Hussein was, and eventually hanged.
In related news, a poll conducted by Zogby International for 911Truth.org found that 61 percent of those calling themselves politically “liberal” or “progressive” would support the idea of putting the President on trial for war crimes. “We need to bring the troops home so they can fight the real enemy—the Republican Party,” said a poll respondent from Washington, D.C. “It was the Bush Administration that dynamited the twin towers. Al-Qaeda is just a scapegoat.”
read more...
http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm
I agree with you on all except on what’s holding the good guys back.
Conservates tend toward the more emotional stable end of the spectrum.
I’m an exception in that I’m a rage junky. It is good that the calm ones hold back too. If it was up to my kind, we’d have begun the blooding the day the tards started playing “up staging games” over the anthrax hit at the congressional offices.
For me, the writing was writ large on the wall that very day. I’ve been marking time waiting for the rest of y’all to catch up.
Bookmark.
Oh my ... that was YOU who tossed me the 'bird' on I-76 the other day ??? /laughs
You are right about this, in fact it is the crux of the problem. Our political leaders are too busy stuffing money in their pockets to be concerned about what is best for the country. Anyone who lives or works inside the Beltway are consumed with their personal wealth and their position relative to their friends, neighbors, and colleagues. They care not about the nation and our future. They will sell us out in a hearbeat, and we should not forget it.
Two things on the battle for our national identity issue:
There’s still more of a probability that it will get settled in the realm of words than in an actual fight. As more folk start giving vent to their real feelers on this problem, the less trendy and safe treason will seem to become. It’s a social game for most of the tards.
The biggest loser so far is the rule of law. There are laws forbidding many of the acts and actions of the betrayers but no one is stepping up to enforce them.
The other possibility is that if it does get ugly, either in harsher verbal spats or in actual fighting, it will likely spread almost immediately to most of the Anglo-sphere. This might end up being a first, as in a truly trans-national civil war.
Of course, I’m no jeenious and I’ve been fighting a bout of insomnia for the last few days, so all this might be as much bizarro world mind fart type fantasy as that purple zebra standing at the other side of the room and trying to talk to me probably is.
thanks, bfl
If you are reading these words and have not yet read the entire article, do yourself a favor right now and do so!
I've often thought about this m'self .. that polits, as a rule, are only concerned for their own monetary well being and political power, that "Mr Smith Goes To Washington" is nothing more than a fantasy for the naive.
However, I *do* have some faith in the human spirit, and that faith isn't relegated to simply politics for politics sake.
Politics is a dirty game, always was, always will be ... its simply human nature, something that can't be changed ... the US Constitution took radical steps to make sure that politicians would be held in check by their fellow citizens, a system which has worked quite well for over two centuries.
The danger now is that an entire major political party has determined that they can flout the law and the Constitution on a regular basis, and go unchecked. This is what the Democrat party has become circa 2007 (and for about 3 decades now). It's a scary scenario, that one major party is willingly wrecking the Constitution, while the other major party isn't doing diddly-squat to counter it.
I fear for the future of our Republic
Fight the real enemy!? It's you!!! I can see the puzzlement in this dweeb's eyes as a patriot squeezes the life force out of his pencil neck. It's obvious he hasn't a clue about the military. If he did he'd know that the military is proud of and happy to do its mission fighting Islamic fascists, even if these girly men are too afraid to do so. However, to think that the troops share their Bush Derangement Syndrome is preposterous. The Left has treated the American fighting man like crap. After 4 years of constant Leftist put downs, slander and treason it may well come to a head.
I've talked to a number of active duty and retired persons this week, and they are outraged over the treatment Pretreaus got, and are awakening to the fact that a Fifth Column exists in this country, with names like Moveon.org, A.N.S.W.E.R. and now the democratic party.
If the troops come home, perhaps they'll want to clean up the filth like this idiot from DC.
Yep. What was old is new again.
“Of course the rankest abuse came from the copperheads, among whom none was more inventive in his vituperation than a Wisconsin editor, Marcus M. Pomeroy. Lincoln, he wrote, was “but the fungus from the corrupt womb of bigotry and fanaticism”—indeed a “worse tyrant and more inhuman butcher than has existed since the days of Nero.” As the election of 1864 approached, Pomeroy editorialized: “The man who votes for Lincoln now is a traitor and murderer.... And if he is elected to misgovern for another four years, we trust some bold hand will pierce his heart with dagger point for the public good.”
Good news from Iraq, i.e. any news of US progress and al-Qaida deaths, is bad for the Dems. They can’t surrender and the public will see that their push for defeat was a failure and they’ll be screwed in 08.
Petraeus may have single-handedly fried the Democratic party before the election has even begun.
“Liberals are loyal to philosophical abstractions—and seek harmony with the French and Germans. Conservatives are loyal to their own nation, and seek harmony with its Founders and heroes and guiding principles.”
Mr Gelernter is a wise man indeed.
If it boils over quess which side the military will be on
Back during the Depression Hoover tried to get legislation in the form of programs similar to those FDR implemented
The democrat congress voted them down because they wanted the depression to last at least long enough to get a democrat president
Of course the voters back then were just as dumb as those today as to how government at the Federal level is set up and Hoover got all the blame
The late War of the Rebellion was not strictly along geographical lines either. Over 50 regiments were raised for the Union from southern states. Northern traitors/Democrats nearly won the election of 1864, and would have, but for Sherman’s capture of Atlanta, and Grant’s liberal leave policy that permitted soldiers to return home to vote.
Excellent article. Which raises the question, why do the libs persist in such a viewpoint after its abject failure in the 1930s?
There is no "will sell us out" about it. Look at the southern border and what they tried to do with the ports deal. We ARE being sold out.
This seems to be a fact. Here in Florida, the St. Pete Times (commonly known as Pravda West), has saturated hundreds of intersections with newssellers, one on each median, to try to boost it circulation. Taken to Court on this issue, the paper was allowed to continue this comical practice, yet the bums were NOT allowed to continue panhandling in the same locations. Shows one who owns the Courts, and Judges. First amendment, doncha'know?
Might as well ask why the libs persist in believing in socialism. It's been a failure since the thirties, as well.
But failure doesn't seem to deter them. Because we're not dealing with a political creed -- it's a matter of faith. Liberalism is a religion.
Like Muslims, liberals don't separate church and state. In essence, they practice their own form of Sharia law, as specified in their very own Koran.
As Americans and as conservatives, it is vital that we understand both Islamists and liberals -- for the same reason.
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