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Climb On Board The 'Ron Paul Revolution'
TheDay ^ | 9/16/2007 | Marc Guttman

Posted on 09/16/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: JTN
Context meaning the question at the press conference he was responding to.
261 posted on 09/16/2007 3:08:14 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: NapkinUser

Is it part of the RuPaul grand plan that you post at least one stupid article like this everyday?


262 posted on 09/16/2007 3:10:06 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: NapkinUser

Is it part of the RuPaul grand plan that you post at least one stupid article like this everyday?


263 posted on 09/16/2007 3:10:08 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: toddlintown
Is it part of the RuPaul grand plan that you post at least one stupid article like this everyday?

It's a solicitation, not an article.

Part of the political process, and quite entertaining.

Andy Jackson drew supporters with whiskey and BBQ.

Paul uses the web.

You know that saying there's always that 10%

There's always that 1% as well

264 posted on 09/16/2007 3:16:58 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: JTN

and what part of DIPLOMACY dont you understand?????????????????????????????????????????????


265 posted on 09/16/2007 3:22:05 PM PDT by ulm1 (“There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them.”)
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To: been_lurking

“A defensive only military posture is a losing posture.”

The old saying that a GOOD offense is the best defense is WRONG. The ONLY defense is offense.


266 posted on 09/16/2007 3:22:32 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: freedom1st

Paul’s bunch reminds me of the Flat Earth Society, ride the train to the edge and where does it go from there? LOL


267 posted on 09/16/2007 3:30:49 PM PDT by gbs
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To: SJackson
As well as the primary source, context please.

The website of the Eisenhower Presidential Center attributes the quote to Ike at a 1953 press conference. A quick search hasn't yet turned up a transcript.

This quote has also been attributed to Ike:

All of us have heard this term 'preventative war' since the earliest days of Hitler. I recall that is about the first time I heard it. In this day and time... I don't believe there is such a thing; and, frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing.

268 posted on 09/16/2007 3:34:30 PM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: billbears
No offense but there's nothing particularly conservative about carrying out Wilsonian nation building. Nothing to do with cowardly, lazy, or sedentary. But rather you declare war, you go to war, and you win the war...

No doubt you would have been vehemently opposed to the Marshall Plan. The function of war is to change the geopolitical facts on the ground so further advancement of national interest is possible. It is not an end in itself.

269 posted on 09/16/2007 3:35:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SJackson
"War settles nothing"

I can't believe Ike said that.

War certainly settled the Nazi's hash. Ike would have agreed, I'm sure.

270 posted on 09/16/2007 3:36:37 PM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: JTN
The website of the Eisenhower Presidential Center attributes the quote to Ike at a 1953 press conference. A quick search hasn't yet turned up a transcript.... This quote has also been attributed to Ike:... All of us have heard this term 'preventative war' since the earliest days of Hitler. I recall that is about the first time I heard it. In this day and time... I don't believe there is such a thing; and, frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing.

Well duhhhhhhh, Paul supporter, I told you where to look for the attibution, I asked for a primary source.

You flunked, OK.

I asked for some context, as in what preemptive war might there have been in November, 1953 Ike would have been commenting on.

Flunked that too.

Came back with a quote, also not primary sourced and hard to find even on the web that essentially says that General Eisenhower, who marched the civilian population of Europe through the death camps to see what they'd done, after the war was a Chamberlain.

Well, primary source and context for your quote, but Paul supporter, I think you're full of shit.

271 posted on 09/16/2007 3:56:03 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: Rush4U
tell me some Ron Paul ideas???
He does not put forth an image of strength or knowledge.
and when he does not support our military and the war on terror then he will not have the support of this family.

he needs to go back to delivering babies, infact I doubt if he could handle that..
post what kind of grades he had in med school and what were his standings??? where does he stand on abortion? and immigration???

272 posted on 09/16/2007 4:12:27 PM PDT by haircutter
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To: JTN

“No longer relevant to a (so called) Modern Society?”

I.E Congressmen Hyde basically just acknowledged that he is not, nor should the Federal Govt be, bound by either the Constitution nor an Oath to the Constitution....


273 posted on 09/16/2007 4:18:44 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: SJackson
Well duhhhhhhh, Paul supporter, I told you where to look for the attibution, I asked for a primary source.

If you don't want to take the Eisenhower Presidential Center's word for it that the quote is real, then that's your choice. I can't force you.

I asked for some context, as in what preemptive war might there have been in November, 1953 Ike would have been commenting on.

It doesn't matter. Ike hated preemptive war, because he hated war in general. Again, if you don't want to believe that, then that's up to you. Came back with a quote, also not primary sourced and hard to find even on the web that essentially says that General Eisenhower, who marched the civilian population of Europe through the death camps to see what they'd done, after the war was a Chamberlain.

Talk about being "full of shit". I bet even your eyes are brown.

274 posted on 09/16/2007 4:31:29 PM PDT by JTN (If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.)
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To: JTN
Talk about being "full of shit". I bet even your eyes are brown.

Right.

Nothing there other than Ron Paul soundbites, thanks a lot.

When you come up with something substantial, with context, let me know.

Oh, I'm sorry, context doesn't matter.

Ike hated preemptive war, having fought in so many preemptive wars, I suppose.

Adios bozo, don't waste by time with soundbites.

BTW, I said General Eisenhower, who marched the civilian population of Europe through the death camps to see what they'd done, after the war was a Chamberlain.

and you came back with the I'm full of shit stuff.

There's no question that Eisenhower recorded the details of the death camps, or that he marched the civilian population through them.

Do you refer to me as having shit-eys because of that, or do you dispute that they were death camps?

275 posted on 09/16/2007 4:51:05 PM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: JTN

We all hate war.

The Muslims started this conflict. What are they grousing about? they’d still be bedouins had we not showed them they were rich with oil.

What a fine thanks we get for lifting them up.

They want war? I say give them bloody red war


276 posted on 09/16/2007 4:54:27 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: JTN
You're like a Lefty. Just say any stupid thing and believe your 'tude provides substance.

Just so you can't say you've never been told.. it doesn't.


277 posted on 09/16/2007 5:03:02 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Guess you did not read the end of my comment.
I will NEVER vote for rudi...which means I’ll NEVER vote for paul. Clear?


278 posted on 09/16/2007 5:03:58 PM PDT by gate2wire
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To: haircutter
tell me some Ron Paul ideas???

Read it and learn something

He does not put forth an image of strength or knowledge.

Neither does the other candidates except for Hunter and Fred Thompson.

and when he does not support our military and the war on terror then he will not have the support of this family.

He voted for Afghanistan and asked the President to declare war twice. He has always been a strong supporter of the military.

he needs to go back to delivering babies, infact I doubt if he could handle that..

He's delivered over 4,000 babies, I'm sure that he can find a job if his presidential run or Congressional re-election doesn't pan out.

post what kind of grades he had in med school and what were his standings???

Irrelevant

where does he stand on abortion? and immigration???

Life and Liberty
Border Security and Immigration Reform

279 posted on 09/16/2007 5:13:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: gate2wire
Guess you did not read the end of my comment.

Perhaps you should re-read your own post again.

You said you'll vote for Rudy before you'll vote for Paul, so if the choices boiled down to the two, you'd vote for the POS liberal over the Constitutionalist.

Nice to see where your priorities are.

280 posted on 09/16/2007 5:16:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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