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Four tales of city dwellers who fled New York
NY Daily News ^ | September 16th 2007 | KIRSTEN DANIS

Posted on 09/16/2007 9:20:10 AM PDT by lowbridge

Four tales of city dwellers who fled New York

More New Yorkers leave the city every year than move here, a trend highlighted in a population study released last week.

The report showed that in 2005, 300,000 people left New York, and only 200,000 arrived from across the U.S. and other countries to replace them.

The results prompted the Daily News to ask: Why did you say goodbye to New York?

Here are the stories we heard:

He's getting more bang for his bucks

Carlos Thompson and his wife owned a house in Brooklyn and made a decent living as graphic designers, but for years he wanted to escape the city's crippling expenses and the threat of terrorism.

Research led Thompson, 36, to the Charlotte area, where the mortgage on his five-bedroom house costs $1,000 a month - a third of what he was paying in Brooklyn. Plenty of other urbanites have relocated to the same area. His broker and builder were former New Yorkers.

"I'm getting a lot more for my money and saving at the same time," said Thompson, a Trinidadian native and the dad of a 7-year-old daughter.

"I do miss my Caribbean food, but other than that, I wouldn't trade it back."

Salary plus kid didn't compute

The first time the Bogens tried to leave New York, it was a bust.

The couple, high school sweethearts from Kentucky who came to New York for college in 1995, fled to Nashville after 9/11. But instead of finding solace, "we spent a lot of time at home watching TV," said Bonnie, 30.

They moved back in December 2002, scoring a one-bedroom Brooklyn apartment for $750 a month. They joined a church and planned to raise a family.

But after their son, Matthew, was born last year, the Bogens slowly realized they could not afford to stay on the salary Josh, 28, made as an NYU computer programmer. They soon returned to Nashville, where they're about to buy a $180,000 house.

Bonnie said she misses New York's street life and diversity, but she's learning to like Nashville, where they're close to their parents, and her husband can come home for lunch. "I think that we have a good balance here," she said.

Bureaucracy drove her away

If you had told Ann Marie Hughes a decade ago that she'd be living in Iowa today, she would have laughed.

Even though her husband grew up in Dubuque, Ann Marie, 38, was a Brooklyn girl from birth. But their plans changed when the couple's third child, Teddy, now 5, developed severe autism. Ann Marie couldn't navigate the city's sluggish bureaucracy to help Teddy and couldn't work while she cared for him.

The couple made the tough decision to send Ann Marie to Iowa with their children while Dan, also 38, stays with relatives in New York for weeks at a time to toil as an ironworker.

For the most part, it has paid off. The family cut their $1,300-a-month housing expense in half, Teddy got help right after the move and the kids can play outside the way Ann Marie remembers doing as a child in Brooklyn.

"I'm living the way I wanted to live in New York," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bluezone; c; exodus; migration; newyork; ny; urban
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Of course, those born and raised in NYC believe it is the center of the Western World, er... center of the known Universe, actually.

You say that like it isn't true. ;-)

lowbridge (Born in Brooklyn, NY. Or, as Ed Norton of The Honeymooners puts it: "I live in the garden spot of the world: Brooklyn, USA!")

51 posted on 09/16/2007 5:29:14 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians! -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: lowbridge

The author must be a graduate of the NY public schools....


52 posted on 09/16/2007 5:36:48 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
We have streets blocked with traffic sitting at lights here in Houston but the Ambulance will just go down the wrong side of the street, against the traffic, making the on coming traffic move over and stop. When they get to the intersection, all the traffic will be stopped in all 4 directions they just switch back over to the proper side of the street. It takes a little more time than zipping along past all the cars but it is better than what you witnessed. I can’t believe NY doesn’t do that.
53 posted on 09/16/2007 6:18:36 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Melas
I will certainly agree with you on country living. We lived in the country for 16 years. We were outside of a small town, about 50 miles from Houston where we were born and had always lived. It was terrible, I hated every minute of it. When we finally moved back to Houston in 1979, I felt like I had been awakened from a long sleep. Houston is a much more pleasant place to live than NYC and has all the amenities you could want plus you have PRIVACY, something you will never have in a small town. gossip gossip gossip gossip I will never ever live in a small town again.
54 posted on 09/16/2007 6:29:27 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: lowbridge

I’m not a fan of city-living, but after checking into Nashville activities on the web, it’s hard to believe that the Bogens couldn’t find anything better to do than to watch TV.


55 posted on 09/16/2007 6:41:23 PM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: Ditter

You may not understand traffic in NYC. There are times when there are no open lanes anywhere, in any direction. The lanes in all 4 directions are completely clogged with traffic and even the intersection is clogged. It is gridlocked. Trying to get anybody to move out of anybody else’s way becomes difficult because nobody can move to create an opening for anybody else to move into.

And ambulances just sit there and wait like everybody else because their is nowhere for anybody to move out of their way.

Welcome to the Insanity if NYC. A great place to visit but hell on earth if you had to live there. You almost couldn’t pay me enough. I say “almost” because, obviously, if you paid me enough, I would have a limo, chauffeur and helicopter pad, etc... and living life on my own schedule. Otherwise, you can flush the whole city. It’s a mess.

GREAT, GREAT fun to visit, though. I have to confess, half the fun is watching what a circus and zoo the place is.


56 posted on 09/16/2007 7:26:27 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yes I have seen NYC several times...... and that was enough. LOL!

Houston has Life Flight helicopters, surely NY has those.


57 posted on 09/16/2007 7:36:27 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Cacique

What the Daily News is NOT telling you is that a slight majority of those leaving are black or hispanic, different from the waves of “flight” in the past.


58 posted on 09/16/2007 8:45:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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To: Ditter

You said it better than I ever could have. It was exactly like I awoke from a long sleep. I guess some people love it, but it wasn’t for. Even the people were something else. I never even began to fit in.


59 posted on 09/17/2007 8:30:30 AM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Cacique

Couldn’t wait to get here and I never want to leave. I LOVE the sound of honking car horns.


60 posted on 09/17/2007 4:12:27 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: lowbridge

I left NY twice. Once to live in Florida, and once to live in Arizona. Boredom drove me back both times. Living in NYC is like owning a Harley. If you have to ask, you wouldn’t understand (not you personally lowbridge).


61 posted on 09/18/2007 3:52:20 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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