Skip to comments.Mayors Take Aim at Gun Violence
Posted on 09/16/2007 2:40:13 PM PDT by flattorney
- - 38 leaders of cities meet in Trenton
TRENTON -- Just two days after an AK-47 assault rifle and several other weapons were confiscated from a city teenager and a Miami-Dade County police officer was shot and killed in Florida, mayors gathered in the capital city for the U.S. Conference of Mayors leadership meeting called attention to the country's growing problem with gun violence.
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MIAMI -- The spray of bullets that killed one Miami-Dade County police officer and hurt three others came from something increasingly common on the city's streets. Miami's Mayor Manny Diaz is speaking out against the weapons and is asking Congress to renew a ban on assault weapons.
"Yesterday's events surrounding the death of a law enforcement officer and the injury of three others in South Florida, once again brings to our attention the dangerous rise of assault rifles in our streets," said Diaz in a statement. "These high powered weapons designed for war have no business in our streets and certainly no business in the hands of criminals who use them against our police and citizenry." High-powered assault weapons like the one believed to have been used in Thursday's attack are becoming the guns of choice for gang members and other violent criminals.
In 2005, the Miami-Dade Police Department reported two homicides involving an assault rifle; by last year there were 10. The department says 15 of its 79 homicides last year involved assault weapons, up from the year before. This year, already 12 of the 60 homicides have involved the high-powered guns.
"I have asked my fellow mayors who are gathered in Trenton, New Jersey, for a meeting of the United States Conference of Mayors leadership, to join me in once again calling on our Congressional leaders to renew the ban on assault weapons. Since the expiration of the ban, we have seen an upward spike in the number of assault weapons in our streets -- weapons that have been confiscated by our police and used to commit numerous crimes as the one used in yesterday's senseless murder."
Carlos Baixauli is a Miami-based special agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. He said the numbers reflect growing availability of the weapons and their elevation to a status symbol among gang members. He adds that the guns are readily available on streets or can be ordered by mail less than $200. "While we support the Constitutional rights of all Americans to own legally obtained weapons, we cannot risk that these highly deadly assault weapons fall into the hands of criminals. The choice is clear: we can rid our cities and streets of these assault weapons, thus making our streets safer, or we can continue to lament the loss of innocent lives as a result of their proliferation," said Diaz.
Sorry, but, an AK-47 is NOT "high powered".
It's not the guns it's the Moose Limbs!
I don’t mean to challenge your statement, but what would be considered high-powered?
It’s the same broken record they played in 1994. The same old saws and lies.
A 30/06, .308 to name but a few.
So a Remington, okay.
All such purchases must go through an FFL, and that includes a background check, which would eliminate the clowns he's talking about. That includes any mail order item. Note that the murderer who bought the rifle was an illegal alien, that used a stolen ID to make the purchase.
gremlins grabbed the quote...
What can I order for $200 by mail?
I might want a couple dozen or so.
I wonder what the gun control Nazi’s would consider a Browning Automatic Rifle? It doesn’t look like an assault rifle. Whoops, never mind, they can’t describe an assault rifle either, it’s a living thought, not a written specific description. High powered will eventually include Daisey B-B guns.
Hah, too right, sadly.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
An AK-47 assault rifle?
Assuming the author isn't a liar, where did a teenager get a Class III selective-fire weapon?
It's almost certainly a Romanian WASR.
I don’t know what the $200 rifles are. Check Shotgun News. I don’t expect much accuracy, or precision out of one of those, so I generally ignore those.
I think we all knew this was coming. How can they be so stupid? Do they REALLY think that criminals are going to turn in their assault weapons? I have one, but you won’t see me out there shooting cops or anyone else because I’m not a criminal. That said, IF they ban them, THEN I will be a criminal, because I’m NOT turning it in to them. I simply do NOT trust the government any more.
How does a private citizen mail order an AK-47 rifle??? Parts meeting BATFE requirements are available, but not the a functional rifle. This BATFE agent does not know the laws that he is suppose to enforce. Send him back to the academy for further training.
what we REALLY need to ask is why is it MIAMI where these “magic ak-47”s appear? It seems just before a press opportunity one of these magically make the news.
$200.00 will buy you an Curio & Relic SKS but you have to have a Federal C&R license to mail order it. BTW a euro made SKS rifle (7.62x39) is a more accurate shooter than most AK types.
You call the dealer, buy it, and have it shipped to your local FFL for pick-up and paperwork.
So, when a black man throws his car into reverse and nearly runs over a (black) state trooper, who shoots into the van because he does not want to get run over, it is racial profiling.
The stupidity of the left is limitless. If we could use their mouths to turn a driveshaft, perpetual motion would be achieved.
Not for $200.00
Not a Muslim Terrorist. Just your average, everyday teenager.
Gosh, you've got to love the Communist MSM and their lackies.
Can somebody please give me a newspaper so I can spew lies with impunity, too? I'm jealous.
That's the way it goes regardless of price. The local FFL usually charges ~$25 transfer fee.
If guns were taken from law abiding citizens, the criminals will not turn in their weapons.
I think that is most frightening.
Isn't it more the cartridge that is "high powered" than it is the rifle?
The young urban black male market. They have violent crime propensities that are very large multiples of the next most dangerous population segment.
LOL that picture is crap. No 6 year old writes that good.
The cartoon is a parody, but a very good one. The dead giveaway is his name, a play on Chuckie Schumer.
The round fired by the M-16 and AK-47 (5.56mm, and 7.62X39) are considered by gunnies to be medium powered. For example, it’s not legal in most states to hunt deer with a 5.56mm rifle.
The next military round up the scale would generally be .308 basically AKA 7.62NATO. This is almost as powerful as the old 30-06, which is high powered in anybody’s book.
“This is almost as powerful as the old 30-06, which is high powered in anybodys book.”
Actually, they’re pretty much even with a slight edge in velocity and accuracy at range to the 308. There’s a lot of empty space in a 30’06 case.
Question: I thought the AK-47 came in select fire semi-auto and full-auto only. Is there a AK-47 model that’s semi-auto only?
There aren’t any semi-auto AK-47s that I’m aware of. There ARE semi-auto copies like the WASR. Perhaps it is a narrow distinction.
You know that, I know that, but the way it came across to the media, a citizen can mail order and receive an AK-47 rifle from a factory.
If the low life clowns had any honor, they'd be IDing the real failures that allowed this guy to even be in the US. He was an llegal, that jumped bond from a prior arrest in '92 for armed violence. He never should have been out on bond, and should have been deported after the case was over. They'd also be going after those that have given probable cause that they're involved in criminal activity-like breakiing the gun laws they have on the books.
Except the .50 caliber shooters, who consider it a Mouse Round. To each his own. Or in my case, all to me. I like 'em all, from .22 rim-fire to .50 BMG. (and beyond).
He's probably had the "advanced course". BATFE agents are the slime at the bottom of the law enforcement barrel.
Oh Really!. Of course beside the fact that it would be federal felony to buy or sell one that way, the prices for all the AK clones I've seen in Shotgun news are well above that. Maybe he'd thinking of the SKS which fires the same cartridge, but has a fixed magazine, 10 rounds IIRC (You'd think I'd know but mine has been sitting in the safe for far too long.)
But even the SKS can not legally be ordered by mail.. well unless you have it shipped to your local Federal Firearms Licensed dealer, paying him a fee to handle the background check and other paperwork.
“I simply do NOT trust the government any more.”
Nor should you.
“The stupidity of the left is limitless.”
Isn’t it, though?
Take the select fire parts out of an AK receiver, make sure there is no hole for a pin to mount auto sear and you have a semi-auto AK. Manufacturers tried to call them SARs (Semi-Auto Rifle) but the name didn’t really catch on.
So where are the criminals getting the full auto/burst fire Assault rifles? Manufacture or importation of of those for civilian use has been banned in the US since 1986.
Or is the Miami-Dade PD blowing smoke out of their asses? Do they know the meanings of the words spewing from their mouths and press releases? Hmm?
A Bonnie and Clyde gun? Never mind that it was even more of a favorite of the Law officers who ambushed and killed Bonnie and Clyde, and lots of others as well.
OTOH, it's really too bad old Miller didn't have a BAR or Thompson to guard his still with, instead of a ratty old Savage sawed off shotgun. Even the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court would likely have found himself able to take judicial notice that those were militarily useful weapons, which could contribute to the effectiveness of a well regulated militia.
“But even the SKS can not legally be ordered by mail.. well unless you have it shipped to your local Federal Firearms Licensed dealer, paying him a fee to handle the background check and other paperwork.”
A C&R license is your friend.
Carlos is also a deceptive bitch.
By blurring the lines between truth, fiction, deception and withholding information, the ATF, certain Mayors and Chiefs of police can convince a gullible public that there are too many "assault weapons" on the streets.
To the lurkers: what you never hear them say is what they consider to be an assault weapon. What you never hear them say is that a *federal firearms license holder* can certainly mail order WHAT THE ATF CONSIDERS TO BE AN ASSAULT WEAPON!! which are typically what ground troops used before 1960. Ma and Pa Kettle AND you and I are not so lucky. We must purchase ours somewhere other than mail-order. So we are talking about single shot, bolt-action rifles for the most part. So these assault weapons they speak of are of the same caliber but certainly not as accurate as your Uncle Gomez's deer gun.
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