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The Party of George Soros
davidlimbaugh.com ^ | 09/17/07 | david limbaugh

Posted on 09/17/2007 6:26:29 PM PDT by lancer256

I don't think nearly enough has been made of the despicable MoveOn.org character assassination attack ad against General David Petraeus and the Democratic leadership's striking refusal to repudiate it. If you want to see the face of the modern Democratic Party, re-read that ad.

The full-page New York Times ad, reportedly purchased at a radical discount, directly accused Petraeus of "cooking the books for the White House," called him "a military man constantly at war with the facts," and said he "is likely to become "General Betray Us."

Lest you think I'm exaggerating, consider the comments of MoveOn's executive director, Eli Pariser. He said, "If you have a general who is being willfully misleading to the public and the Congress about the state of a military endeavor, that's a big problem."

Most Democratic leaders refused to condemn the ad. Some, like Hillary Clinton, independently echoed its sentiment. Clinton unmistakably called Petraeus a liar when she told him, "I think that the reports that you provide to us really require a willing suspension of disbelief."

(Excerpt) Read more at davidlimbaugh.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: limbaugh; moveonorg; patraeus; soros

1 posted on 09/17/2007 6:26:36 PM PDT by lancer256
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To: lancer256

Soros is as big of a traitor as any who has existed. He is a feckless crapweasel with Crissy Matthews and Keith Olbermoann.


2 posted on 09/17/2007 6:33:20 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: lancer256

Did you hear the latest about OJ?

(/sarc)

Because that’s exactly what the sheep are thinking about.


3 posted on 09/17/2007 6:35:13 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Old Sarge

“Because that’s exactly what the sheep are thinking about.”

What does that make you? You brought it up. Evidently, YOU were the one thinking about it. Baaaaaa.


4 posted on 09/17/2007 6:37:26 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: L98Fiero

Sarc tags: they’re there for a reason.


5 posted on 09/17/2007 6:38:49 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake

“Sarc tags: they’re there for a reason.”

Not on what I quoted.


6 posted on 09/17/2007 6:40:01 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: lancer256

What has little Georgie ever done for this country? Absolutely nothing. And yet, so-called “americans” are on the verge of electing his sock puppet, Slick Willie’s wife, to the presidency so they can get “free” healthcare. We don’t deserve this country.


7 posted on 09/17/2007 6:41:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS always skate on ice so thin that their party can't withstand ANY level of criticism.)
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To: L98Fiero

Where are the sheep??? I didn’t see no stinking sheep. We don’t need no stinking sheep.


8 posted on 09/17/2007 6:42:19 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: lancer256

The real irony here is that Gen. Petraeus’s report will be used to justify a troop withdrawl. Few can dispute that the limited surge appears to be working. So is the solution to increase the military and add more troops? Of course not! Lets withdraw troops and guarantee that the limited gains are lost. It is Washington think at its most typical: spin the illusion of victory rather than doing what is necessary to achieve true victory. Even the Republicans are playing along. It is this tendency that may just cause us to lose the War on Terror (Islam).


9 posted on 09/17/2007 6:42:20 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: L98Fiero

On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave Grossman

By LTC (RET) Dave Grossman, author of “On Killing.”

Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:

“Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident.” This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin’s egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

“Then there are the wolves,” the old war veteran said, “and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy.” Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

“Then there are sheepdogs,” he went on, “and I’m a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf.”

If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed

Let me expand on this old soldier’s excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids’ schools.

But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid’s school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep’s only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.

The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.

Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn’t tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, “Baa.”

Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.

The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.

Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how many times you heard the word hero?

Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed right along with the young ones.

Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, “Thank God I wasn’t on one of those planes.” The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, “Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference.” When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.

There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population. There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.

Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I’m proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, “Let’s roll,” which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. — from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund Burke

Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn’t have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.

If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior’s path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.

For example, many officers carry their weapons in church.? They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs.? Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.

I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, “I will never be caught without my gun in church.” I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy’s body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, “Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?”

Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for “heads to roll” if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids’ school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.

Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, “Do you have and idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?”

It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and horror when the wolf shows up.

Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: you didn’t bring your gun, you didn’t train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.

Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11 book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms with our current world situation: “...denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn’t so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling.”

Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level.

And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes. If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be “on” 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself...

“Baa.”

This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth.


10 posted on 09/17/2007 6:46:52 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: txflake; Old Sarge

For the record, when I see self-anointed elitists refer to the American people as sheep, I take offense. The reasons should be obvious.


11 posted on 09/17/2007 6:53:13 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

What an amazing post.


12 posted on 09/17/2007 6:53:58 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: lancer256

Ayman Muhammad Rabaie al-Zawahiri, the al-Qaeda terrorist organization’s second in command after Osama bin Laden, criticized General David Patraeus’ report on the Iraq War as “warmed-over Bush Administration propaganda” that requires “a willing suspension of disbelief on the part of the listener.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


13 posted on 09/17/2007 6:57:39 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: Old Sarge

We’re elitists now? When did you go elite on me, dude?


14 posted on 09/17/2007 6:57:43 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake; Old Sarge; L98Fiero

It is.


15 posted on 09/17/2007 6:57:52 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; L98Fiero; Old Sarge
Before we all step outside, we should probably qualify our terms.

We have hot shooting on Syria, who was holding NK and Iranian nukes, and George Soros funding the painting ouf our best General (for these times) as a traitor, but I double-dog dare you to tell me more than 1% of the populace has even heard of this. Instead, FNC is pumping 'em full of OJ.

I know Old Sarge well enough to know he wasn't making a disparaging remark.

16 posted on 09/17/2007 7:07:11 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: txflake; Old Sarge

We have hot shooting on Syria, who was holding NK and Iranian nukes, and George Soros funding the painting ouf our best General (for these times) as a traitor, but I double-dog dare you to tell me more than 1% of the populace has even heard of this. Instead, FNC is pumping ‘em full of OJ.

IAF had some help from USAF and US Army.

Fox is feeding the sheep.

The sheepdog is on watch.


17 posted on 09/17/2007 7:10:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep.”

I’m sure he didn’t. He just used a poor analogy. It projects a negative connotation, though. Sheep are weak, mindless grazers. He admits he is not a sheep. He’s a sheepdog. This article and that analogy would not have ever been used had he not seen himself as the sheep-dog. Do you honestly think he would have just come to the conclusion one day, “Hey, I’m a sheep”. No, I seriously doubt that. It’s real easy to call someone else sheep when you consider yourself a sheep-dog. Classic elitism.

The dog isn’t paid by the sheep to protect them. The sheep do not arm themselves in case the dog is asleep or looking the other way. If the dog isn’t fed, he will turn on the sheep. If the dog is not trained properly, the sheep will be killed and the dog will not care. Sheep could care less about a dog. The sheep do not honor the dog. Sheep do not select the dog’s master. The dog is not selected from the flock.

We are citizens with free and unique minds. We are strong and venerable. We are not sheep.

No offense to the LTC but I find that essay over-simplistic and more than a little elitist.


18 posted on 09/17/2007 7:14:32 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t know why this dustup even started.


19 posted on 09/17/2007 7:15:19 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: L98Fiero

I as an NCO, find the LTC’s analogy straight one.

I as an American, agree also.

Most people are sheep and rely on the Police or Military to secure their way of life and would never consider subjecting themselves to serve in that manner.

They are happy to be sheep.

To each thier own.

Some are happy to act as a sheepdog.


20 posted on 09/17/2007 7:24:37 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: txflake

Agree.


21 posted on 09/17/2007 7:25:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Half the sheep turning against the sheepdogs.... That’s what Soros has accomplished.


22 posted on 09/17/2007 7:36:05 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: L98Fiero

You are in my prayers and I shall continue to defend you, whether I think you deserve it or not.


23 posted on 09/17/2007 8:18:03 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: Jet Jaguar
After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, “Thank God I wasn’t on one of those planes.” The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, “Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference.” When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.

We are so there.

24 posted on 09/17/2007 8:24:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: shankbear

Actually, I don’t think you can technucally call him a traiter, since he isn’t an American! He just runs the Democrat party. He is a demented and pervetrted old communist/socialist.


25 posted on 09/17/2007 9:11:11 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: gidget7

Must be some RICO law they could nail him on, throw him under the jail and confiscate his piles of $.


26 posted on 09/17/2007 9:19:37 PM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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To: dusttoyou

For a foreigner to tamper with US elections is prohibited. What is his citizenship?


27 posted on 09/17/2007 9:23:28 PM PDT by txhurl
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