Skip to comments.Postal workers didn't deliver, but still got paid
Posted on 09/18/2007 2:41:52 PM PDT by MichiganMan
GRAND RAPIDS -- If not rain nor snow nor dark of night, what did prompt reports last winter that mail went undelivered on the Northwest Side of Grand Rapids?
The Postal Service isn't saying, even though nearly half of the 59 letter carriers from the postal station at 1625 Walker Ave. NW faced suspensions ranging from two days to nine months.
The last of the suspensions of 29 workers ended in August. But officials refused to reveal details. In fact, with the help of their unions and arbitration, all of the workers received back pay for their time off, said Jim Mruk, spokesman for the Postal Service Great Lakes Region in Chicago.
No one was fired, and no criminal charges were brought, he said.
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No one was fired, and no criminal charges were brought, he said....
they are government...no one would expect anything different...
as for suspensions...they probably were suspended with pay...the govt. way!!!
Post “Newman” photo here...
Yep. Just like they’re planning to “suspend” government services if our leaders can’t make a budget plan work by Oct. 1.
Gov’t workers will be paid. People will complain that they can’t get their license plates renewed, and they’ll say- ok, go ahead, jack up the income tax already so I can have my gov’t services back.
And then Granholm gets what she wants. Makes me crazy.
From the article:
...with the help of their unions and arbitration, all of the workers received back pay for their time off...
Its fun to hate the state workers, but they're not the ones making the budget decisions, and they're the ones that don't get paid when stuff like this happens.
That’s one heck of a union
Our National Department of Health Care will look much like the Postal Serivice if Hitlery has her way.
I suspect there is much more to this story. Not delivering mail is a biggie; that will get you canned in a heartbeat. The other thing odd is the number of carriers involved. This wasn't just a Neuman here and there, this was 50% of that office. The USPS is keeping quiet, and understandably so. If they have a large group of derelict carriers that looks bad. If they have a management team that bollixed things up so badly that arbitrators ruled against them entirely that looks bad. It would seem that the only thing the USPS can do now is keep quiet and wait.
Lastly, anyone who thinks this kind stuff doesn't go on at UPS, FEDEX and all kinds of other union shops needs to hustle on down to the clue store with money in hand.
At least once a month we don't get mail. The following day, we will get a a letter from the postmaster saying that we didn't get mail because there was a vehicle too close to our mail box. Honestly, there are times that a car is over ten feet away from the box.
If the letter carrier has to get out of her vehicle, she won't deliver. It is more work to send us the form letter than to deliver the mail.
So do I. I have seen a lot of USPS disciplinary action, and I've never heard of a 9 month suspension. The standard progressive discipline is Letter of Warning, 3 day suspension (no pay), 7 day suspension (no pay) 14 day suspension (no pay) then fired. I'm thinking they had some pretty new supervisor who told them it was OK, then avoided discipline themselves claiming they weren't trained. USPS does fire carriers for not delivering the mail, even if it is standard mail, but most carriers value their job enough to stop if they get the Letter of Warning (scary, I know...).
It's getting tough to get people willing to tell other people what to do (we call that supervising), and lots of places are running with only acting supervisors with an occasional stop by a higher level manager. You can't just close down a station because no one wants to supervise there, so sometimes you take what you can get for the time being while trying to develop someone from somewhere else to do the job. Hiring supervisors from outside the USPS doesn't work out that well either (it's tried occasionally) because the government regulations on the Postal Service require doing things that don't make sense in the real world. The Unions had a hand in that too ;-)
Perhaps you could explain why you persist in parking too close to your mailbox when you know it causes a problem for your carrier. I have a book I read to my kids called "What if Everybody Did?" I'm sure you get the idea. Are you special, or is it just more convenient to rag on the carrier because your vehicles wander aimlessly outside of your building? The least amount of work would be to park your vehicles correctly, as you are asked to do, what, about once per month?
You HAVE to be kidding. Seriously. It is not even a matter of her having to get off of her fat ass...she could still maneuver her truck to the mailbox (she just won't) AND we aren't that close to the mailbox anyway AND we pull a bit forward at the request of our elderly neighbor across the street to give here room to pull out AND the USPS doesnt' decide how to "properly park my car" in front of MY house AND you are a rude jackass.
We have thos same suveillance bridges at our large facility and the inspectors can only bust in case of theft or violence.
People not in performance of their duties is totally outside the inspector’s jurisdiction.Thats up to the employee’s immediate supervisor to admiinster disciplinary action.
I am fortunate to have an excellent supervisor.She respects us enough as adults to leave us alone as long as we are moving the mail.
She WILL show no mercy to anyone who takes advantage of her.Most of us are smart enough,however,to do what we are supposed to do and not have to worry about being treated like a child with someone micromanaging your every move.
...written by Emanuel Kant.
LOL! AND you are Half Vast at that!
AND a dumb Vast for that matter. Too bad you are not a smart vast.
“One bridge was for inspectors to look for workers sleeping or otherwise not doing their job. The other bridge was for inspectors looking for workers opening and stealing mail.”
Been going on since Day 1 of the Postal Inspectors division.
Logic dictates that the shooter must have been deaf, otherwise she would be gone.
“Logic dictates that the shooter must have been deaf, otherwise she would be gone.”
I think he threw himself into the volley rather than hear her wail anymore.
That's great! There are still plenty out there, it's just getting tougher and tougher to get new ones trained, and to get them to be willing to stay on board.
How true.They begged ME to be a supervisor but I declined because upper management is so tyrannical and bull headed.
I am not a big fan of the APWU either but the only reason they are necessary is to keep the bullies in management from being as abusive as they often are.