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Army Begins Testing Soldiers' Brains
LasVegasSun.com ^ | September 19, 2007 | By KRISTIN M. HALL

Posted on 09/19/2007 3:25:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde

FORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (AP) - Before they leave for Iraq, thousands of troops with the 101st Airborne Division line up at laptop computers to take a test: basic math, matching numbers and symbols, and identifying patterns. They press a button quickly to measure response time.

It's all part of a fledgling Army program that records how soldiers' brains work when healthy, giving doctors baseline data to help diagnose and treat them if they come back with a traumatic brain injury - the signature injury of the Iraq war....

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 101airborne; brain; braininjury; fortcampbell; tbi; traumaticbraininjury; usarmy; wia
Perhaps the Democrats could have suggested this program years ago instead of sandbagging everything the Bush Admin has tried to do and shoehorning millions of illegals onto the public purse. But I digress...
1 posted on 09/19/2007 3:25:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde
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To: Albion Wilde

I was reading somewhere that they were going to start in the House and Senate, but couldn’t find any donors that test subjects that were qualified.


2 posted on 09/19/2007 3:29:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen; 3D-JOY; AConservativeRealist; ALlRightAllTheTime; Angelwood; BillF; BufordP; ...

Ping!


3 posted on 09/19/2007 3:30:32 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen; 3D-JOY; AConservativeRealist; ALlRightAllTheTime; Angelwood; BillF; BufordP; ...

Ping!


4 posted on 09/19/2007 3:30:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

Sorry for the double pings, folks. Cable company was out here today messing with the cables.


5 posted on 09/19/2007 3:32:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde
Army Begins Testing Soldiers' Brains
Oop. you said Testing...

Thought the title was tasting.

6 posted on 09/19/2007 3:34:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Keeping my foot on the necks of liberals since 1980.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Went to the brain store, the signs read:
Army brains $3.50/lb
Navy brains $4.50/lb
Air Force brains $6.00/lb
Marine brains $77.00/lb

I asked how come Marine brains were so much.
The answer “do you know how many Marines we have to kill to get a pound?”

....Bob


7 posted on 09/19/2007 3:37:56 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I wan’t this program instituted for voters!!


8 posted on 09/19/2007 3:38:24 PM PDT by chaos_5 (... I'm just another angry white male ...)
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To: Albion Wilde
Here are a few other FR threads about brain injury that are of interest to those with family members affected, or those who work with returning vets:

Ruptured eardrums after battlefield blast signal possible brain injury in troops, doctors say

Thousands of GIs Cope With Brain Damage

Gov't struggles to cope with wounded GIs

Increased Awareness Will Improve Brain-Injury Treatment, Officials Say

9 posted on 09/19/2007 3:40:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Lokibob

Now thats phunny!!!


10 posted on 09/19/2007 3:43:07 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: DoughtyOne; MrEdd; Lokibob; chaos_5

With the greatest respect, I note that none of you has ever had a loved one with a combat brain injury. It is no laughing matter.


11 posted on 09/19/2007 3:44:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL good one!


12 posted on 09/19/2007 3:45:29 PM PDT by NordP (No running or relenting. The problem will be dealt with. Decisively. Systematically. Permanently.)
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To: Lokibob

They tested Marine brains but the findings were negligible.


13 posted on 09/19/2007 3:45:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney longed to serve in Vietnam, ask me for the quote.)
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To: Albion Wilde

This is a marked improvement from the 1950’s and 1960’s when the Army tested LSD, nuclear fallout, and etc. on the soldiers.


14 posted on 09/19/2007 3:46:22 PM PDT by PeterFinn (Do not wish ill for your enemies, plan it.)
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To: Albion Wilde

This may be a good idea. I believe the tests used to evaluate soldiers in the past were too quick to get rid of some good folks who wanted to stay.


15 posted on 09/19/2007 3:47:55 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul
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To: Albion Wilde

I realize now, that you were posting a serious subject, but the origonal post gave no indication of how you intended to steer this post.

Remember, we posted BEFORE you posted the links to other brain injury links...

....Bob


16 posted on 09/19/2007 3:47:57 PM PDT by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Albion Wilde

You were right to call us on that. I didn’t read the article and was making light of a headline. I appologize for belittling a serious issue. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/19/2007 3:49:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks for your conciliatory comment!

Many of us in the DC Chapter also volunteer or visit at Walter Reed, where we have seen brain-injured troops in recovery. You watch them struggle for recognition by doctors and administrators of how subtle and hard-to-define their injuries may be. TBIs are harder to treat in many respects than physical injuries, and more so because the person may look fine on the outside, but face lots of challenges with memory and other cognitive skills.


18 posted on 09/19/2007 4:48:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

This is really great news and long needed.

W


19 posted on 09/19/2007 4:49:11 PM PDT by WLR (Build the fence)
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To: Lokibob

M.A.R.I.N.E.

Muscles
Are
Required
Intelligence
Not
Essential


20 posted on 09/19/2007 4:51:07 PM PDT by Radix (Nothing else to do but raise eyebrows and wreak havoc on FR.com)
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To: WLR
This is really great news and long needed.

I'm glad you think so, too. One of the fellows whose wife started the fuss over Walter Reed was a TBI patient who was having trouble establishing whether he was injured and how severely, because apparently he had not done as well in school as the average soldier. Not having a baseline to compare against can mean a loss of benefits and rehabilitation services if the head-wound patient does not have a way to demonstrate a measurable loss of functioning. These tests aim to help with that.

21 posted on 09/19/2007 4:57:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

I want you to know something. I jumped all over an A.P. thread the other day on this topic. You may have seen it. I am VERY leary of the media’s attention to this subject.

What you and I think about our troops, IS NOT shared by the leftists. Many of them are closet or not Moveon.org or DU leftists. One thing is for certain, they are leftists. They hate our military with a passion. These folks show up in pink. You know what I mean.

They trashed our men in the 60s and 70s. They’re doing it again today. And I still remember the reception they built for our men back then, based on medical reports.

I am very leery of publicizing the medical problems of our men through the media. Let Laura Ingraham, and other conservative interests desiminate this information on our boards and through emails.

Do not let the left capitalize on this, like they did in the 60s and 70s. They made monsters out of our men back then, who then couldn’t find work when they returned home.

I hope you understand where I’m coming from.


22 posted on 09/19/2007 5:01:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: Albion Wilde

A friend sent me a newspaper article today, yes paper - no link or url - about a neuroscientific study stating that liberal and conservative brains are measurably different in how they process information. Of course, the test makers had preconceived ideas of what makes a liberal or a conservative, and tailored the test to “prove” their thesis.

“Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments; whereas liberals are more open to new experiences.”

What bilge!


23 posted on 09/19/2007 6:54:11 PM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: maica

I’m pretty sure it was posted here on FR. If you have the title, you might find it with a search and see that most FReepers agree with your “review” 100%!


24 posted on 09/19/2007 6:56:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: DoughtyOne
Do not let the left capitalize on this, like they did in the 60s and 70s. They made monsters out of our men back then, who then couldn’t find work when they returned home. I hope you understand where I’m coming from

I do understand your concern. This article showed up under "Medical News" on a news site, not front-page news. I tend to think of FR as a mostly military-supporting organization, but of course there are trolls. It may interest you to know that the Heritage Foundation did a study and found that the average intelligence and schooling achievements of our troops is higher than the national average.

This testing is not an intelligence test per se, but a benchmark test in case of later injury, to make a comparison to pinpoint what areas of the brain have been affected.

25 posted on 09/19/2007 7:03:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( America: “...the most benign hegemon in history.” —Mark Steyn)
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To: Albion Wilde

It’s my perception that we have the most capable intelligent well prepared military force in history. The weapons on top of that are obviously a plus.

I don’t discount these folks at all. Nice talking to you.


26 posted on 09/19/2007 9:56:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Sorry Hillderella, but the Hsu fits... and king Lerach would like a call. < wicked witch laughter >)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think this is progress, what they are doing. We will all just have to be vigilant and relentless against it’s misuse.

W


27 posted on 09/21/2007 9:22:23 AM PDT by WLR (Build the Fence)
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To: WLR

Thank you. I’m all for that. You take care.


28 posted on 09/21/2007 9:52:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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