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Giuliani Seeking Support From NRA (Pigs now fly, Satan buys parka, etc.)
The Washington Post ^ | September 20, 2007 | Michael D. Shear and Anne E. Kornblut

Posted on 09/20/2007 1:24:55 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Rudolph W. Giuliani will go before the rank and file of the National Rifle Association on Friday, seeking support for his Republican presidential campaign from a group he once likened to "extremists" for its efforts to repeal the ban on assault weapons.

But even as the former New York mayor strives to burnish his Second Amendment credentials at the gathering in Washington, a panel of federal judges in his home town will be hearing arguments on the lawsuit that Giuliani filed seven years ago aimed at punishing the nation's gun manufacturers for violent crimes involving firearms.

Announcing the lawsuit in 2000, then-Mayor Giuliani wrote in his weekly column about issues facing the city that "this is an industry which profits from the suffering of innocent people. The lawsuit is intended to end the free pass that the gun industry has enjoyed for a very long time, which has resulted in too many avoidable deaths."

He called the lawsuit "an aggressive step towards restoring accountability to an industry that profits from the suffering of others." The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit will decide whether the lawsuit -- against Colt, Glock, Smith & Wesson and others -- can move forward despite federal legislation that attempted to grant immunity to the companies.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani's presidential campaign yesterday declined to say whether he still supports the lawsuit or the goals he laid out in 2000.

"Mayor Giuliani successfully worked to get illegal guns out of the hands of criminals in order to transform a city out of control," said spokeswoman Maria Comella. "By being tough on gun crimes and enforcing the laws on the books, New York City's murder rate was cut by 66 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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I can't believe that the National Rifle Association is even considering an endorsement of one of the biggest gun-grabbers in American history.
1 posted on 09/20/2007 1:24:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess i should join GOA now huh


2 posted on 09/20/2007 1:28:39 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Jim Robinson; Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger; ejonesie22; All

Ping!!


3 posted on 09/20/2007 1:30:18 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

why do all the conservative movements sell out! where is the contract with America 6 years of congress and white house still roe v wade! CAIR and ACLU get to sue the FBI !! It’s madness. NRA even sitting down with Rudy... it ain’t right.


4 posted on 09/20/2007 1:31:15 AM PDT by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Giuliani is a complete fraud.


5 posted on 09/20/2007 1:31:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Maybe the WaPo got it wrong and the National RINOs Association is thinking of endorsing Rudy!!


6 posted on 09/20/2007 1:37:26 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The NRA gave a B rating to Mitt for his AWB in Massachusetts, why not not give Rudy a B also..both RINOs
7 posted on 09/20/2007 2:49:35 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amnesty for illegals,
support for the homosexual agenda,
high tax and spend,
pro abortion,
gun control,

I think Rudy is not the man for me.


8 posted on 09/20/2007 2:49:52 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That the NRA would give an audience to RootieTootie boggles my mind. I don’t believe he will secure an endorsement from them; I will resign from the NRA if they do.


9 posted on 09/20/2007 3:06:24 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad (Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Viking Kitties!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
Its never “selling out” to sit down with one of the leading Republican candidates for President. A discussion is not an endorsement, and it does no one any good to pretend that Rudy isn’t a real player in this election. As of right now, he’s the leading Republican candidate.

The fact of the matter is, he might end up winning. And if he does, we want to be able to persuade him toward our way of thinking as much as possible. We won’t be able to do that by sitting around screaming to each other about how much of an a-hole we think he is. If he wins, he’s going to need to compromise with congress. Thats a regrettable but unavoidable fact. We need to be in a position to make sure that when that happens, he throws someone else's baby overboard first. As it stands right now, there would be nothing stopping him from tossing the second amendment into Ted Kennedy’s furnace. But maybe if we meet with him and discuss it, he’ll begin to look at someone else as more dispensable.

Use your head a little.

10 posted on 09/20/2007 3:21:04 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. . . even as the former New York mayor strives to burnish his Second Amendment credentials at the gathering in Washington, a panel of federal judges in his home town will be hearing arguments on the lawsuit that Giuliani filed seven years ago aimed at punishing the nation's gun manufacturers for violent crimes involving firearms.

The irony here is unbelievable. LOL.

11 posted on 09/20/2007 3:23:34 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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"I can't believe that the National Rifle Association is even considering an endorsement of one of the biggest gun-grabbers in American history."

The NRA is NOT considering endorsing Guiliani. They simply invited him along with other candidates to speak at a meeting.

The probability of Guiliani garnering an NRA endorsement is zero.

12 posted on 09/20/2007 3:25:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: tcostell

Rudy’s not the leader anymore in some major polls: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899408/posts


13 posted on 09/20/2007 3:25:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (https://www.fred08.com/contribute.aspx?RefererID=c637caaa-315c-4b4c-9967-08d864cd0791)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most polls still say he is, but that’s really not the point. I’m not a Rudy supporter, and if you look at my posts on the topic I’ve been as critical as anyone. But I still maintain that it doesn’t mean you don’t even discuss it with him.


14 posted on 09/20/2007 3:39:23 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can't believe that the National Rifle Association is even considering an endorsement of one of the biggest gun-grabbers in American history.

The NRA has given many different persons an opportunity to present their views on gun control, 2d Amendment issues, CMP, etc.

No endorsement is conferred, nor should it be assumed as a result.

I am an NRA Life Member and I assure you that there are many just like me that would mail their membership cards back to the NRA if they endorsed Rooty.

Except maybe for Dog Catcher.

15 posted on 09/20/2007 3:47:05 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Death to islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RG has no shame. He is Mister Right..ya got a problem with that???

Just ask him, he said that he is "I'm probably one of the four or five best known Americans in the world
16 posted on 09/20/2007 3:48:13 AM PDT by Fred ("What is it that makes liberals think the best way to help someone is to punish them" FDT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next thing we will see is ole Rooty walking into a store and saying “Is thisth where I can geth me a huntin’ licenth”?


17 posted on 09/20/2007 3:53:43 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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It will be interesting to see what lies he tells to try to convince the gunnies that he in not really a gungrabber and he doesn’t believe that NRA is a problem and not really a bunch of red neck thugs. Can a Leopard change his spots?
barbra ann
18 posted on 09/20/2007 4:14:40 AM PDT by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Man, what a dolt. I can’t see the NRA giving him the time of day, let alone an endorsement. Particularly now that FRed is in the race.


19 posted on 09/20/2007 4:38:54 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Being normal is not necessarily a virtue. It rather denotes a lack of courage.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Let me see if I can be the first


20 posted on 09/20/2007 4:45:13 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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