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Some Oregon schools adopting Mexican curriculum
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_091907_education_mexican_curriculum_.ede64566.html ^ | 9-20-07

Posted on 09/20/2007 9:48:23 AM PDT by Hydroshock

Some Oregon high schools are adopting Mexico's public school curriculum to help educate Spanish-speaking students with textbooks, an online Web site, DVDs and CDs provided free by Mexico to teach math, science and even U.S. history.

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The Oregon Department of Education and Mexico's Secretariat of Public Education are discussing aligning their curricula so courses will be valid in both countries.

Similar ventures are under way in Yakima, Wash., San Diego, Calif., and Austin, Texas.

"Students come to us with such complex issues," said Tim King, director of Clackamas Middle College and Clackamas Web Academy, where a virtual course using Mexico's learning materials got started this week.

(Excerpt) Read more at kgw.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: oregon; school

1 posted on 09/20/2007 9:48:24 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

I just have to say that I am so happy that my tax dollars are there to educate Mexicans with their curriculum.

It’s what I always hoped my tax money would be used for.


2 posted on 09/20/2007 9:51:16 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom
When Mexico is stepping up to teach their citizens in America about their own take on American History, we have ceased to be a sovereign nation.
3 posted on 09/20/2007 10:00:22 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: Hydroshock

I don’t think this is legal.


4 posted on 09/20/2007 10:01:36 AM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: Hydroshock

Egads! Mexicanization of America!


5 posted on 09/20/2007 10:01:54 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Hydroshock

Whenever Oregon does something crazy, it only attracts more crazies to Oregon.


6 posted on 09/20/2007 10:02:43 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: weegee

Clinton/Bush and the rest of both parties have sat idly by while the USA has been colonized.


7 posted on 09/20/2007 10:02:51 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hydroshock
U.S. public education isn't bad enough ... we have to drag it further down to Mexican standards?
8 posted on 09/20/2007 10:04:09 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: Hydroshock

Why should we follow the example of a third world country?

Time for separation of school and state.


9 posted on 09/20/2007 10:07:00 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: Hydroshock

This from the same state that once outlawed private schools. Fortunately the US Supreme Court struck down the law.


10 posted on 09/20/2007 10:09:31 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: weegee; All

Mexico teaching Americans about their history.

I agree, we should examine these history texts carefully, and make sure they have as balanced a presentation of Mexico/US historical relations as our own textbooks have.

In general, since we seem to be stuck with de facto immigration, illegal or otherwise, it makes some sense to get free books to teach them with. The educated are generally productive and make a contribution wherever they are liviing. The uneducated are much more likely to place a social/economic burden on the place where they live. So I say, “viva la educacion”, so long as it is fair and accurate.

It also makes sense that education in any language improves learning over all. I know that when I studied Spanish in high school, my English, especially spelling, skills improved quite a bit. Since it is also easier to learn in your early language, subsequent learning of the same subjects in another language is facilitated. From what I have observed of various immigrants, including my grandparents, the more educated ones are more insistant that their children learn English well.


11 posted on 09/20/2007 10:17:19 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Hydroshock
Mexican colonization of western USA proceeding nicely I see. So when is the vote to have Calif and Oregon rejoin Mexico scheduled for? Surely the time most be getting close.
12 posted on 09/20/2007 10:30:05 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; Capagrl; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.

I'm speechless......

13 posted on 09/20/2007 10:42:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gleeaikin

Good Lord, this is a horrible idea!!!

How can you even think of justifying it? The illegals don’t belong here in the first place; send them home.

The legal immigrants can learn English like those that went before them. Keeping them illiterate in English is doing them no favors.

My grandparents came from the old country and spoke their native language at home. My father, born and raised in the US, couldn’t speak English until he went to school. They thought he was retarded at first because he didn’t respond then they spoke to him until they realized that he didn’t speak English.

He continued to speak the family’s native language at home and when he graduated from high school he had the highest average for all four years of high school of his whole graduating class. He was perfectly fluent in both languages without a trace of accent in either.

Non-English speakers don’t need to be coddled. It only hurts them and society.


14 posted on 09/20/2007 10:51:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

This is insane. These people are not thinking clearly. I’m glad I homeschool in the heartland!!


15 posted on 09/20/2007 10:51:44 AM PDT by samiam1972 (I'm a mommy again!)
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To: Hydroshock

It is amazing, isn’t it?

And some on this board will still say that the government schools can be fixed.

Leave the schools, run for your lives, bankrupt the system so that it crumbles, falls and collapses, please!!!


17 posted on 09/20/2007 11:27:30 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Hydroshock

I just found this thread with a definition of a Democrat: ‘one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses.’”

That fits this situation perfectly!!!

For Reference:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899635/posts


18 posted on 09/20/2007 11:32:58 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: metmom; T.L.Sink; SSS Two; PhilDragoo; AZhardliner; EternalVigilance; 2ndDivisionVet; Delphinium; ..

It’s not just in California anymore.


19 posted on 09/20/2007 4:40:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Hydroshock

Mean they are all going for food stamps, free education and a demand for special treatment?


20 posted on 09/20/2007 4:41:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Hydroshock

Sounds logical, they share a border and all...


21 posted on 09/20/2007 5:05:06 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I’ll give you a quote from a recent best seller on the illegal invsaion:
“In California and Texas, Americans of European descent are already a minority and their share of the population falls every year. Hispanics account for 34 percent of our two most populous states and their numbers are surging.”
“California is coming home to Mexico. California is becoming - indeed has become - a Third World state.”


22 posted on 09/20/2007 5:16:11 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: metmom

First of all, I am thinking of legal immigrants in school.

Naturally they should become fluent in English. Nevertheless, allowing them to continue to learn, even if it is in Spanish, while they are learning English, is more efficient than allowing them to fall behind until they can learn in English. The results with your father point to the benefits of growing up bilingual.


23 posted on 09/20/2007 5:31:20 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Hydroshock

Taco this.


24 posted on 09/20/2007 5:32:24 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: Hydroshock

I have not heard of this in Oregon Schools at all.

Hmmmmmm.


25 posted on 09/20/2007 5:49:43 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Hydroshock; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; ...
Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

26 posted on 09/20/2007 5:52:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Hydroshock

Someone from Or please find one of these books and see if they preach the old bigoted Mexican line of hate America.


27 posted on 09/20/2007 5:54:08 PM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the ping.

I was just reading this article.

My son just said that they should go back to Mexico if they are going to learn those things in their language anyway.


28 posted on 09/20/2007 5:58:08 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: junta
Well I don’t speak Spanish and so would not be able to read the books to see if that is the case.
29 posted on 09/20/2007 6:00:23 PM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: Hydroshock

If it were not for States like Oregon, we would not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Thank you very little Tom Potter, et al...


30 posted on 09/20/2007 6:17:14 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: gleeaikin

But he didn’t learn in his native language till he caught up. Learning in your native language is the surest way to slow down picking up English. Sure it ain’t easy, but oh well, millions of immigrant kids have done it for centuries. They can do it now.

The other issue, is that they are not likely to fall behind much. Starting school at 5 is way too early. Studies have been done that demonstrate that starting a kid in fourth or fifth grade is just as effective, if not more, than starting them too young. The year or so it takes for a kid to become fluent enough in English to catch up in some subjects is well worth it for the gains they make in mastering English.

The slight gains in a few subjects (and math tends to not count in this) is way outweighed by the usefulness of mastering English more quickly.


31 posted on 09/20/2007 6:20:38 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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