Posted on 09/20/2007 7:33:48 PM PDT by cgk
FBI suppressed video of TWA explosion
 Recovered debris from TWA 800 |
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More than six years after retired United Airline captain Ray Lahr launched his Freedom of Information Act petition into the fate of TWA Flight 800, the FBI has shown him –likely by accident – one seriously smoking gun.
The Boeing 747 blew up off the coast of Long Island on July 17, 1996. One of the FBI documents received recently by Lahr and his attorney details a communication that took place six days after the crash:
"The FBI guy who looked at this must not have read it, or not have realized what it would reveal, Otherwise he would have redacted most of it as before."
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(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Excerpt from 2nd column: Are feds hiding crash imagery?
Three weeks ago, I wrote about the FBI's unwitting revelation of a potential smoking gun in the TWA Flight 800 case.
I refer specifically to an amateur video shot five days before the plane's demise. The video captured an image, concedes the FBI, "consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD [Man-portable air-defense] missile."
I argued that the suppression of this video for 11 years strengthens the case that other imagery – in particular an amateur video shot on the night of the crash, July 17, 1996 – might also have been suppressed.
This argument elicited some provocative responses from some very good sources. Let me cite a few. The first one comes from Atlanta, Ga.
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He was on Coast-to-coast AM last Saturday.
some is Lame Brain , not all,,..Don’t Brown Nose,,
TWA800 was BLOWN out of the sky that night. Our Government knows it, and many others, including myself, believe it to be true.
I don’t buy the crapcake explanation that it was a short on the wiring...blah, blah, blah.
Not many do. So, yeah, the feds have hidden the truth from us, imo. \hardhat on!
At least I'm not the only one who thinks so.
hhhmmm, now why would clinton’s fbi do that?
Jack Cashill is entertaining but WND is a conspiracy rag
Only the people that shines their shoes believe the Gov. is always right..
Yeah, if the truth were know, then we would have been forced to confront possible Islamic terrorism way back in the late 90s. Perhaps, if had done this forcefully, 9/11 could have been averted.
Not as embarrassing as the cover-up.
There was video shown on local NY television of the projectile hitting the plane. I saw it with my own eyes. They had that pulled within 24 hours and never showed it again. There were numerous witnesses interviewed on TV that said they saw a projectile headed toward the plane as well.
They just stopped showing the video and said that everyone who saw it was mistaken. End of story.
Refresh my memory. Did anyone important die on that plane?
I was thinking about this the other day, we haven't heard of a domestic crash in some time...
To whom?
After reading all the reports on this at the time and over the following years, it seems to me that the evidence was overwhelming that TWA 800 was brought down by a missile.
Several witnesses who had been airforce pilots testified that the explosion was the wrong color for a fuel explosion. And there were numerous other problems with the official explanation.
If it was a missile, then there were two possibilities raised at the time: terrorists in a small boat, or a stray missile from the US naval exercise in the area.
In my opinion, the second theory can be ruled out. If a missile went astray during the exercise, I doubt that it would be possible to keep it secret, since there would have been numerous witnesses on the ship in question, and keeping a secret among that many people just isn’t feasible.
That leaves the other alternative, and a plausible explanation for why it was hushed up: clinton didn’t want to have to do anything in response to a Muslim terrorist attack. So he ordered the FBI to cover it up.
Keeping that secret is far more plausible, because the clintonoids in the FBI who were responsible were at high levels and eminently blackmailable. An ordinary sailor wouldl have no strong reasons to keep the secret, but a high-level FBI agent implicated in clintonoid corruption certainly would.
If the fuel tank failed (and that is extremely unlikely, technically), then why wasn’t Boeing sued? The obvious answer is that Boeing refused to go along with a bogus story that discredited them until clinton agreed to hold them harmless.
Just Americans,,no one important...Dipstick
Every last soul was important to the people who lost family that day.
Did anyone important die on that plane?
Everyone was important to someone on that plane.
I do however think I know what you meant, NO Ron Brown was on another plane that hit a mountain. Vince Foster was NOT on a plane at the time of his death, at least we don’t think so.
yet all the conspiracy theorists want to talk about United 93...
We know for a fact that cameras and film were confiscated from many people on Long Island who took pictures of the explosion. I wish there were just ONE smart person who never mentioned they had such photos, someone who has kept them all this time to prove what really happened.
If such photos exist, the person(s) who has them should come forward.
You people are embarrassing. Do a little homework.
“WND is a conspiracy rag”
That is what Dan Rather and CBS were saying about FreeRepublic a few years ago. Until....
Just MHO
And yes, as you've heard and doubtless know, everyone on board was important to someone.
Clinton announced that he would be showing up at the airport to comfort the families of the dead.
Cardinal O Connor told him, if he showed up at the airport, he would leave.
Clinton backed down and did not show up.
Cardinal O Connor had to be dead for Clinton to show up at St Patricks.
That adds to his credibility
Maybe Sandy "socks" Burglar can explain!!!
I agree.
Especially important to me were the 21 wonderful people from my small town in PA. who perished that night...14 fine boys and girls from the HS French club, and their seven chaperones.
ALL the passengers and crew were important. Their families deserve to know the truth of what happened that night.
My pastor's nephew did
Anyone here seen “The Megafix” by Jack Cashill?
When George Stephanopolis was already a network commentator after coming from the Clinton administration he was discussing the issue of terrorist acts. He rattled off a list of terrorist events which had occurred during the last 10 years. He included TWA 800. I did a double take, but nobody on the set challenged him or batted an eye.
I have always read the posts on this topic since I had taken flight TWA 800 in April of that year. I still have my seat assignment coupon on the wall of my office at work.
So very sad.
The FBI was scared of Clinton, they had all the ammo they needed to impeach him early in his presidency.
So why was the destruction of Flt 800 by missle kept secret? Any one special on board, like maybe a Chinese fund raiser about to talk, or maybe Ron ( 45 cal hole in the head)Brown's cousin, or a woman in a blue dress ?
Your guest is likely better than mine.
I agree the kook conspiracies are embarrassing. But have you read much about the known facts of this incident?
He's not the only one:
BTW: that is quite a memento - enough to make you shudder just to look at it?
Ever hear of the Liberty?
TWA 800 "It wasn't terrorists. It couldn't have been."
ML/NJ
I have heard other reports of seeing the missile coming from out at sea.
I wonder if our navy may have been involved but in trying to intercept the missile before it hit the plane.
The NTSB witness group reviewed the summaries and determined that the documents contained 736 witness accounts.[6] Of these, the group determined that 670 witness reported seeing something that probably related to the accident, and 250 reported hearing something that was likely related to the accident.[6] 258 accounts were characterized as “streak-of-light” witnesses (”an object moving in the sky...variously described [as] a point of light, fireworks, a flare, a shooting star, or something similar.”)[6] Of these 258 witnesses, 38 reported that the streak was ascending vertically or nearly so, 18 indicated that it originated from the surface of the earth, and 7 reported that it originated at the horizon.[6]
599 witnesses reported a fireball; of these 264 reported seeing the fireball originate, 200 reported seeing the fireball split into two fireballs, and 217 reported observing the fireball hit the surface of the water, or disappear below the horizon.[6] 210 witnesses reported seeing both a fireball and a streak of light.[6]
The government (both Clinton and Bush Justice Depts.) surpressed outside lab findings from reputable labs that they themselves use in cases, former military pilots' testimony, individual private pilots, witnesses who had absolutely no reason to lie about seeing the exact same thing, miles apart who never met, spoke nor even knew of one another's existence, reassigned navy personnel who were on duty in area, out of the country for years.
Sounds like perhaps a little CYA of people
Hi cgk, regardless of the source of the post the same comments and questions have come from others over the years.
Some questions need answering.
We don’t keep secrets very well.
Something like this, impossible to keep secret.
So, 5 days before the airliner goes down, someone sees something that sorta looks like a SAM. So a SAM must've brought down the plane nearly a week later? Where is the logic in this reasoning? I'm sure in the week preceding the crash someone thinks they saw Elvis too. So does that mean it was obviously Elvis that shot it down?
Did the cardinal have a specific issue with Clinton (this was pre-Lewinsky, but post-Gennifer Flowers and a thousand others) or did he just detest him because Clinton is a miserable excuse for a human being?
Thanks for the name of Mohammed Ferrat. Just a quick search on google reveals a lot. Clinton was something else.
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