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Cashill: FBI suppressed video of TWA (800) explosion / Are feds hiding crash imagery?
WND ^ | 8/30 & 9/20 | Jack Cashilll

Posted on 09/20/2007 7:33:48 PM PDT by cgk

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Anyone care to follow up on this? You blow the front off that plane, and it loses the power control to the fuel pumps, and as much fuel as those engines need to run there’s no way on God’s Green Earth they will keep pushing the plane up. The CIA LIED. The FBI LIED. To say nothing of our vaunted MSM and their ‘investigative’ journalism.

Missile or bomb — both make more sense than the center fuel tank fiasco.


101 posted on 09/20/2007 9:27:42 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: willk
This conspiracy stuff is embarrasing

Some conspiracies are real. Calling something a conspiracy doesn't automatically make the claim kooky, just as it doesn't automatically make the claim true.

102 posted on 09/20/2007 9:30:43 PM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: Cicero
Another possibility was put forward by James Sanders in his Downing of TWA Flight 800. He says the terrorists intended to ram a airliner departing JFK with a smaller plane packed with explosives. US intelligence learned of the plot and alerted the US Navy. The Navy attempted to shoot down the smaller plane with two missiles. One hit TWA800, which explains the propellant residue, and the other hit the smaller plane, which explains the large, non-fuel explosion external to TWA800, but close enough that the concussion destroyed it.

The Clinton administration covered it up because the Olympics were to start in a few days and many participant teams would not have been able to fly in if the US shut down air traffic on the east coast. Also, the nominating convention was just months away.
103 posted on 09/20/2007 9:30:52 PM PDT by foxfield
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To: DoughtyOne

Is he still around? I haven’t seen his “there is no terrorism” routine in years. I thought he went away with JohnHK (who hasn’t really gone away at all).


104 posted on 09/20/2007 9:33:24 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: TChris
con- spir - a - cy
Pronunciation Key - [kuhn-spir-uh-see] Pronunciation
noun, plural -cies.
1. the act of conspiring.
2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.

Whoa... something involving two or more people? How outrageous! Only a certifiable nutcase could believe that two or more people could actually plan some sort of wrongdoing.

Seriously, these knee-jerk deniers need to buy themselves a new word.

105 posted on 09/20/2007 9:41:05 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: CondorFlight

We’ve had terrorist attacks since 9-11-2001 in America.

The anthrax mailings
The LAX Air Israel counter shooting
The Tampa Teen Kamekazi
The DC Sniper Duo
The guy who blew himself up outside the football stadium in Oklahoma
The Seattle Jewish Community Center shooting
The Utah mall shooting
The “Florida” Egyptian and Pakistani college kids who were apprehended in South Carolina with bomb materials (and jihadist training films they produce on their computer)

Additionally we’ve had 2 Americans convicted of training for jihad with Al Qaida AFTER the 9-11 attacks (both convicted this year, one in Texas, one in California).

Thwarted plots include blowing up the Brooklyn Bridge and the dirty bomb attack.

At the time, the authorities denied many of these were terrorist acts (including the Tampa Teen even when they held his suicide note which specifically called them terrorist acts and made a bomb threat against the Super Bowl).

Our government has been proven to lie about terrorist strikes when they happen on US soil. Keep us calm.

This is not to say that everything is an act of terrorist or requires a larger conspiracy plotting the action. I’m just pointing out that the government has routinely lied in such matters.


106 posted on 09/20/2007 9:41:38 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: cgk

Not to worry folks, I ajm little over half way through with NIGHTFAÑLL, written by Nelson DeMille about this same subject. By tomorrow I should be able to tell you what and who blew up TWA800.


107 posted on 09/20/2007 9:41:57 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: cgk

Could the terrorist who is responsible for this be coming to speak at Columbia University?


108 posted on 09/20/2007 9:42:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

We moved 3 years ago, so I know it’s in this house,I’ve watched it since we got here. I just looked and found the Peggy Noonan C-Span Stuff I have, and when my wife gets in here tonight I’ll ask her to find this. I paid $60-80.00 for it back around 2000 and it was well worth it. He was so damn concerned about NOT jumping to conclusions, the dirty S.O.B.

I just did a cursory search on C-Span Archives and didn’t come up with it, but found his words from the press conference which are below. When we find it on this property, and I will, we’ll get that online for the world to see and I’ll ping you. It’s short:

Remarks on the Aircraft Tragedy in East Moriches, New York, and an Exchange With Reporters
July 18th, 1996

The President: I’d like to say a few words about the crash last night. First, on behalf of the American people, I want to say to the families of the passengers of Flight 800, [xiv]1 we are well aware that only the passage of time, the love of your family, and faith in God can ease your pain, but America stands with you. Our thoughts, our prayers have been with your through the night, and they will be with you in the days to come.

Our Government is doing everything we can to continue the search for survivors and to find out the causes of this accident. The Chief of Staff, Leon Panetta, has just met in the White House Situation Room with all the agencies involved and has finished briefing me on our response. I’ve asked him to ensure that our response will continue to be prompt, effective, and comprehensive.

Right now the Coast Guard, the National Transportation Safety Board, the FAA, and the FBI are on the scene of the crash. As of now, no survivors have been found. Hundreds of rescue personnel rushed to help in pitch dark, lit only by the flames of burning wreckage. And I want to thank them for their brave work in these treacherous waters on behalf of the people who were on that flight.

We do not know what caused this tragedy. I want to say that again; we do not know as of this moment what caused this tragedy. We are beginning the painstaking process of piecing together what happened. Additional briefings to provide the latest details of what is being done will be coordinated by the Department of Transportation and will be given to you on a regular basis. We will determine what happened. But for now, I want to caution again the American people against jumping to any conclusions and ask that today, overwhelmingly, our people remember the families of the people who are on that flight in their prayers.

Thank you very much.

Q. Are you worried that it is terrorism?

Q. Mr. President, are you doing anything further on the issue of airline safety? Are you ordering any steps today, any action that you think might be warranted?

The President. Terry [Terence Hunt, Associated Press], I want to wait, first of all, until we at least get further along in this investigation. I think we need to focus on this investigation now.

Q. Are you worried, sir, that there is some kind of increase in terrorism in this country now? And what are you doing to try to get at least in position to combat that, if it is the reason for this crash?

The President. Well, we are doing a number of things continuously to try to continue to upgrade the safety of our infrastructure and the ability of the United States to protect itself from terrorism. That’s one of the reasons I pushed so hard for the antiterrorism legislation.

But I want to caution the American people; we have no evidence—we have no evidence on this flight yet that would indicate the cause of the accident. And I want to remind you that when we had the terrible tragedy in Oklahoma City, a lot of people immediately concluded that this must have been done by some force outside our country, and it appears that that was not the case now. So let’s wait until we see the evidence. We are working hard on this.

I just spoke with Mayor Giuliani and Governor Pataki, who are most concerned right now with the victims and seeing that the families get notified quickly, and we’re working on that with them. But they said that they were quite confident that the Federal people who were on the ground were doing everything they could. They are very, very good at piecing these things together, and we need to let them do their work and not jump to any conclusions.

Q. ——Giuliani was quite critical of the management of TWA, Mr. President——

Q. How would you characterize——

The President. One at a time.

Q. Mr. President, how would you characterize the various phone calls of individuals claiming so-called responsibility that have come into various news organizations and law enforcement authorities?

The President. Well, I wouldn’t characterize them yet. Again, it’s hard to know. You know, sometimes such calls are accurate; sometimes such calls are attempting to ride along on a tragedy. And therefore I believe we should wait for the evidence. We will find out what happened. Let’s wait for the evidence.

Q. Mr. President, Mayor Giuliani was quite critical of the senior management of TWA, which he said was inadequately staffing the situation there last night. He praised the Federal effort. Have you guys any indication that the airline is not doing all it could, or have you spoken with the airline, have the Federal authorities spoken with the airline about——

The President. Well, let me say, last night—I stayed up until a little past midnight last night, but I was depending more on you all than anything else, once I got my preliminary reports. And then this morning I’ve been more concerned with making sure we were doing our job. So this issue with TWA and the notification of families has just been presented to me. We will do what we can. I can’t believe the airline doesn’t want to do the right thing. They may be—you know, everybody, when something like this happens, may be a little bit in shock at the moment. We’ll look into that and see whether there’s anything we can do.

But I have no—again, the main thing I want to say to the American people today is, we are working overtime on this. Do not jump to conclusions. Let’s wait until we get the facts, and let’s remember the families. Thank you.”


109 posted on 09/20/2007 9:42:47 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: ladyjane

“Was it George Stephanopolis who said on television that when the missle hit TWA800 they all went to the situation room of the White House? Someone else from the Clinton White House also said something similar.”

President Clinton was giving a speech at 8:30 p.m. at the Sheraton Washington in D.C. So I’m not sure who “they all” would be.


110 posted on 09/20/2007 9:45:10 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: papasmurf

I agree with you papasmurf (ducks for cover)


111 posted on 09/20/2007 9:47:21 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Don't like my attitude? Then get one of your own!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Me, too. It happened so soon after routine air service resumed following 9/11 that when it happened, I knew it wouldn’t be connected to terrorism because that would have decimated the airline industry more than it had been, and made Americans even more paranoid and fearful. I think it was a cover-up, but a necessary one.


112 posted on 09/20/2007 9:52:10 PM PDT by JennysCool (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: Aglooka
A MANPAD (shoulder fired surface to air missile) has a solid propellant based rocket motor that fires for only 1 or 2 seconds. The remainder of the flight is then a coast starting at somewhat over Mach 1.

I keep hearing about a streak of flame approaching TWA-800. This is not commensurate with a MANPAD.

This jihadi propaganda video of an SA-7 launch in Afghanistan refutes that claim. Also, the claim that most of the flight of such a missile is "coasting" *upwards* defies the physical laws of ballistics. Aerodynamic drag and gravity limits the height of low powered projectiles, and only high powered antiaircraft artillery like the German 88mm flak guns can reach a significant altitude. Nothing that a human can hold and fire can reach a significant altitude if the projectile is entirely, or almost entirely, ballistic in nature rather than self powered for the majority of the flight time.

Shooting Down an American A-10 Jet ->/a>

113 posted on 09/20/2007 10:01:58 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Pagey

“They may be—you know, everybody, when something like this happens, may be a little bit in shock at the moment.”

Gee. Like President Bush when he was told about the Twin Towers?


114 posted on 09/20/2007 10:03:09 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: cgk

Naw, the Feds are up front with the American people...They would never hide anything...


115 posted on 09/20/2007 10:05:28 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Cicero

Agreed.

Also, it was also less than four months until the presidential election so Clinton surely didn’t want anything other than “accident” as a news story.


116 posted on 09/20/2007 10:08:00 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: cgk

Islamism.


117 posted on 09/20/2007 10:11:51 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: rbg81
Yeah, if the truth were know, then we would have been forced to confront possible Islamic terrorism way back in the late 90s

I hope they finally also bring out all the evidence there was regarding another person - Arabic looking - involved in the Oklahoma bombing.

Clinton never seemed to want his fun being the leader of the world - in his eyes - to be interfered with by having to take on some heavy work.

Then too, one could wonder = since they weren't adverse to taking big money from foreign sources - who knows where additional foreign sources may have been?

I do believe the clintooons will have a lot to answer for one day///too bad so many of us have had/are answering for their actions - or lack thereof - for years.

118 posted on 09/20/2007 10:13:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: willk
Yes, as someone who has met Cashill and we have mutual friends going back to KC, Jack the Hack went over th edge a few years ago. When I saw him on TV saying that terrorists flew a single engine plane loaded with explosives flew into flight 800 that was enough. He also wrote a bunch of embarassing and retracted net articles on the innocence of the Slepian murderer - until he pleaded guilty.

Oddly enough, I really admire his intellect, warm personality, and out of the box thinking.

119 posted on 09/20/2007 10:14:23 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: cgk
Over 20 people reported seeing something like a surface to air missile. Remember similar incidents on the west coast. I believe an Alaskan and Hawaiian Airlines flights that went down over water in similar circumstances.
120 posted on 09/20/2007 10:20:08 PM PDT by Sammy67 (Other Flights Downed)
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To: willk

Jet fuel (kerosene) is extremely stable and the 747 is the most perfect aircraft ever designed. imo

I think the government is full of crap; I think they lie because people wouldn’t fly otherwise.


121 posted on 09/20/2007 10:24:22 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
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To: Palladin
"We know for a fact that cameras and film were confiscated from many people on Long Island who took pictures of the explosion."

What alleged "fact" do you have for that statement. And who is "we".

122 posted on 09/20/2007 10:40:08 PM PDT by Hal1950
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To: hercuroc

How did you come across this?


123 posted on 09/20/2007 11:00:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

“...someone thinks they saw Elvis too. So does that mean...Elvis that shot it down?”

If something that stupid is all you can contribute, why not just sit there quietly and learn?


124 posted on 09/20/2007 11:01:21 PM PDT by beelzepug ("One should never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

He has posted in the last couple of months. I believe that if you’ll go back less than ten posts, you’ll find another TWA 800 thread. He seems to show up on them within minutes.

You can look at his posts.

Look at your profile. In the top right corner you can place an ID into the box and go to his page. Then hit find in forum.


125 posted on 09/20/2007 11:04:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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To: mazza
Yes, all of them.
I, like my USMC friends, am not an ex-TWA’er but a former-TWA’er and that makes all the difference. Those killed were my brothers and sisters(fellow employees) and my charges(passengers). Every one is remembered and mourned by some of us. No, I won’t get over it.

I don’t know from conspiracy and cover-up and think it unlikely that the story will change much unless somebody steps up with some pretty huge evidence. I do know that I will never stop lamenting lost friends and the loss of the airline that was the “love of my life”.

126 posted on 09/20/2007 11:07:41 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: penelopesire

very interesting indeed.....


127 posted on 09/20/2007 11:09:49 PM PDT by tina07
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To: weegee

You left out the Fort Dix Six, I think that it was called that..they were training in my daughter’s backyard in Pennsylvania. They were planning to kill soldiers at Fort Dix, one of them delivered pizza to Fort Dix and had access to the base.


128 posted on 09/20/2007 11:23:29 PM PDT by tina07
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I saw that video too within a day or so after the crash. Nothing was ever really said about it, and I’ve never seen the clip again. I don’t buy into conspiracy theories. I don’t think Clinton would of targeted the plane. Its more likely a cover up. This happened just a few months before the 1996 election. If this is actually terrorism, then Its more likely this was covered up so as not to affect Clinton’s re-election. He wasn’t exactly considered a millitary kind of President. This would of killed his re-election. The video did look like a projectile hitting it, but I remember there was something about it that left me wondering if it wasn’t an optical illusion, and it was actually debris falling from the plane just before it broke up. I only saw the video once, and 11 years has clouded some of the recollection. I can’t say I saw I missile, but that video sure looked like it.
129 posted on 09/20/2007 11:48:11 PM PDT by skully (Worry if something that worked in a cartoon...works in real life!!!)
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To: willk
This conspiracy stuff is embarrasing.

But nothing like as embarrassing as the video produced by the NTSB that tried to explain how a heavily laden 747 that was lumbering along at best rate of climb would, after having broken in two just forward of the wings, continue to climb for over 3000 more feet before falling into the ocean.

Now THAT'S embarrassing!

130 posted on 09/21/2007 12:15:19 AM PDT by Wil H (Turning $1000 into $100,000 through cattle futures requires the "willing suspension of disbelief")
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To: cgk
I doubt a shoulder launched missile would of brought down, in that fashion a 747. First the range would of been extreme, especially for a Soviet, but even American missile. Second, it would of tracked on the exhaust plume of one of the four engines. If it managed to hit the engine, losing the engine woud not of immediately brought the plane down. There is a fair chance the aircraft could of returned with a engine gone. Happens all the time. Anyways, there would of been radio communication, and cockpit voice of the pilots dealing with an engine failure. How long have video cameras been in existence? Do you think if some Islamic idiots did this they would not of filmed and claimed credit?
131 posted on 09/21/2007 1:06:28 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: Wil H
The aircraft was not fully loaded, either fuel or passengers. All aircraft are balanced for and aft. When the 747 had the front nose blown off, it lost tons of balance, making the tail heavier. The nose rises. Engines keep turning, the aircraft climbs. Boeing center fuel tanks have blown up before this event.
132 posted on 09/21/2007 1:14:34 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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To: CondorFlight

Agreed. At the time (1996) I assumed clinton would suppress this due to an election in a couple of months, but after seeing the Oklahoma University attempted bombing evolve on this forum a while back it does seem to be a clear understanding between government and the media, at a non-political level, to control coverage.

The AA crash in Queens in late 2001 is another example which might qualify.


133 posted on 09/21/2007 2:27:46 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: papasmurf

You should be flamed. There is no evidence that this happened, other than people wanting blame Clinton for something. I dislike the Clintons, always have always will, but this makes people look like wackos.


134 posted on 09/21/2007 4:02:09 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: willk

Maybe so but with the 24/7 cable shows after all these years I have not seen or heard ONE of the HUNDREDS of eye witnesses to this plume from a rocket or missle on any show.There were hundreds of eye witnesses ,where are they ?


135 posted on 09/21/2007 4:13:10 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: cgk

136 posted on 09/21/2007 4:18:53 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: ballplayer

Go back and search the FR archives. The reports were fairly substantial.

PS If those don’t exist, then it merely adds fuel to the fire.


137 posted on 09/21/2007 4:20:53 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: ladyjane
Was it George Stephanopolis who said on television that when the missle hit TWA800 they all went to the situation room of the White House?

Do you believe everything Stephanopolis says?

138 posted on 09/21/2007 4:26:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: StolarStorm
It wasn’t a manpad, it was test of an anti-missile system..... thus the supression. Would have killed off a big company the defense department depends on.

So it's your contention that the Defense Department tested an anti-missile system by firing one into the busiest commercial air corridor in the world? Just how stupid do you think the military is?

139 posted on 09/21/2007 4:28:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Palladin
Especially important to me were the 21 wonderful people from my small town in PA. who perished that night...14 fine boys and girls from the HS French club, and their seven chaperones.

I live in Williamsport and I get choked up everytime I pass the memorial erected next to the Montoursville High School.

140 posted on 09/21/2007 4:29:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
John Kerry also called it an attack twice on national television inside of two weeks (9/11 on Larry King, 9/14 on Hardball).

If John Kerry told me that the sun rose in the east and set in the west I'd head for California to watch the sunrise over the Pacific Ocean.

141 posted on 09/21/2007 4:30:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: cgk

“Adding a new level of intrigue to the investigation is the fact that the video in question appears to have been shot on July 12, 1996, five days before the crash. “

The missile hung in the air for five days? That beats the so-called “Magic Bullet” of the Conspiracy Theorists.


142 posted on 09/21/2007 4:31:07 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: ballplayer

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b51b9c04932.htm


143 posted on 09/21/2007 4:31:37 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: TMSuchman
While I was attending my va medical retirement classes in San Diego, there was a Navy diver who stated that he was there on the recovery site and there were SEALs there & they were moving the missile parts off into deeper water so no one could ever find them.

Did he say how he was able to identify all the missile fragments from the thousands and thousands of airplane fragments?

144 posted on 09/21/2007 4:32:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Cvengr

I said I did not see any of them on television,I read about them to


145 posted on 09/21/2007 4:38:27 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Sammy67
Over 20 people reported seeing something like a surface to air missile. Remember similar incidents on the west coast. I believe an Alaskan and Hawaiian Airlines flights that went down over water in similar circumstances.

It was Alaskan Airlines, and the conditions were in no way similar. The airplane was bound from Mexico to Seattle and had declared an emergency. It was trying to make the LA Airport when it went out of control and crashed. It was determined that a failure in the horizontal stabilizer trim system caused the crash.

146 posted on 09/21/2007 4:39:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: foxfield

I read somewhere (don’t ask me where after all these years and all these threads!) that TWA 800 was actually not the target. An El-Al plane was supposed to depart at that time, but there was a delay and TWA 800 left in its place, passing along the beach at just the time the El Al plane would have done. I don’t know if that’s true, but it would certainly make sense, if the plane was shot down by jihadi nutcases (remember, the Palestinians were really attacking Israel in a big way at that time). Their failure to get that plane, plus fear of having the US cut off their funds if they were indeed Palestinian-linked, might have been one of the reasons they never went public and bragged about this.

Also, I was living in New York City and I recall a report that a couple of weeks after the attack, they found some sort of launching stand in the dunes on Long Island. Was it for a missile? Or was it just for fireworks? I don’t know, and I don’t recall what happened to that report. But I do know that there were teams searching the dunes all along that stretch of coast for evidence of some kind of launching device or some debris left by the firing of a rocket. This was reported in the newspapers at the time, indicating that their first thought was a missile attack.

That’s interesting about the Olympics, and I’m sure it factored into Clinton’s thinking.


147 posted on 09/21/2007 4:52:25 AM PDT by livius
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To: Non-Sequitur

The test was public knowledge. Check archives for tests at that time.


148 posted on 09/21/2007 4:55:30 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Cicero
I don’t absolutely know if it’s true, but there were several stories back then about Chinese modifications of the shoulder held missiles of that time, which could have reached the required altitude. So I don’t think it can absolutely be said that a terrorist missile can be ruled out on that basis.

Hello? There were "stories" about Chinese modifications? Have any of these missiles been seen before of since? And even if you had a missile that might be able to hit something at 20,000 feet, why not position yourself to shoot at the plane when it is at 8000 feet?

The Navy had restricted flying near the place where TWA 800 went down. The Navy first denied they had assets in the area. Then after they did admit that there were assets in the area, they didn't answer many questions about what those assets were doing there. In fact, few such questions were asked.

Besides the Navy being in the area, doing something or other, we have a Coast Guard. Certainly a missile fired from the water close to our shore, should arouse their interest. So far as I know it did not.

Doesn't any of this bother you?

ML/NJ

149 posted on 09/21/2007 5:02:18 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Pagey

Ping.

If one considers the possibilities at the time, it sure appears terrorism or an attempt to cause an event to make it look like terrorism was the cause at the time.

Clinton’s responses, after he has been more read by the public, IMHO, reveal he strongly suspected terrorism, but was trying to manipulate events and information flow to further a political outcome.


150 posted on 09/21/2007 5:04:24 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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