Skip to comments.Year of racial unrest in La. [Jena, Louisiana] town
Posted on 09/20/2007 9:57:37 PM PDT by topher
After the decision, black students at Jena High gathered under the tree in protest.
Fights between blacks and whites broke out for days, and the principal ultimately called an assembly in which Dist. Atty. Walters, flanked by armed police, addressed the school.
"With a stroke of my pen, I can make your lives disappear," Walters said. In a court hearing where an attorney tried to have Walters removed from the beating case on grounds that he was biased, Walters, who is white, admitted making the statement. But he denied that he had been looking at black students when he said it, as some have said he had been.
Just before the incident that resulted in stiff charges for the Jena Six, white youngsters had attacked one of the six black boys, Robert Bailey, 17, striking him with beer bottles as he tried to enter a party. Only one of the attackers was charged -- with simple battery.
The next day, a white man who had been at the party brandished a shotgun during an altercation with Bailey and several other black boys.
He was not charged, but the boys, who wrestled the gun away from him, were charged with stealing it.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
I suggest reading the first part of the article.
This is currently a very explosive situation for Louisiana overall and the town of Jena.
I was interested today when I heard a RUMOR that a white student took a shotgun to school. The black students took away the shotgun and they were arrested for that.
The Los Angeles Times article has some of the truth of the incident, but not all of it.
Wow - six black kids beat a white kid and even after the white guy goes unconscious, they CONTINUE to beat him.
And there is NO talk of this being a hate crime. Instead, they run around complaining about whitey and the black “victims” like those aren’t stereotypes.
I am also perplexed. How does 6 black kids beating up a white kid translate into a hate crime against the 6 black kids? beam me up Scotty!
Amazing how much the LA Times twisted the story and left out important facts. That report was a propaganda piece.
So, how did Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton become the voice of character in the United States?
What the blacks are complaining about is the fact that no whites have been charged.
There is not enough information about the shotgun incident, for example, for me to know what happened there. Was the WHITE GUY defending himself and it was taken away (which is possible).
Or did the WHITE GUY threathen the blacks with the shotgun?
The RUMOR floating around South Louisiana is that a White student brought a SHOTGUN to school, and it was taken away by black students. I can't tell how much truth or if this false from the article -- it is just possible after reading the article. The article clearly says a WHITE MAN. But where did it occur. Was it an older student (say 20 or 21 years old) that was considered a man?
The other disturbing thing is the statement by a white District Attorney Walters that with a stroke of his pen he could make people disappear.
What makes this a significant issue with blacks and people out of state is that no white person has been charged. There could have been charges brought (possibly) against white students -- the three hangman nooses incident, the beer bottles thrown at the black student, possibly the shotgun.
Again, I am not taking sides as trying to provide the view of both sides.
If that is true, it is causing rumors to circulate around South Louisiana — that may make for an explosive situation...
The rumor you heard is probably false because it sounds like a combination of two separate incidents:
One incident occurred at a store where a white teen pulled his shotgun on a group of black teens. (Eyewitnesses supported the white teen’s story that it was in self-defense, though of course the black teens involved say otherwise.)
The other incident was a rumor that a student had brought a gun to the school; the school went into lockdown, and the authorities never found a gun.
Here’s a timeline from the Jena Times:
I’ve been watching the story on the news today, and I cannot believe the details that are being left out. If not for Free Republic and some internet searches, I wouldn’t know the details either. The media is twisting the story. I feel sorry for the people of Jena.
I found this post intersting.
Grain of salt of course, internet.
Bump for further exploration later.
In a nutshell:
Origins: At the end of a school assembly on 31 August 2006, a black student at Jena High School in Jena, Louisiana, jokingly asked the assistant principal of that institution if black students were permitted to sit in the shade of a tree in a square at the center of campus (a spot usually enjoyed by white students). The official’s response was that they could “sit anywhere you want.” The next morning, two nooses were found hanging from said tree.
Scott Windham, the high school’s principal, recommended that the three white teens responsible for festooning the tree with those nooses be expelled from Jena High School, but that recommendation was overruled by the school superintendent and board members, who instead opted to view the matter as a non-racially motivated “prank.” The three students responsible for placing the nooses were instead given three-day suspensions.
Supposedly as a consequence of how the matter was handled (that is, the nooses’ being judged a boyish prank rather than regarded as a serious threat), racial tensions flared at the school and in the surrounding community throughout the fall. (Investigating officials have since disclaimed a link between the placement of the nooses and subsequent violent incidents involving the school.) On 30 November 2006, a wing of the school was destroyed by a series of deliberately-set fires, one in the principal’s office, and a number in various classrooms on the second floor. (No arrests have been made in connection with the fire.) There were also fights in and near the school, including one in which a black student was attacked by a group armed with beer bottles at a party predominantly attended by whites. (Only one person in that assault was criminally charged, and he with just a misdemeanor.)
In another incident that took place on 2 December 2006 at the Gotta-Go Grocery, a convenience store, a white Jena graduate reportedly pulled a pump-action shotgun on three black high school students when they left the shop. The three teens managed to wrestle the gun away from the man (who was injured in the process and was treated at a hospital for his injuries); they were later arrested and charged with second-degree robbery, theft of a firearm, and conspiracy to commit second-degree robbery. Accounts differ as to what happened in that incident, the white victim asserting he was attacked and robbed by the three teens, and the black teens asserting they were guilty of nothing more than defending themselves against a man with a gun. According to The Jena Times, eyewitness accounts provided by those unrelated to any of the four involved parties supported the victim’s story.
The “Jena 6” attack took place on 4 December 2006 at the high school. During a fight that broke out in the lunchroom between a white student and a black student, the white student was hit from behind, knocked out, then set upon by other black students who proceeded to kick and stomp his “lifeless” body as he lay unconscious on the floor. The victim, Justin Barker, spent about three hours in an emergency room being treated for injuries to his head and face.
That assault resulted in five of the black teens involved being charged, as adults, with attempted second-degree murder and given bonds ranging from $70,000 to $138,000. A sixth teen was charged as a juvenile. Two of the Jena 6 defendants had been part of the threesome involved in the Gotta-Go Grocery incident, which is why their bonds were significantly higher: the bonds so assigned covered both sets of charges.
Mychal Bell, the only one of the Jena 6 to be tried so far, was convicted in June 2007 on a reduced charge of aggravated second-degree battery. He is scheduled to be sentenced on 20 September 2007, when he could possibly be given a term of up to 22 years in prison.
Prosecutors in his case revealed the teen had been convicted as a juvenile for attacking someone a year prior to the Jena 6 assault, then committed three more crimes while on probation for that one, which meant the Jena 6 verdict marked his fifth conviction for violent crimes. These prior acts were taken into account by the judge when the question arose of reducing Bell’s $90,000 bond.
The case against Bell was weighed by an all-white jury (reportedly because no black potential jurors showed up on the day of jury selection), and there are allegations that the accused’s original defense attorney did a poor job. A motion hearing is scheduled for 4 September 2007, at which time Bell’s new attorneys will argue that Bell’s adult conviction should be wiped out and the case sent to juvenile court, or that he should get a new trial because he was misdefended by his original attorney.
Update: On 4 September 2007 prosecutors announced that charges against two more of the Jena 6 defendants, Carwin Jones and Theo Shaw, would be reduced from attempted second-degree murder to aggravated second-degree battery. On 14 September 2007 an appeals court vacated the second-degree battery conviction of Mychal Bell, ruling that the charges should have been brought in juvenile court. (The district attorney has not yet decided whether to refile the charges against Bell in juvenile court.)
Donald Washington, U.S. attorney for the Western District of Louisiana, asserted that a review of the Jena investigations indicated there was no link between the hanging of the nooses and the beating of a student three months later: “A lot of things happened between the noose hanging and the fight occurring, and we have arrived at the conclusion that the fight itself had no connection.”
LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters, who oversaw the investigations into both incidents, echoed that sentiment: “When this case was brought to me and during our investigation and during the trial, there was no such linkage ever suggested. This compact story line has only been suggested after the fact.”
Washington noted that after the noose-hanging incident at the start of the school year in August, school routines went forward as usual; there was no apparent lingering anger.
“There were three months of high school football in which they all played football together and got along fine, in which there was a homecoming court, in which there was the drill team, in which there were parades.”
Asked if the incidents had been blown out of proportion, he replied, “To a degree, I believe so, yes.”
Last updated: 19 September 2007
Great, now every town with a population of under 5,000 will try to stage similar events in an attempt to boost the local economy.
>It is quite clear that beating an unconscious person while he is on the ground is a very serious act and should be prosecuted... And I am not trying to take sides.<
Then why are you even responding?
>But there are a number of disturbing incidents in this situation. What the blacks are complaining about is the fact that no whites have been charged.<
....with what? In this particular case, six black kids beat up a white kid severely. What should the white kid be charge with?
(Well, there was a noose hung...)
#1 - the kids that did it were punished.
#2 - that doesn’t justify beating someone half to death
(Well, there was an incident with a gun...)
Again, it’s a separate issue that doesn’t excuse beating someone half to death.
This assault was a HATE CRIME - but no one in the unbiased, non partisan press seems to think that is worth mentioning.
There were SIX black guys who attacked ONE white guy. The white guy went unconscious and they CONTINUED their assault anyway.
What would be said if the races were reversed in this situation? (Be honest.)
>There is not enough information about the shotgun incident, for example, for me to know what happened there. Was the WHITE GUY defending himself and it was taken away (which is possible).
Or did the WHITE GUY threathen the blacks with the shotgun?<
What did the black guys say to him? There were six of them btw. If a couple of nooses hanging from a tree are considered threatening, then what about six big guys in your face threatening you? (And probably using racial slurs?)
>The RUMOR floating around South Louisiana is that a White student brought a SHOTGUN to school, and it was taken away by black students. I can’t tell how much truth or if this false from the article — it is just possible after reading the article. The article clearly says a WHITE MAN. But where did it occur. Was it an older student (say 20 or 21 years old) that was considered a man?<
Again - this is a separate incident that doesn’t justify a vicious attack.
>The other disturbing thing is the statement by a white District Attorney Walters that with a stroke of his pen he could make people disappear.<
Another separate incident. If true, what the DA did was wrong. Again this doesn’t justify an attack.
>What makes this a significant issue with blacks and people out of state is that no white person has been charged.<
If we’re going to end the racism, let’s end it. “Whites always get away with it” is a racial stereotype (and I’m told wrong.) Blacks are always oppressed is another stereotype (and I’m told is wrong.) But because those are Politically Correct, we’ll let them go.
You also keep emphasizing that you have no idea which story is correct - but I notice you’re willing to believe the black guys over the white.
>There could have been charges brought (possibly) against white students — the three hangman nooses incident, the beer bottles thrown at the black student, possibly the shotgun.<
The noose kids were given in school suspension.
>Again, I am not taking sides as trying to provide the view of both sides.<
You’re not taking sides? You just made the case for the black kids. If you don’t want to take sides, then stay out of it. But if you want to debate - pick one.
Nooses hanging from a tree is definitely intimidation
It’s also the thing that captured everyone’s attention. If there were no nooses, this would have been just another case of teenagers acting like morons.
I don’t want to be obnoxious here, but I think this is another example of the white population finding any excuse to avoid conflict and using the nooses (none of which were used for anything but symbolism) is a way to avoid defending the beatdown of this kid.
Now what it is that Whites are avoiding, I just don’t know.
A rebellion? A boycott? Getting peeled off from the herd and being made an example of?
I just don’t get it.
6 kids beat a white kid unconscious. This is thuggish—nooses or no nooses. Even if the kid had a swastika tattooed on his forehead, it doesn’t excuse the violence. Even if he used the N-word all day long, you can’t attack people like that. Or, that’s my understanding of things.
Looks to me that all of it is grain of salt. From the LA Times, CNBC to blogs and "eye witnesses" you name it. The MSM in particular has been NO HELP in this whole thing.
Ur not cool enough to post without reading the article yet. ;)
However, the charges for the six were too high.
And you've given much more information than the readily available (television and newspaper) news coming here (you're mentioning of a shotgun and bottles didn't make the television news).
The spectacle in Jena can only play itself out
as the black man can beat whitey without consequence.
Blacks get another pass on brutality.
When six thugs pounding on someone who’s unconscious
is just plain cowardly and sadistic. There is no justification
for mob action. If it were one-vs.-one, different story.
Attempted murder seems justified to me. kicking someone repeatedly on the head ain’t shool yard wrestling!
I’ve had my fights and have seen others but never has
anyone been beaten in unconsciousness. they stop prize fights before someone is taken down this severly.
But since the black youts were offended they’re justified.
Interesting that they use "unrelated". Considering this bunch of unrest is about race, were the eyewitnesses all of European descent, or were there some of African (or other) descent?
Maybe, as with Scott Peterson, the case should be sent far away, in this case maybe to the North or West, just to reduce the chance that people (you may refer to them as racebaiters--that term can go both ways) will accuse the decision of being racist.
The Jena six's and the other African descendants' side was generally taken in this post. Already there are plenty of defenders here for the European descendants' side, and highly anticipate that number to grow. Including the many points being made maybe unfairly about them would be redundant.
The 'Jena six' obviously deserve some punishment. It's whether 22 years in adult prison is too much that should be at issue.
In contrast to you—who have obviously taken the side of the European descendants involved—maybe he’s trying to be as fair, balanced, and unbiased (in a good way) as he can be.
More than a week ago I saw a interview on tv with the main player among the 6 and his lawyer. The kid stated he wanted to get back to his life and work toward his goal of being a pro-basketball player. If that is his goal he may as well pick up his crack pipe and his prison number now and save all that time. Talk about a totally unlikely, unrealistic life goal.
But to answer your question of:
I want to know why six punks of any race can beat up another kid, also of any race, and people are seeking to get them set free.
Uh, because they are black and it is all whiteys fault.
Yeah, I’m confused too.
Are the protestors saying that blacks have the right to beat up white kids? As reperations for past slavery or something?
I watched the breathless coverage today and those thugs are being treated as heros, as Rosa Parks!
I am stupified that we are seeing such blind stupidity in the media...
I'm black and I don't think it 'whitey's' fault.
There's more to it than that, but thanks for your input.
Frankly, who gives a rip about the nooses?
It’s a consciencious choice to take offense at something. Sometimes it’s easier to make than others, and this would appear to be such a case. But if you can’t control yourself over seeing an image you don’t like, you deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
These thugs are no worse than the Muslim fools who burnt down Europe over some cartoons. It’s the exact same thing.
I can’t believe there are people on this site defending this around the noose argument.
“#2 - that doesnt justify beating someone half to death”
The boy was treated for three hours at the hospital and released. He attended a school function that same night. I’m not justifying the actions of the black students, just clarifying that the white student, although hurt, was ambulatory, was not admitted to the hospital and upon release did not immediately take to his bed.
If it’s true that six teenagers ganged up on one lone teenager to beat him up, one would think an attempted murder charge or a serious assault charge would be filed. In the end though we have two systems of justice in this country...one for the OJ’s & pro athletes and one for the Martha Stewart’s and the Libby’s.
saving for later
mark for reading later. This is dominating the news lately and I just don’t get the whole thing.
mark for reading later. This is dominating the news lately and I just dont get the whole thing.This is the way I see it. My views are closer to the black community's than the white community's so you know my bias up front.
Here we go again. The legal system cannot or will not impartially decide on another case involving different races because of fear or self-loathing. Granted, there are racists of both races in this mess, however, our legal system has to do its job or the vacuum will be filled by others. In case you didn’t realize the KKK is alive and well in the south and the thought of those narrow-minded cretins stepping in to do the job is frightening.
I would add that there are other racist groups alive and well throughout this land, not just the South. It's popular to bash us, but it just ain't the case that we're the only racists around. /Rant off.
As an aside, I abhor racism of any kind. It's rediculous. I am, however, a culturist and promote the Western ideal with zeal. At the same token, there are cultures that I cannot agree with and don't think should be allowed to take root here.
“In case you didnt realize the KKK is alive and well in the south..”
Really? What evidence do you have of this? Their complete and total absence in voice and body from this incident? I did see someone wearing white robes at the protest but he was black.
Interesting how nooses are considered intimidation but 10,000 angry outsiders descending on a small, quiet town demanding criminals be released is NOT intimidation?
I want out of this freakin’ circus.
If someone unloads a pistol aimed at your child and misses, causing the child no injuries at all, what crime should the shooter be charged with?
The reason I am bringing up what I did is that from the black perspective, some blacks may feel justified.
I am not defending them, just rying to bring up that side. There appears to be anger in South Louisiana over what happened as those the WHITE GUYS were not imprisoned but the BLACK GUYS were.
Reporting from the LA Times does not help the matter.
I remember some of the facts from the May, 2007 article in the Baltimore Sun.
It is just that this is a festering situation that some liberals and others will use to JUSTIFY criminal acts.
I am not siding with them so much as trying to show their mentality (as stupid as it may be).
Notice that the core issue (the black students actions against ) are not addressed - just the outrage that more whites were not charged.
Hello - Worry about your own wrongdoings before you start pointing out other people’s issues.
Here is the REAL time line from the Jena Times.
Yes it is a pure piece of fiction.
The problem with the propaganda is that the truth is glaringly left out. I’ve linked the true time line from the local paper both here and in another thread.
The fact is that the beating of Justin Barker by the Six Thugs had NOTHING to do with all of the other incidents. Justin had nothing to do with any of those other incidents either. These six kids have a multitude of convictions for violent acts going back since one of them was 10 years old.
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