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Giant hornet or Bee (vanity)
me ^ | 9/21/07 | me

Posted on 09/21/2007 8:40:05 PM PDT by abner

Alright, I am at a loss and am posting my first real vanity post.

Stupid I know so try to go easy. I am trying to identify a giant hornet or bee. This thing has been hanging out on our outside light for at least 2 evenings. Tonight I had my better half take photos.

In looking at forums, I haven't really been able to identify this other than the frightening Asian Giant Hornet. I really don't want this to be that as it would have a tendency to really freak me out.

Whatever this is is about 2 inches long and at least one of its kind is active in the evening.

For some really cool pics of the monster - see here: http://www.usflagballoon.com/2007season/hornetorbee.htm


TOPICS: US: Pennsylvania; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bee; hornet; whatisit
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Big Hornets or bees here in America... The humanity!
1 posted on 09/21/2007 8:40:07 PM PDT by abner
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To: abner

since 1999?


2 posted on 09/21/2007 8:41:23 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: abner

Are you anywheres near that radioactive UFO that crashed in Peru?


3 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:09 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: abner

It’s a queen


4 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:13 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: abner

Looks like a hornet to me. But I’m no expert.


5 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:15 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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To: abner

Radioactive yellow jacket...common since we invaded Iraq


6 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:18 PM PDT by woofie
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To: abner

I like bees.
But then I like cheese.


7 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:27 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: ken21
since 1999?

Uh huh... Anything else I have ever posted has been important to the world at large and humanity in general. Honest.. .

8 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:40 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

Hey, you are using one of those PC enviro light bulbs. Sorry I can’t help you — traitor.

(BTW this reminds me of the ancient thread where the woman had her foot on a snake while typing on FR...anyone have that link?)


9 posted on 09/21/2007 8:42:50 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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To: abner
If it’s fat and slow, probably a carpenter fee.

Whack it hard with insecticide. Or harder with a tennis racket.

10 posted on 09/21/2007 8:43:07 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: steve86
Are you anywheres near that radioactive UFO that crashed in Peru?

I don't think so... Is Peru near Philadelphia?

11 posted on 09/21/2007 8:43:40 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

Big ‘ol yellow jacket. I kill them all the time.


12 posted on 09/21/2007 8:44:49 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: abner
Abner--spray the darn thing and get rid of it before it bites someone. Then you can take it's dead little body to an expert to find out for sure what it is.

How ya doing, otherwise?

13 posted on 09/21/2007 8:44:54 PM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: nuconvert

You really think it is a queen? My other half saw another one about 2 weeks ago in a totally different place. I think that is why this one caught his attention.


14 posted on 09/21/2007 8:45:17 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

Give it a gun. See what it does.


15 posted on 09/21/2007 8:45:19 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: abner
Are you sure that the hornet's not actually green, with an asian driver?

Mark

16 posted on 09/21/2007 8:45:32 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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Oh, what the heck, let it sting you and if you drop dead the autopsy will provide the answer.


17 posted on 09/21/2007 8:45:35 PM PDT by jonsie
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To: abner
For some really cool pics of the monster - see here:
http://www.usflagballoon.com/2007season/hornetorbee.htm

18 posted on 09/21/2007 8:45:36 PM PDT by RonDog
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IBTZ.


19 posted on 09/21/2007 8:46:02 PM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: abner
Yup, it's a queen hornet. She won't hurt you if you leave her alone.


20 posted on 09/21/2007 8:46:09 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: BipolarBob

I’m thinking it is a hornet too. I would rather it was a bee though as the bee population in this country is in a bit of a crisis.


21 posted on 09/21/2007 8:46:31 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

22 posted on 09/21/2007 8:46:40 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: SIDENET

Just kidding.


23 posted on 09/21/2007 8:46:50 PM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: woofie
Radioactive yellow jacket...common since we invaded Iraq

The best kind then!

24 posted on 09/21/2007 8:47:13 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

Where is the photo?

Or did you want us to just guess what it might be?


25 posted on 09/21/2007 8:47:15 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: abner

Just a guess. Maybe it was the same one and she’s lost

:~ )


26 posted on 09/21/2007 8:47:19 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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To: abner
I think I know some of those bees.


27 posted on 09/21/2007 8:47:57 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: abner
I'm certainly not an entomologist, but my guess, based on the size and markings, would be a Giant European Hornet, Vespa crabro germana

Here's a link: http://bugguide.net/node/view/7230

Here's a pic for comparison:


28 posted on 09/21/2007 8:48:46 PM PDT by chrisser
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To: freedomlover

Cheese is the best... All kinds cept’ bleu and swiss. YUCK!

I’m not into bees though.


29 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:05 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

You should see the big fat carpenter bees I have living in the front porch. Those things have drilled some absolutely amazing tunnels. Every now and then one will accidentally clunk me on the head when I go out the front door. I don’t know if they can sting or not.


30 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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It’s a Cicada Killer.Awsome but almost harmless, unless your a cicada.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/in573

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/killerwasps.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5KCTyiLR4


31 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:30 PM PDT by BBell
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Yes, if its the giant asian hornet, a freak-out would be understandable. That is one baaaaaaad hornet.

The hornets can devastate a colony of honey bees: a single hornet can kill as many as 40 honey bees per minute, thanks to their large mandibles which can quickly strike and decapitate a bee. It takes only a few of these hornets a few hours to exterminate the population of a 30,000-member hive, leaving a trail of severed insect heads and limbs.

32 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:30 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Whack it hard with insecticide. Or harder with a tennis racket.

Though it would probably do terrible things to your house paint, my preferred anti-wasp weapon is Gunk Engine-Brite (get it at any auto parts store). It's an engine cleaner and degreaser. It doesn't kill the wasp right away, but it immediately dissolves the wasp's wings, so they can't get to you. It kills the wasp a bit slower than the insecticides. It's just that the insecticides I've seen don't immobilize the wasps as quickly as I'd like.

Mark

33 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:32 PM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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That is particularly nasty breed of hornet:

Killer hornets get a taste for humans

Hornets From Hell

34 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:53 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: abner
It's Satan.

Satan comes with a big scary yellow butt!

35 posted on 09/21/2007 8:49:55 PM PDT by humblegunner ()
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To: ElkGroveDan
(BTW this reminds me of the ancient thread where the woman had her foot on a snake while typing on FR...anyone have that link?)

I thought it was a spider...

36 posted on 09/21/2007 8:50:12 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

I think she’s looking around for a place to set up shop


37 posted on 09/21/2007 8:51:04 PM PDT by nuconvert ("Terrorism is not the enemy. It is a means to the ends of militant Islamism." MZJ)
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It looks like a really big Hornet to me. Has there been any steroids stolen in the neighborhood?

That is a very nice lite fixture but I don’t think you should put a compact florescence bulb in a enclosed housing. I have read they can overheat...

38 posted on 09/21/2007 8:51:39 PM PDT by tubebender (My first great grandson is a Miniature Schnauzer...)
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To: abner
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
39 posted on 09/21/2007 8:51:39 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; abner

I’ve heard cheap hairspray works well. It dries on their wings like it dries on hair.


40 posted on 09/21/2007 8:51:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Not slow at all.. Very fast. My other half was going really fast taking the pics. Light on, light off... I was inside doing the light on/off thing. I know carpenter bees. This isn’t a carpenter bee.


41 posted on 09/21/2007 8:52:04 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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It's a cicada killer
42 posted on 09/21/2007 8:52:09 PM PDT by L_Von_Mises
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To: basil

We are good. Going to ABQ in a few weeks with 3 balloons now! And you?


43 posted on 09/21/2007 8:53:16 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

We could lose on that one. It is too fast!


44 posted on 09/21/2007 8:54:02 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: MarkL

Hmmm...


45 posted on 09/21/2007 8:54:38 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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To: abner

Here’s the snake thread:

Vanity Help identify this snake found in my bedroom! Please!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/735901/posts


46 posted on 09/21/2007 8:55:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Take the wheel, Fred.)
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Oh, what the heck, let it sting you and if you drop dead the autopsy will provide the answer.

Thanks! I appreciate the great advice!

47 posted on 09/21/2007 8:55:28 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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IBTZ.

Ahh... my first. Thanks.

48 posted on 09/21/2007 8:56:08 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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I believe it's a Cicada Killer

From A guide to Familiar American Insects: "This large solitary wasp digs a borrow a foot or so deep. In side passages the female stores adult cicadas which she has paralyzed by stinging. The heavy cidadas are dragged up a tree by the killer till she can get enough altitude to fly back to her burrow. When the egg hatches, the larva feeds on the helpless cidada. In a week it is full grown and pupates in a loose cocoon. It emerges the following summer, completing it life cycle."

They are generally not aggressive towards humans. Around my house we have a healthy tolerance for each other. I consider them a good sign that nature continues to survive and that this insect is vital to the ecology, as they always have been.

49 posted on 09/21/2007 8:56:20 PM PDT by Rabble (The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others !!)
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To: RonDog
For some really cool pics of the monster - see here:

They are pretty cool.. Thanks Ron. How are you?

50 posted on 09/21/2007 8:57:09 PM PDT by abner (I have no tagline, therefore no identity.)
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