Skip to comments.Inflicting white neuroses on nonwhite women
Posted on 09/21/2007 9:49:40 PM PDT by jwalburg
Americans are obsessed with fat because fatness has become a symbol for poverty, downward mobility, nonwhiteness and socially marginal status in general. Fear and hatred of fat has very little to do with the health risks associated with being "overweight" and "obese" (which are wholly imaginary and highly exaggerated
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I associate fatness with a sedentary lifestyle and too much emphasis on food.
I don’t think of it as black/white, rich/poor - just a choice of lifestyle.
Guess I’m odd.
This article is stupid to the point of being insulting.
“I associate fatness with a sedentary lifestyle and too much emphasis on food.
I dont think of it as black/white, rich/poor - just a choice of lifestyle.
Guess Im odd.”
No, fatness is a symbol of low or no self-esteem, no motivation, and no self-control. There's a fairly simple solution: eat less and exercise more. And no one can convince me that a bag of apples (or whatever fruit is in season) costs more than a box of sugary and fat-laden candy bars (and I loooooove chocolate).
BTW - I’ve gone to professional meetings where wealthy white male engineers had to sit with their legs spread so their bellies could hang between them. Too much time behind a desk. Too many donuts at the meetings. It had nothing to do with poverty or race.
That’s the Mike Huckabee diet, I understand. Eat an apple every day.
I want to scream.
IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH CHEAP FOOD, YOU ARE BY DEFINITION NOT POOR.
I work at a Fortune 500 company. I realized the other day that all the more elite women were in really good shape while the lower level women in general are not in such great shape.
Fact of life, image counts.
Aren’t we supposed to move beyond race at some point? What does race have to do with being overweight?
The fundamental strategy of the war on fat is to universalize the attitudes of middle- and upper-class white American women toward weight, food, dieting and exercise. Such women are taught from a very early age to hate their bodies.
That must be it. If you want to diet and keep healthy, it's got to be that you hate your body.
The real travesty is that they actually pay people to think and write like this?
So “Fat” is now considered a race? Huh? Or were the authors saying it’s OK for minority women to be fat? I’m confused.
The author can kiss my skinny Latina butt.
Better than inflicting nonwhite neurosis on white chicks. I'm getting real tired of hearing pale yuppie chicks calling each other "sistah" and yelling "You go, girl!"
It's just plain goofy, is what it is.
It is a mistake to think that obesity is a problem only in certain social or racial groups. It is rampant in all races, in both genders, and across all ages. It would be (sic) mistake as well to believe that race and social class do not matter. The prevalence of significant obesity (body mass index over 30) in the U.S. population is 29% for Caucasians, 34% for Hispanics and 40% for African Americans. Fully 78% of African American females are overweight or obese.
78 percent is a HUGH figure. How can this be?
i think it is more of a class issue
no doubt poorer folks are fatter
which seems like a paradox eh?
I’ve seen many fat, white professional women as well.
They are usually the worst dit shisturbers in the crew.
The article is in the LA Times. If your IQ is greater than your shoe size, of course it's going to be insulting.
No. That’s called being young. Fatness was a sign of fertility and affluence less than 100 years ago. You are an ignorant baby by measure of human preferences over the ages. Only very recently has fatness become the pariah it is today. The California aberration has spread to mainstream America and from there into the world. I am a skinny, hairy, pasty, balding, white male by the way.
actually race does play into weight a bit
diabetes, metabolism etc.
some tribes, races, ethnicities suffer more of certain gentic predipositions to illnesses
and have higher testosterone
birth canal diameters
penis size...no I’m not kidding
vaginal canal length...more primitive...longer to protect baby
reflex muscle synapse
eye placement and disorders
I could go on and on
when I was young, black women were heavier older....now lower class white women are too
as are Amerindian latino immigrants....in a very high percentage
some folks are less prone to weight gain....most Asians notably
you know...a Big Big Gulp can have 2000 calories minimum in one big cup
throw back 2-3 of those a day and 3 bags of Big Macs and you’re at 10,000 calories and with a sedentary couch meets bong pipe lifestyle you will have a belly apron in no time
the only real help is meth...lol..but you’ll need a good dentist
it’s not funny but man folks are so dang fat today....whoa...I bet your average 18 year old girl is 20 pounds heavier and one cup size larger than in my day
Sounds like another excuse to blame someone else for your weight problems...
“I am a skinny, hairy, pasty, balding, white male by the way.”
5’ 6” and 165 lbs. My name is Fat @ss Barbie! LOL!
Is that a racist statement?
I don’t think it has as much to do with race as it does with culture.
White, American males seem to be entranced by the female body as pre-pubescent scrawny with large (enhanced) breasts. Not all but most. Witness most of the actresses, models and most Googled women.
Whereas men in other cultures love mature women, who have a bit of sag and extra flesh. Reubenesque, if you will. In many cultures and historically, a ‘fleshed out’ woman was a sign that the man was well off. He could afford to feed his family more than just enough to sustain life. He was rich if he had a plump wife. Have you ever seen the musical ‘Fiddler On The Roof’? In the song ‘If I Were A Rich Man’ there is a line that goes ‘I’d have my wife, my Golde, looking like a rich man’s wife, with a proper double chin’...
Most black men I know..and I know a lot, like their women to have a lot of curves. Black people, along with other ethinicities, have never regarded large women as gross or lazy, the things many white Americans do. Instead, they look at it as a ‘real woman’. Listen to the song ‘Baby Got Back’. He’s really putting white men down for not liking that booty.
“The fundamental strategy of the war on fat is to universalize the attitudes of middle- and upper-class white American women toward weight, food, dieting and exercise. Such women are taught from a very early age to hate their bodies.”
“That must be it. If you want to diet and keep healthy, it’s got to be that you hate your body.”
I think of it less as hating one’s body and more of liking denial or even loving pain. Nothing is so instructive to the mind and body as running repetition 1/2 miles at race pace at age 53 years with a former heart condition failure and recent blood clot. But I’d rather be dead than a couch ‘tato. Interesting that more women than men run races these days.
I guess tomorrow I will read another asinine theory of how whites destroy the lives of non-whites.
Also, these perceived “messages” are delivered by none other than liberal advertising and media sources.
You know ... I’m so confused by now I don’t quite know! :-)
Not really. Carbs are cheaper to buy and allow the body to readily store all the excess energy. Eating healthy means more proteins (which costs money).
That is a great pic but, IMHO, not *nearly* as nice as the one on your page. :)
From one hippie to another pardner I can tell you this.
I live in one of the nation’s most comfortable zip codes....there are very few fat women.
I travel through poor areas and do some business near them and black or white, the women are fatter and there are at least 10 fold more proportionately.
I read somewhere where 70% of black women are obsese...not just caterpillar butt chunky but obese
now....it ain’t just race, it’s class ....no two way about it
well off soccer milfs ain’t gonna get fat if they can help it
and I stand by accusing Big Gulp as one culprit
whoops ...I misread your post.
slap me please
I’ll second that with all due respect!
Hey, now that's not fair! How come the libs get to have all the fun? ;-)
No I didn’t read the article or the comments. Having said that what struck me most was how fat women used to be revered from Rubenesque to the South Pacific, where the fatter the better. It was indicative of wealth.
Now, being fat isn’t great, but being fat certainly didn’t start with American culture.
Fatness is a symbol of non-whiteness and poverty?
First there’s plenty of fat white people. Second, you’re not as poor as you think if you can afford to buy enough food to make yourself obese. You’re just wasting your income on excess food instead of wealth generation.
Diet is pretty easy. Plenty of clean water, raw veggies, raw fruits, a few almonds, lean cuts of meat, salmon, tuna and sardines. Drop the grains. Add to this sufficient sleep and exercise. There. It did not cost you a penny, and you can now eat like you are rich.
Anymore that’s pretty much what you get when you read papers like Pravda on the Pacific.
I can remember reading the paper when I was a kid. They didn’t treat adults like simpletons back then.
“No, fatness is a symbol of low or no self-esteem, no motivation, and no self-control.”
Good god, the more I read FR on these topics the more I wonder what happened to the idea that conservatives were _less_ likely to adopt psychobabble bullsh*t.
“...the women are fatter and there are at least 10 fold more...”
No Way! You actually counted their folds? How’d you get away with that?
Excuse me? How can "overweight" and "obese" be "wholly imaginary and highly exaggerated, respectively" ?
My sampling of demographics around Atlanta would seem to support this. In our office, which ranges from execs to entry level, I don’t need one hand to count the in shape black women out of a population of about 120 total people. Seriously, it is 4. Number of black women total is about 30.