Rudy Giuliani gets the 2nd Amendment completely wrong in NRA speech [saved by a phone call]

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[ellery]

Right before Giuliani took his "impromptu" call during the NRA speech, he was discussing the second amendment. However, when discussing the second amendment's language, he mistakenly began to paraphrase the fourth amendment instead! Then he answered the phone and changed the subject. Here's the transcript, followed by the video:

"After all the second amendment is a freedom every bit as important as the other freedoms in the first ten amendments. Just think of the language of it -- 'the people shall be secure' --let's see, this is my wife calling..."

(talks to and about his wife)

(then he resumes with a subject change) "...but the parking decision offers an excellent example..."

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/09/giuliani_answers_cell_phone_du.html

Giuliani forgetting the second amendment in his big NRA speech is a giant SNAFU. In the media attention over the call itself, let's see if this part of the story gets any mention.

[ellery]

Related thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1900260/posts?page=105#105

[ellery]

Ping — I thought this part of the story was worth calling out...if you think it’s better discussed on your existing thread, please let me know and I’ll ask the admin mod to delete this one ASAP.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Bare-faced liars often make mistakes : )

[perfect_rovian_storm]

Ellery, you’re a brilliant guy and you’ve got my vote for this being better discussed here. :)

You’rea Buckhead in the making and I can only hope to say that I knew you way back when...lol :)

[the_Watchman]

I haven’t seen the video. Is it possible that the “call” was a head’s up from a staffer that he had just “stepped in it”?

[governmentstillsucks]

Right before Giuliani took his "impromptu" call during the NRA speech, he was discussing the second amendment. However, when discussing the second amendment's language, he mistakenly began to paraphrase the fourth amendment instead!

Perhaps he was invoking an emanation from a penumbra of a shadow. This after the Clinton camp declared Rudy's personal life "fair game."

I still see an older, bald version of John Kerry, both in speech and appearance.

[Califreak]

He’s got to be some kind of whipped to take a cellphone call from his wife in the middle of a speech while he’s running for POTUS.

[governmentstillsucks]

Bare-faced liars often make mistakes : )

And bare-headed ones as well. See my post about Giuliani as an aged John Kerry.

[ellery]

Shucks. I’m just addicted to FR and this campaign stuff. :)

[pissant]

You got that right. He’s been getting it wrong since day one.

“Rudy was so blatantly anti-constitutional regarding the 2nd Amendment, in 2000 he sued 26 gun manufactures to essentially put them out of business, saying that manufacturers “overproduced guns, way beyond what is necessary for hunting and law enforcement”.”

No thanks

[governmentstillsucks]

He’s got to be some kind of whipped to take a cellphone call from his wife in the middle of a speech while he’s running for POTUS.

Whipped by whom? His campaign strategist or his wife?

[ellery]

That’s exactly what the brilliant calcowgirl speculated on the other thread.

[DemEater]

He also pulled the same phone call from his wife stunt in June in front of people gathered for a rally.

[calcowgirl]

No, no! This is perfect. HERE is MUCH better!

I’ll link this thread to the end of mine (unless you already have).

[governmentstillsucks]

He also pulled the same phone call from his wife stunt in June in front of people gathered for a rally.

Because he's such a family-oriented guy, you know. No need to delve into past marital relations. Show's over, nothing to see here!

Are all presidential candidates this arrogant and condescending?

[calcowgirl]

Repeat from other thread:

So he confused the language and was going to go quote the 4th Amendment until an AIDE called him--not his wife!

BOTH SIDES OF THE ACTUAL PHONE CALL:

RUDY: Hello dear...

AIDE: You flippin' IDIOT! You just said “the people shall be secure...” That's the 4th Amendment! They want to hear about GUNS! Remember? The SECOND Amendment.

RUDY: I'm talking to the members of the NRA right now.

AIDE: Yeah... the wife thing--Good cover. Now, you need to pick the conversation back up and put it on topic. Cut to the part about the Parker Decision.

RUDY: Would you like to say hello? (He laughs, apparently at something she says.) I love you and I'll give you a call as soon as I'm finished, OK?

AIDE: You don't remember the Parker decision? Damn it! Start on Page 3. Just read the speech and quit ad libbing this thing! You are screwing up, big time!

RUDY: OK, have a safe trip, bye-bye. Talk to you later dear, I love you.

[ellery]

Great — I didn’t want to presume by linking over here until I checked with you.

[governmentstillsucks]

So how is it that you’ve got Giuliani’s scripts on hand? ;)

[ellery]

I saw that — I wonder if there’s any way to collect the full clips from each of the speeches where he’s pulled this trick? I’d be interested in seeing exactly what he says immediately prior to the other calls.

I had thought this was just a way to gloss over his past infidelities by showing how lovey-dovey he is with his wife...but it’s starting to look like something even slimier.

[CJ Wolf]

lol!

[mazza]

He is a lying creep, and since when did the 2nd Ammendment pertain to sporting and law enforcement. What a complete fool this man is.

[calcowgirl]

No problem! It was an awesome catch.
I’d like to see a video of the full speech.

[calcowgirl]

Here is video of him doing the same thing in Florida.
(The wife on the phone )

But it appears to be right at the introduction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6NB6UW6zg4

[governmentstillsucks]

He is a lying creep, and since when did the 2nd Ammendment pertain to sporting and law enforcement. What a complete fool this man is.

Straddling a picket fence is probably painful for the man who some New York Freepers refer to as "the Rutard."

Ah need's mah hah-pard roffle so's the deers cain't skeeter off.

[calcowgirl]

So how is it that you’ve got Giuliani’s scripts on hand? ;)

I'm psychic. ;-)

[governmentstillsucks]

Here is video of him doing the same thing in Florida.

Note all of the idiots cheering when he says, "It's my wife on the phone."

[governmentstillsucks]

I'm psychic. ;-)

In light of that, I hear there's an opening in the Department of Homeland Security.

Are your gastrointestinal sensations working properly? Do you use the latest version of Rider-Waite tarot cards?

[calcowgirl]

Well, I think it was an event of campaign supporters—they’d cheer at most anything (even Hillary! —just kidding!)

I just watched today’s video again. I think the theory of that not being his wife is a good one. His facial expressions are priceless. I truly believe it was an aide telling him he screwed up. His jokes were simply stall tactics to try to figure out how to recover.

[ansel12]

“”He also pulled the same phone call from his wife stunt in June in front of people gathered for a rally.””

---

Here are both videos together

Here is 156 seconds of both times he staged the phone call during a speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NljO7w8fXKc&mode=user&search=

[calcowgirl]

I cannot divulge those secrets!
Sheesh! Next, you’ll wanna see my secret decoder ring!

[governmentstillsucks]

Well, I think it was an event of campaign supporters—they’d cheer at most anything (even Hillary! —just kidding!)

Which goes to show that many campaign supporters are morons who respond to flashing "applause" signs. Rudy, in particular, couldn't tell a joke without a laugh track.

I just watched today’s video again. I think the theory of that not being his wife is a good one. His facial expressions are priceless. I truly believe it was an aide telling him he screwed up. His jokes were simply stall tactics to try to figure out how to recover.

The wife angle was doubly successful. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the Clinton camp is already prepared to go after Giuliani on his personal life, so this seems to be a little bit of preemptive strategy. That, and Rudy has no idea what the Second Amendment is about.

[governmentstillsucks]

Sheesh! Next, you’ll wanna see my secret decoder ring!

It's a Little Orphan Annie decoder ring, isn't it? Don't worry--I'm drinking plenty of Ovaltine.

[stephenjohnbanker]

: )

[stockstrader]

Wow, that video needs to be posted everywhere,,,,and often. What a pathetic attempt at 'diversion' combined with a lame attempt to portray himself as a loving husband.

Rudy gets more disgusting by the day. If someone in the audience took a calls like that during a formal speech--distracting from the speaker and topic at hand....they would be kicked out.

Rudy needs to take a hike.

[calcowgirl]

Rudy, in particular, couldn't tell a joke without a laugh track.

He can't tell a joke with a laugh track, either! ;-)

That, and Rudy has no idea what the Second Amendment is about.

I'm still shakin' my head. This was a MAJOR gaffe!

[calcowgirl]

LOL.

[governmentstillsucks]

He can't tell a joke with a laugh track, either! ;-)

Announcer: The Rudy Giuliani campaign was filmed before a live studio audience.

[ellery]

I sent this off to Jim Geraghty at NRO, plus redstate and Captain’s Quarters. Do you think there’s anyone else who might be interested in covering this (latest) Giuliani fraud? I think Fox News is part of his campaign team, so I didn’t bother with them...

[Republic_of_Secession.]

Politicians seem to have a bad habit of forgetting the words of important Amendments of the the Constitution.

[beaversmom]

Well his wife is a bonehead if she calls during his speeches and why doesn’t he turn his cellphone off?

[ellery]

Announcer: The Rudy Giuliani campaign was filmed before a live studio audience.

Bwahahaha.

[ellery]

Politicians seem to have a bad habit of forgetting the words of important Amendments of the the Constitution.

What's funny (or not, really) is that Giuliani has as much contempt for the fourth amendment as he does for the second. Why not mix them up -- he ignores both of them equally. Six of one...half-dozen of the other...

[calcowgirl]

NRO was the first thing I thought of.

The Romney or Thompson campaign? ;-)

[calcowgirl]

With all the lawsuits he has been involved in (on the wrong side of both issues), I’m really surprised that he mixed them up.
I wonder what kind of prosecutor he really was.

[Ol' Sparky]

Are all presidential candidates this arrogant and condescending?

Well, yes...But, some are more arrogant and condescending than others. Giuliani believes he is one of the four or five most famous people in the entire nation.

[governmentstillsucks]

Well, yes...But, some are more arrogant and condescending than others. Giuliani believes he is one of the four or five most famous people in the entire nation.

God being the fifth or sixth, of course.

[roses of sharon]

From NR today, looks like Hunter's report will be later.

The Quick Read on How The NRA Crowd Liked The Candidates

Basing my grades entirely on crowd reactions at today’s NRA “Celebration of American Values,” I’d grade McCain B+, Thompson A, Rudy B+, Huckabee A+. I will give Romney and Richardson C+s for their video presentations - they’re well done for what they are, but no video can command an audience’s attention the way a candidate in the flesh can. Duncan Hunter is scheduled to appear by video later today. Newt Gingrich is also expected to appear, in person, but unless he gets his $30 million by November, he’s not in.

09/21 03:16 PM

[philman_36]

And this is who, according to the media, is leading in the polls. What a joke!

[good1]

Note all of the idiots cheering when he says, "It's my wife on the phone."

At least on the Geico ad the Caveman says, ". . . I'll put it on 'speaker.'"

The next time this happens, everyone ought to scream out, "Put her on speaker."

[Squantos]

Rudy the RINO-RAT is one major egg sucking dog. .....just one more seditious left wing conservative fooling the sheeple for votes.

GOP better dump this POS now or lose their real conservative base when it counts.