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Rudy's Coup
Townhall.com ^ | September 22, 2007 | Robert D. Novak

Posted on 09/22/2007 4:12:40 AM PDT by Kaslin

WASHINGTON -- Rudy Giuliani scored a hit with conservative activists by getting ahead of his Republican presidential competitors in blasting Sen. Hillary Clinton for not denouncing MoveOn.org's attack on Gen. David Petraeus.

Giuliani caught the spirit of Republican rage over the left-wing MoveOn.org's full-page ad in The New York Times. On the day Petraeus presented his report on Iraq, the ad demeaned him as "General Betray Us." Giuliani asked: "Who should America listen to -- a decorated soldier's commitment to defending America, or Hillary Clinton's commitment to defending MoveOn.org?

Washington-based conservatives this week voiced approval that Giuliani was hitting Clinton instead of other Republican presidential hopefuls.

DOLLARS FOR FRED

Republican campaign donors who have been bombarded for two years with appeals for funds from Republican presidential candidates on Thursday received their first direct mail plea from Fred Thompson, who asked for a contribution ranging from $35 to $2,300.

Thompson's personalized letter asserts that "as long as our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have hope and optimism, we should too" but does not take a position on President Bush's war policy. Rejecting Bush's stand on immigration, Thompson says: "We cannot effectively solve our problem with legal immigration until our borders are secured." The letter quotes Ronald Reagan but does not mention George W. Bush.

A footnote: Thompson's bid for the evangelical right suffered a setback Wednesday when social conservative leader James Dobson said he could not support Thompson, contending he has "no passion, no zeal." Thompson's agents encountered a cool reception at a gathering of conservatives this week who were high on Rudy Giuliani.

GOP DISSENTER

Rep. Ray LaHood, in his seventh and last term as a Republican House member, is working with his fellow Illinoisan, House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel, to seek Republican votes to override an expected veto by President Bush of an expanded State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).

While LaHood was chief of staff for then House Minority Leader Bob Michel before replacing him from his Peoria district in the 1994 election, he was a rare GOP holdout that year who did not sign the Contract with America.

LaHood has told colleagues he would be willing to lead a GOP House delegation to the White House after the SCHIP bill passes next week to urge the president not to veto it. There is no sign Bush would be open to such a visit.

DEMOCRAT FOR HALEY

A prominent Democrat attended the Washington fundraising reception in the downtown Sofitel hotel last week for Mississippi Republican Gov. Haley Barbour's re-election campaign: super-lobbyist Tommy Boggs.

Barbour, a former chairman of the Republican National Committee and White House political aide, is a national figure in the GOP. Boggs, both of whose parents were Democratic House members from Louisiana, is a major contributor and fundraiser for his party.

Barbour and Boggs were fellow capital lobbyists before Barbour returned to Mississippi. They were founding partners in the Caucus Room, a Washington steakhouse favored by political insiders.

DOWNGRADING DETROIT

The Health and Human Services (HHS) Department raised the ire of Detroit by advising its employees by e-mail last month in a "HHS Energy News Report" to buy cost-efficient motor vehicles. It recommended 12 models -- not one made by a U.S. auto manufacturer.

In a bipartisan letter to HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt, all 15 of Michigan's House members protested. "You may be interested to know that U.S. auto manufacturers sell a wide range of fuel efficient, clean fuel cars, SUVs and trucks," they told Leavitt. "Consumers can choose from a wide variety of models made by American auto companies that get over 30 miles per gallon."

The memo, calling for "a smart choice when selecting a vehicle to drive," urged purchases of smaller sedans instead of sport utility vehicles (SUVs), which are the top product of American companies.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; novak; patraeus; rudy
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1 posted on 09/22/2007 4:12:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Rudy Giuliani scored a hit with conservative activists

He did?

I think Bob Novak's been hit with something...

2 posted on 09/22/2007 4:19:30 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist living in Boston...)
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To: Kaslin
conservatives this week who were high on Rudy Giuliani

met in a phonebooth.

3 posted on 09/22/2007 4:21:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist living in Boston...)
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To: Kaslin

novak’s hitting the bong!

LLS


4 posted on 09/22/2007 4:38:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Darkwolf377
NOVAK is a Roooddddeeeee Fan, but he must be "hit" with something.

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

5 posted on 09/22/2007 4:43:00 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: Kaslin
Here's another look at the speech.

I keep going back and forth about Rudy, but he may be the only candidate with enough of the NY Attitude to counter the Hillary.

6 posted on 09/22/2007 4:43:48 AM PDT by JoanVarga
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To: JoanVarga

Right now I have no plan to vote for Rudy, but if he is the nominee I will vote for him. I certainly will not sit home and let the left take the White House over


7 posted on 09/22/2007 4:47:34 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge has worked and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: Kaslin

8 posted on 09/22/2007 4:51:54 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: W04Man; Darkwolf377; LibLieSlayer

The author is refering to the ad he put in the New York Slimes after the digusting Moveon.org ad


9 posted on 09/22/2007 4:52:31 AM PDT by Kaslin (The Surge has worked and the li(e)berals know it)
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To: Kaslin
The author is refering to the ad he put in the New York Slimes after the digusting Moveon.org ad

I'm aware of that. And...?

10 posted on 09/22/2007 4:53:05 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist living in Boston)
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To: Kaslin

forget rudy he’s inconsequential - FR handwringers should note #2 and look at the proportiuonality of the FR vote (against non members) and ask themselves if Fred blows it....will you all plug your noses and vote for him after towing the party line in the last election and not throwing away yout vote in protest to the way weve been ignored by the party

(9/9) Who do you support for president?

Fred Thompson
39.9%

Ron Paul
15.9%

Duncan Hunter
14.7%

Mitt Romney
9.4%

Rudy Giuliani
7.4%

Other/undecided
5.4%

Tom Tancredo
3.1%

Mike Huckabee
2.7%

John McCain
0.9%

Sam Brownback
0.7%


11 posted on 09/22/2007 5:10:39 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (prov 30:33)
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To: Revelation 911

Mr. Paul will not EVER be the Republican candidate. It will not happen. Conservative voters, nationally, will have nothing to do with him— I don’t care how high he is in this FR poll.


12 posted on 09/22/2007 5:50:31 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Kill the Terrorists. Secure the Borders. Give Me Back My Freedom. FRed Thompson can do it.)
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To: Clara Lou

Ron has a bit of a cult following going on.
Interesting, but my cat has a more realistic chance of breaking into double digits. And that is what it is.


13 posted on 09/22/2007 5:59:14 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Kaslin
Novak is an inside the beltway guy

Rooty is an inside the beltway guy

No surprise Novak thinks he knows what conservatives are thinking

Everything Novak thinks is filtered though the muck covered glasses pressitutes wear in DC.

14 posted on 09/22/2007 6:05:57 AM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: Revelation 911
orget rudy he’s inconsequential - FR handwringers should note #2 and look at the proportiuonality of the FR vote (against non members) and ask themselves if Fred blows it....will you all plug your noses and vote for him after towing the party line in the last election and not throwing away yout vote in protest to the way weve been ignored by the party

FR is NOT reflective of the Republican electorate. We represent a very narrow sub-section.

15 posted on 09/22/2007 6:06:51 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Revelation 911
You really think a FR poll is a true reflection of the American population opinion ?

Bro' put the Ron Paul bong down

16 posted on 09/22/2007 6:08:26 AM PDT by Popman (Nothing + Time + Chance = The Universe ---------------------Bridge in Brooklyn for sale - Cheap)
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To: Kaslin

Guiliani also scored a PR COUP with his planned cellphone NRA interuption.

That is all they covered. NOT the other candidates.

Guiliani disses the NRA and gets the headline.

also the documentary channel is showing SIX HOURS of free guilianiland documentary over and over.


17 posted on 09/22/2007 6:10:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Revelation 911

Ronpaul is a kook who is a sacrificial annode for useful idiots.

Useful Idiots who historically are weak in mind to be subject to diversion and mental tricks of the enemy.


18 posted on 09/22/2007 6:14:47 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

19 posted on 09/22/2007 6:18:20 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Keyes/Paul '08 - When you can't get crazy enough.)
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To: Kaslin

Considering Duncan Hunter held up the ad and smashed MoveOn.org and the libs in his opening statement to the hearing that very morning, it’s not exactly Rudy leading the pack.


20 posted on 09/22/2007 6:23:27 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Pistolshot

LOL!


21 posted on 09/22/2007 6:29:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pistolshot

PS

I KNOW HIM, He is a guy with a the ronpaul sign on a street corner.


22 posted on 09/22/2007 6:33:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Clara Lou
This poll has become a joke as it is being "FReeped" to pieces by outsiders. Look at this and compare the Ron Paul votes between Member Opinion and Non-Member Opinion.

212 vs 1,346? A total joke!

23 posted on 09/22/2007 6:39:59 AM PDT by upchuck (Psychiatrists have labeled George Bush's South-of-the-Border obsession as mexicosis. ~ firehat)
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To: Kaslin
Thompson's agents encountered a cool reception at a gathering of conservatives this week who were high on Rudy Giuliani.

Where was this? Novak is a moron for not telling us. But maybe he can't 'cause it's a stretched truth? Or maybe not true at all?

24 posted on 09/22/2007 6:43:22 AM PDT by upchuck (Psychiatrists have labeled George Bush's South-of-the-Border obsession as mexicosis. ~ firehat)
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To: Popman

Rudy is a fraud.


25 posted on 09/22/2007 6:44:12 AM PDT by Rush4U
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To: Kaslin
Right now I have no plan to vote for Rudy, but if he is the nominee I will vote for him. I certainly will not sit home and let the left take the White House over...

Julie-Annie is a leftist...

26 posted on 09/22/2007 6:51:31 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: upchuck

Novak is part of a sleeper cell for the leftist New York media establishment...


27 posted on 09/22/2007 6:54:05 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Kaslin
Rudy Giuliani scored a hit with conservative activists by getting ahead of his Republican presidential competitors in blasting Sen. Hillary Clinton for not denouncing MoveOn.org's attack on Gen. David Petraeus.

This would move him to lead my VP list. The VP candidates job is to bite into the opposition with pit bull precision. Though, my favorites would be Zell Miller, Tommy Franks, Duncan Hunter or JC Watts.

28 posted on 09/22/2007 7:00:05 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: Kaslin

Giuliani caught the spirit of Republican rage over the left-wing MoveOn.org’s full-page ad in The New York Times.


Novak nails it.

Rudy dominated the news cycle, and justifiably so.


29 posted on 09/22/2007 7:07:28 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: upchuck

Good catch. Novak is probably still unhappy because his buddies didn’t get hired by Fred.

I do agree that Rudy’s response to the Ad was well done, though. Republicans have to be as creative as possible to counter the Dems in the media.


30 posted on 09/22/2007 7:44:38 AM PDT by phothus
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To: Kaslin
>>>>>Rudy Giuliani scored a hit with conservative activists ...

A single only gets you to first base. And I doubt conservative activists were praising Rooty. More like inside the beltway liberal RudyBoosters.

31 posted on 09/22/2007 8:37:35 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Kaslin; W04Man; Darkwolf377; LibLieSlayer
The author is refering to the ad he put in the New York Slimes after the digusting Moveon.org ad

Oh, you mean how Rooty Toot played right the New York Slimes' trap and got Hitlery and Hsu off the front page?

The idiot HELPED the 'Rats.

32 posted on 09/22/2007 8:47:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, I had no idea LaHood was a socialist scumbag.
Then I read that he was Bob Michel’s toady. That probably explains it.


33 posted on 09/22/2007 8:54:08 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: AmericanMade1776

Brilliant cartoon by Ramirez. I assume the fourth kid over from Soros is Dodd, then Richardson. I guess the kid picking his nose is supposed to be Kucinich (since the remaining candidates—Biden and Gravel—don’t have dark hair).


34 posted on 09/22/2007 9:00:52 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: jude24
FR is NOT reflective of the Republican electorate. We represent a very narrow sub-section.

exactly jude - whats pans out might be something entirely different

fyi I resigned my pastorate and affiliation with the denomination this past week

35 posted on 09/22/2007 9:16:15 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (prov 30:33)
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To: JoanVarga; Liz; TommyDale; indylindy; wagglebee; dirtboy; Spiff; hiredhand; loboinok; Reagan Man; ..
I keep going back and forth about Rudy, but he may be the only candidate with enough of the NY Attitude to counter the Hillary.

Bakerbot and Fordbot mantra, March 1980 (see NRO for details):

"RONALD REAGAN CAN'T WIN!!!  A vote for Ronald Reagan is a vote for Jimmy Carter."

"Polls show Reagan would lose by 2-1 in going head-to-head against Carter. "

"Barry Goldwater is too right-wing to appeal to enough moderates to win. "
 
" ___________________* is the only candidate who can beat Carter."

* Insert preferred candidate -- Howard Baker or Gerald Ford

 

36 posted on 09/22/2007 9:18:29 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Kaslin

Novak on his knees. **vomit**


37 posted on 09/22/2007 9:19:12 AM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: AL Central -2)
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To: Revelation 911

L.Ron will never be the nominee, but to answer your hypothetical question: F**k no.


38 posted on 09/22/2007 9:22:07 AM PDT by Petronski (Cleveland Indians: AL Central -2)
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To: calcowgirl

Spot on Lady. Lets offer up a real conservative. A very clear cut, no shit adult, to counter balance the Menopausal Marxist Shrew.

Rooty is the very worst choice to do this. Think alternative to the nanny state, nincompoop, harridan Hillary and her whoremonger hubby!

Colorful, huh?


39 posted on 09/22/2007 9:37:28 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy

LOL! VERY Colorful!

I’m so sick of liberal polls and biased media forcing THEIR choices upon us!

In their world, Ronald Reagan would never have been president.


40 posted on 09/22/2007 10:06:55 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Darkwolf377

Give credit where credit is due. Rudy was out-front on this while our spineless RNC and Legislators sat back and tried to appear “reasonable”.


41 posted on 09/22/2007 10:09:05 AM PDT by go-dubya-04
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To: Kaslin
Thompson's personalized letter asserts that "as long as our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have hope and optimism, we should too" but does not take a position on President Bush's war policy. Rejecting Bush's stand on immigration, Thompson says: "We cannot effectively solve our problem with legal immigration until our borders are secured." The letter quotes Ronald Reagan but does not mention George W. Bush.

Good! Just shows he can push his own policies without trying to pander to the BDS crowd.

42 posted on 09/22/2007 10:33:07 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Petronski

LOL!


43 posted on 09/22/2007 10:54:12 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: upchuck

I’m sure that there’s a good reason that they haven’t closed the poll’s availability to lurkers. I wish they would, though. On the other hand, it’s good evidence of the tactics of idiots and pranksters.


44 posted on 09/22/2007 11:49:56 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Kill the Terrorists. Secure the Borders. Give Me Back My Freedom. FRed Thompson can do it.)
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To: Clara Lou
I was wondering about that and thinking if I was Jim Rob, what would I do.

I think I’d leave it there. Taking it down would just embolden the lurkers. And anybody that is interested enough in the poll to look at the details knows there’s no way in Hell that Paul has 16% of the votes.

It’s been interesting to watch the percentages change. Looks to me like FRed has suffered the most. At one time he had 50+ percent of the votes.

45 posted on 09/22/2007 11:57:15 AM PDT by upchuck (Psychiatrists have labeled George Bush's South-of-the-Border obsession as mexicosis. ~ firehat)
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To: calcowgirl
Did you know Goldwater nearly lost reelection for his final Senate term in 1980 because he was too socially liberal ? He was nearly beaten by a pro-life Democrat.
46 posted on 09/22/2007 1:12:59 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Kaslin
"Right now I have no plan to vote for Rudy, but if he is the nominee I will vote for him. I certainly will not sit home and let the left take the White House over "

Everyone I know, both in my family and my friends that are conservative, will never vote for the fake Republican Rudy!

One issue Rudy will destroy the Republican Party and conservative movement within the Republican Party for years to come if he gets the nomination.
47 posted on 09/22/2007 6:36:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Revelation 911

BTTT


48 posted on 09/22/2007 6:43:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: go-dubya-04; Darkwolf377; Senator Goldwater
I’m sorry, but because of his past liberal positions and decisions and his current pandering (i.e. 2nd Amendment, Abortion, etc) everything he does comes across as political pandering!
49 posted on 09/22/2007 6:44:01 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: jude24

It is much more representative than what you are saying.

At least 30 to 50% of the party is true-blue conservative.


50 posted on 09/22/2007 6:45:35 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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