5 GOP candidates commit to Baltimore debate (No Fred, Rudy McRomney, but there are Hunter and Paul)

Baltimore Sun ^ | 09/22/2007 | David Nitkin

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Just five Republican candidates - half the invited field - will take part in Thursday's presidential debate in Baltimore, event organizers said yesterday.

The four leading contenders, Rudolph W. Giuliani, John McCain, Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson, have each said they will not participate in the forum focusing on issues facing minority voters. Their absence has drawn the ire of Tavis Smiley, the talk-show host who is moderating and organizing the debate at Morgan State University; he said the candidates are making a mistake in not reaching out to black voters.

A list of confirmed participants released yesterday also omits Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado, a staunch opponent of current immigration policy. Confirmed are Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Alan L. Keyes of Maryland, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California and Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, organizers said.

Also yesterday, former Lt. Gov. Michael S. Steele, the chairman of GOPAC, a Republican political action committee, said in a statement that he was "hopeful" each missing candidate would "adjust his schedule" to participate.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

At least I know for a fact that some of those attending won't be pandering.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Hunter ping!

Set your calender for this Thursday, ladies and gentlemen.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Paul ping.

[lormand]

Let's hope and pray that Ron Paul loses his quest for American suicide, then in November 08' Ron Paul loses his congressional seat.

The people in his district deserve so much better than that nutball.

[counterpunch]

Good for the 1st and 2nd tier candidates to not participate in these special interest group pander fests.

[Calpernia]

B4DH!

[RasterMaster]

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[counterpunch]

You think any of Paul’s supporters will even watch this debate, considering that it turns out most of them are neo-nazis?

[RoadKingSE]

I suggest body armor for all. They don’t call it Bodymore, Murderlan’ for nuttin hon. Oh and thanks for halting that crime wave before leaving the Mayor’s office for the Govervenor’s Mansion O’Malley!

[pissant]

Thank goodness, no John Cox. Unfortunately, Alan ‘reparations’ Keyes will be blowing his hot air again.

[Calpernia]

Steele Calls Morgan State Debate A Chance To "Put Up Or Shut Up" For GOP Candidates

Excerpt:

Former Lt. Governor Michael Steele says Republican presidential candidates should participate in a scheduled presidential debate aimed at African American voters, that is scheduled for September 27 at Morgan State University.

Steele, who heads GOPAC, a political action committee that helps Republican candidates, told WBAL's "Kendel and Bob Show" Saturday that he's been contacted by debate moderator and PBS talk show host Tavis Smiley to help convince candidates to appear in the debate.

(snip)

"I think it's an important opportunity for Republican candidates to put up or shut up, when ti comes to minority communities in the country," Steele said.

(snip)

[fetal heart beats by 21st day]

Good for all the MEN from the Republican side who have the spine to participate.

This is no panderfest, and Tavis Smiley, to me, seems to be of good will.

He asked better questions of the dems than most of the trained MSM.

Go Duncan Hunter!

[traderrob6]

“This is no panderfest, and Tavis Smiley, to me, seems to be of good will.”

BWAAAAHAHAHAHA

[George W. Bush]

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[Scutter]

The people in his district deserve so much better than that nutball.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly makes you consider him a nutball? Is there anything other than his position on the Iraq war?

[RasterMaster]

As far as I’m concerned, the “top tier” RINOs can voluntarily stay out of the rest of the debates as well. Getting tired of hearing that whiney little LIEberaltarian Ron Paul too.

[Ultra Sonic 007]

Tell that to Duncan Hunter, who if you recall got applause from NALEO (the National Association of Latino Elected Officials) when he spoke of his ideas concerning border security and stopping illegal immigration. He got applause.

Duncan Hunter, who went to the Katrina HOPE Summit and told the people of New Orleans that more government entitlements were not the answer, but less government, and more individual responsibility. He got booed.

If he gets booed or applauded, at least we know that Hunter won’t be pandering.

[Calpernia]

GOP front-runners ‘ignoring’ blacks?

Excerpt:

Republican presidential candidates — the presumed front-runners at least — are making themselves scarce for a Sept. 27 debate, said to be “African-American oriented” and organized by talk show host Travis Smiley. It’s scheduled for Baltimore’s historically black Morgan State University and will be aired by PBS.

As of now, only U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and U.S. Reps. Duncan Hunter of California, Tom Tancredo of Colorado and Ron Paul of Texas will participate. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee are sending regrets — much to the ire of Smiley and his fans.

“No one should be elected president of this country in 2008 if they ignore people of color,” said Smiley. “”If they want to be president of all America they need to speak to all Americans.”

(snip)

[NordP]

Thanks for the ping.

It will be very nice to actually HEAR from Duncan Hunter since the others won't be taking up all the time.

[pissant]

I don’t think Hunter or Paul will have a single pandering word to say.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

Gee, Rudy and Mitt are now copying Fred by staying away from the beauty pageant debates.

“But Fred avoided NH, he’s avoiding the issues, wah!”
Blah, blah, blah, ect., barf.

[NascentDocent]

Nice libelous slander. If you box as well as you reason, I’d love to step into the ring.

[Pistolshot]

Duncan needs to stand out at this forum or pack it in. He's had a number of chances to rise above the crowd and performed dismally.

Where is that fervor from the GOE2 event? He had a great chance at the VV debate and missed it. These small participation events without the top tier to overshadow the lower tiers are the perfect place to get the message out.

Problem is with Keyes involved, no one will get a word in edgewise.

[RasterMaster]

Paul panders to the moonbat anti-war DUmocrats who are his base....the MoveOn, Code-Pinko, anti-American type of DUmocrat kooks.

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/09/13/audio-why-ron-paul-is-a-crank-episode-314/

He should join up with the DUmocrats since he’s adopted their talking points.

[George W. Bush]

counterpunch, #5: Good for the 1st and 2nd tier candidates to not participate in these special interest group pander fests.

Apparently, you're talking about black people and minorities in general?

counterpunch, #8: You think any of Paul’s supporters will even watch this debate, considering that it turns out most of them are neo-nazis?

Funny, you're the one obsessing over minorities while hurling charges of racism against Ron Paul supporters who are extremely inclusive and are (hopefully you won't be too offended) a multiracial group (blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc.).

It turns out that minorities respond to Ron Paul's message of liberty and small-government. Too bad the frontrunners are all advocates of big-government and an endless War On Terror and, no doubt, more of the highly successful War On Drugs.

It's little wonder we've lost most of the minority Republicans who once posted here at FR.

[pissant]

Yes, but he panders to them no matter what the audience. I’m sure he’ll give the black folks at this debate his standard Code Pink foreign policy as well.

[org.whodat]

Spend your evening with “Travis Smiley”. Not going to happen!

[counterpunch]

It’s been discovered that most of the Paul Qaeda internet spamming is being conducted from stormfrom.org, a neo-nazi site.

[counterpunch]

Sorry, that should read “stormfront.org”

[George W. Bush]

Tell that to Duncan Hunter, who if you recall got applause from NALEO...

Exactly. And Tom Tancredo who alone went to the NAACP event when invited. And got a standing ovation just for showing up.

No wonder the Dims have such an easy time snaring minority voters from us. We do have a better message but we have to show up and ask for their votes.

If you won't even be seen with them, you may as well forget their votes. That's no different than any other voting bloc.

[counterpunch]

Anything that is narrowly focused on something like “minority concerns” or “values voters” is a special interest pander fest. The Democrats do it, and now the Republicans are doing it too.

[Calpernia]

Don’t you mean stormfront.org?

[Calpernia]

Yes you did. Sorry, posted before I read down.

[counterpunch]

It would be nice if this forum got dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century with an “edit post” button.

[George W. Bush]

It’s been discovered that most of the Paul Qaeda internet spamming is being conducted from stormfrom.org, a neo-nazi site.

Oh? A website no one ever heard of before claims that of 400 page views of a stupid online poll that had like 11 people vote in it, that the majority of those page views originated by people clicking at st*rmfr*nt.com or from FreeRepublic.com.

They're a racist site. In national media (Bill O'Reilly), we've been called a "hate site".

I do know that Ron Paul supporters aren't the ones posting links to repulsive racist sites here at FR.

[Calpernia]

I’ve wished for edit many times too.

[Kimberly GG]

Have any of the no shows given an explanation as to why they will not be attending...some of them AGAIN, some of them NOT AT ALL?

[traviskicks]

LOL, most of us are neo-nazis? Whodathunkit? :)

[logician2u]

A Bozo filter would come in handy at times, too.

[fetal heart beats by 21st day]

"Anything that is narrowly focused on something like “minority concerns” or “values voters” is a special interest pander fest. The Democrats do it, and now the Republicans are doing it too." Does that include the NRA?

[sweetiepiezer]

IT will be great that Hunter will get some time to answer questions. These other debates focus to much on Mitt and Rudy, two frauds if you ask me.

Go HUNTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[davidosborne]

Actualy I think it’s more “honest” without an EDIT feature, that way a poster can’t edit history, and may have to “eat their words” one day.. that is so much more fun..

If you make an honest mistake/typo.. just correct it repost, and his “abuse” on the original post and kindly as the mod to delete the post containng the typo.. I have had to do that a few times where the typo changed the context significantly.. for example a poster in another thread this afternoon used the word IRAQ instead of IRAN, it was clearly a typo based on the context, but could be confusing if not read carefully..

FReegards,

David

[KDD]

You think any of Paul’s supporters will even watch this debate, considering that it turns out most of them are neo-nazis?

Only cowards make such a statement behind an anonymous keyboard. That is what you are. A sniveling coward with a 3rd grade mentality. Oh, and you are a liar to boot. What you are not...is a conservative.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Getting tired of hearing that whiney little LIEberaltarian Ron Paul too.

That's ok. Lots of us Paul supporters think that Duncan Hunter needs to stop dragging his knuckles in the dirt, and learn that the military and a big fence isn't the answer to all international problems.

The military has done well with everything that has been thrown at them since 9/11, but diplomacy and nation building are not exactly skills that the military has any use or need for.

And just what lies has Ron Paul told?

[TheBattman]

Alan Keyes reparations? Didn’t know about that...

[logician2u]

That Oregon poll “site” (actually someone’s Blogger blog) was apparently so overwhelmed by traffic coming from here they had to take down the page that Petronski quoted to post his guilt-by-association anti-Paul spam thread.

[sweetiepiezer]

How can I get a copy of your post?

[Calpernia]

I wouldn’t hold the title, “Queen of all Typos” if there was an edit feature. So I guess some good can come of it.

[Iwo Jima]

So, do you think that the people in Ron Paul's district are ignorant or stupid?

Your concern for their welfare will no doubt touch them greatly.

[TheBattman]

Actually - I lost a great deal of respect for FT when he skipped the Value Voters Debate. But after hearing the questions - I understood why FT and Rudy McRomney stayed away - they are totally scared of the truth on REAL issues. They knew they would be pinned down and they like to have wiggle room to pander and/or “adjust” their message for the audience. That debate was not a venue that would be easy at.

And they had only a little to gain, and a WHOLE LOT to lose. Sure wish they had been there.