Skip to comments.Parallel Universes Exist - Study
Posted on 09/24/2007 4:10:41 PM PDT by anymouse
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Can you expound on this, what the 12 dimensions are? Briefly, of course ... I'm genuinely interested.
I am looking for the next big real Theory to be the Theory of Gravity. I.e. a real explanation of as the Force we all know it needs to be. Look for it to have a teeny tiny mass component (of course) (sub-atomic) and a speed which EXCEEDS that of light by 2 to 3 times.
A "Grand Unified" theory which brings Gravitation and the Quantum world into consensus with each other? Of course, Quantum theory would exceed the speed of light by an instantaneous amount (if I understand it correctly), while Gravity would be slow but very powerful over long distances. "Distances" being a moot point regarding Quantum speeds ....
I am not a scientist nor physicist, but just a layman who finds this stuff fascinating ....
This understates parallel universes. To start with, Einstein pointed out that true parallel universes would have to be equivalent to this one. That is, not separated by time, but in coexistence, just with different energy, some of which transcends more than one, like say gravity, but most of which is limited to just their home universe.
But if “dark matter” is really parallel universes, it implies there are only a limited number of them, perhaps a dozen.
This is different from “possible” and “alternate” universes, *or parts thereof*, which are neither permanent or complete.
It is based on a membrane model of the universe, which can be imagined as if our universe was filled with bubbles, and within each are different energy and different rules. Every bit of “matter” is a form of energy made solid and equal to other solids by its surrounding membrane.
In “your” membrane, if you flip a coin, you get heads, and the heads outcome is the “official” outcome. However, the “possible” tails outcome is just as real, as a possibility. So the two outcomes remain real, until you put the coin back in your pocket, when they re-converge. Neither outcome had any real impact beyond that.
However, later in the day you make an “alternative” decision, in this case, you decide if you want to become a US Marine or a ballet dancer. An alternative possibility has outcomes that permanently diverge. Both are just as real, and stay that way. This is like the “endlessly diverging universes” idea, except the entire universe is not involved, just a piece of it.
Yet membranes can permit multiple realities in the same universe. After all, it’s just energy.
A phrase used by people who do not know the definition of “parallel” or the defintion of “universe”.
You know... I thought I was reading this. Then, like a dream I realized I wasn't. I only thought that I was reading it. Just like you think you are reading these words right now... But, you're not. It's your imagination.
Now, for something completely different.
Or, maybe we DO ;)
Just reinforces my mother's insistance that I wear clean underwear every day.........
If this is true, then why do I always have the unlucky circumstance of ending up in the screwed up universe?
If you think this one is bad you DO NOT want to see the other one! In fact your double in the other universe has been trying to hire me to whack you so he can assume your life here.
Unfortunately for him (or fortunately for you) the primary currency in his universe is Tofu.
Except it's appearing on Democratic Underground!
Meanwhile everyone on Free Republic is wearing leather vests without sleeves and drinking on the bridge and carrying knives and destroying some helpless planet.
Good to know that as a person with terminal fatigue and insomnia in THIS universe, in a parallel universe my double falls asleep easily each night and wakes up refreshed every morning. Good for her! < :P
Oh, I get it.
It’s not so much that more than one universe exists, but rather that each of us experiences (so to speak) our own little trip through the one verse.
It’s still really one universe with zillions and zillions of of other things going on in it that we don’t know about.
Kinda like a multiplex theatre.
parallel universe - isn’t it lovely?
You mean somewhere out there, Gore became president after all?
This is a pretty thin gruel to base such a broad claim on.
To paraphase Yoda: “Theoretical possibilities do not a reality (or multiple realities) prove.”
Eventally, the cat in the closed box will prove himself to be dead whether or not you take a measurement.
Generally, the least complicated explanation is most likely the correct one. An infinite number of multiple parallel universes is not a simple explanation.
But what do I know? I’m a history major...in this universe, that is... perhaps I’m channeling...
It’s pretty big Hubris to think that atoms (or smaller particles) aren’t really solid (in reality) untill they have observed them! And how would they ever know to test this- as soon as the particles were “observed” according to the mathmaticians they would stop being in flux as soon as they “observed” it!
I hope they are correct though.
Not to worry ... just making a joke, thats all :) .. I too myself do many errors of grammer and speeling also once in a while and sometimese even redundant duplications of phrases and words, as well as repeating myslelf often within the same post all the time .... /grin :)
I I thought sew. :)
“As I said O’Neill, ours is the only reality of consequence.” ~ Teal’c, SG-1
It's impossible to know whether other fully independent universes exist. If their existence is caused by an event in our universe, then this new "universe" would be connected to our "universe" by this event. In truth, both "universes" would belong to the same universe.
Except there, all of our computers spontaneously explode when we click the link and we all die. Glad I’m here.
But I didn't read this thread in that parallel universe.
And in another parallel universe, I didn't type this.
And in another parallel universe, I didn't keep going.
And in yet another parallel universe.....
And in another universe it wont.
I was thinking the same thing. (in this universe, at least.) Did Hugh Everett, here in this universe, come to the right answer by good scientific and logical reasoning and in another universe, where he came to the conclusion that it was false, did he do that by valid, logical reasoning, too? How in the world, excuse me, is there any way to tell which answer is better than any other when Everett himself, according to his own theory, would be bound to come up with both answers an infinite number of times?
The 'multiverse' notion is an attempt to explain away the vastly improbable fine-tuning of the universe, but you'd think that it might occur to its proponents at some point that any argument that necessarily entails disregard for the laws of logic or reasoning is patently foolish.
I think there’s some cosmic confusion & we’re being punished for things the “other us” did.
“The ‘multiverse’ notion is an attempt to explain away the vastly improbable fine-tuning of the universe,”
Exactly! No other way to account for the numbers.
And it’s explicitly metaphysical - the “no-fly” area of science (unless it suits their purposes).
These guys are a little late. Another Oxford mathematician, Charles Dodgson, wrote about parallel universes back in 1872. His descripton of one was made famous in the work entitled: “Through the Looking Glass.”
So? In some other “universe” Hillary is nice?
So? In some other “universe” Hillary is nice?
Another theory based on a flawed assumption.
Guess it beats working with that tricky dark matter stuff.
I wonder if Al Bore is President somewhere?
I bet this scientist saw that Futurama episode before coming up with this theory.
Ol Obi-Wan is making more sense all the time—” You will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.”
I find the concept of parallel universes very logical. It would explain many para-normal things.
But in another universe you don't.
If the theory is correct he certainly did, in some universe:)
LOL- and in that parallel universe my failure to imagine such things are logical will be....logical, by the rules of parallel universes!
So how much does believing- or not- really matter in such things?
Somewhere there are alien intelligences who are absolutely sure that we do not exist- yet, here we are!
And in one universe he gets lucky with the nurse and in another, the hospital food is great, and...
What a load of horsecrap. I hope they don't spend government money to come up with crackpot theories like this.
Where's the universe where I'm taggin' Nicole Kidman, Sandra Bullock and that blonde 19 year old on Dancing With The Stars at the same time? That's the universe I want. But noooooooooo, my parallel self is doing that. He always gets the fun sh!t.
Too bad some scientists have lost contact with reality and are now living inside of mathematical equations.
Sorry, but your doctorate degrees did not prevent you from seeing the obvious: there is ONE universe, and you are not in it.
PHD’s don’t cure stupidity.
We have to introduce these english wizards to P.T.Barnum : “My boy, there’s a SUCKER born every minute”. These types of hucksters are quickly dealt with at the high stakes poker tables in Vegas. They are usually called FOUR FLUSHERS, always trying some new kind of con. I believe they even have classes for dealers, operators on all the different scams that have been tried before, the criminal mind becomes very ingenious when a bundle of CASH is the objective. This PARALLEL UNIVERSES nonsense is but another scam.
This scam was started by Einstein, Rosen, Podalski(p?)many moons ago, known as the EPR paradox. Same old nonsense, deliberately confusing probabilities with actualities. It’s that old story of the Emperor’s New Clothes : a whole bunch of suckers and country bumpkins believe it : the Emperor’s cloths are so FINE as to be invisible...until someone in the crowd sees some IDIOT riding his horse in a parade, BUCK NAKED...and starts LAUGHING...
Clothed in your PARALLEL UNIVERSE apparel, struting down the street, do you want to be laughed at too?
Not really...the Many Worlds alternative to Copenhagen doesnt allow for universes where EVERYTHING happens...only universes where everything POSSIBLE happens; i.e. there are no universes where someone is standing one mile north of the North Pole or where cubes have round corners or other LOGICAL impossibilities.
I submit for your consideration that Helen Thomas being considered a hottie while linguistically expressible is a logical impossibility in any possible universe...
...or ought to be, and is in any I’d want to visit ;-).
Good point which even the writer should have thought of since he described a branching structure; parallel lines dont branch [relative to one another anyway] and if they do branch they arent parallel...why I would prefer the terms alternate or divergent universes.
It could “explain” many ‘paranormal’ things...but that isn’t the same as proving them...still it makes for interesting questions eh?...
So how do we explain this feckless UnAmerican congress and its make believe lap dog GOP ers? You mean we got stuck with the wrong ones, and the right ones are in a parallel universe? People! we are in the bizzaro world, sign me up for the next ticket out!
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