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US set to violate its standards on CO2 emissions
NewScientist ^ | 9/24/07 | Catherine Brahic

Posted on 09/25/2007 1:36:29 PM PDT by ricks_place

The US may violate its own standards on water quality by refusing to limit emissions of carbon dioxide, suggests a new study modelling ocean acidification.

"About one-third of the CO2 from fossil-fuel burning is absorbed by the world’s oceans," explains Ken Caldeira at Stanford University in California, US, who led the study.

The CO2 lowers the pH of the ocean’s surface, a phenomenon known as ocean acidification. This is predicted to have dramatic consequences on marine life by dissolving the shells of tiny organisms and corals.

If governments do nothing to limit greenhouse-gas emissions, CO2 levels in the oceans will rise to a point where, by 2050, ocean acidification will reach a level considered to be industrial waste by the US’s own standards, found the study to be published on 25 September.

Industrial waste ""We need to start thinking about carbon dioxide as an ocean pollutant," urges Caldeira. "When we release carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, we are dumping industrial waste in the ocean.".

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) water quality criteria, states that the pH of ocean waters beyond 200 metres deep should not be changed more than 0.2 units outside natural levels. Estimates put natural levels at a range from 8 to 8.25 pH. Anything beyond this is considered industrial waste. However, these standards are not enshrined in US law.

Caldeira’s team calculated how CO2 emissions from fossil-fuel burning impact on ocean acidification.

‘Dangerous interference’ "If atmospheric CO2 goes above 500 parts per million, the surface of the entire ocean will be out of compliance with EPA pH guidelines," says Caldeira. Currently, concentrations are at 380 ppm. However, computer models suggest that if governments do nothing to limit greenhouse-gas emissions, concentrations could climb to at least 760 ppm by 2100 and could reach 500ppm by 2050.

(Excerpt) Read more at environment.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; coastalenvironment; environment; globalwarming
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Plug every Hydrothermal Vents!

They violate the law!
1 posted on 09/25/2007 1:36:35 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

I’m still reeling over the fact that every time I exhale, I’m polluting.


2 posted on 09/25/2007 1:37:52 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: ricks_place
Does that mean we have to quit breathing?


3 posted on 09/25/2007 1:38:59 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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They violate the law!

So do volcanoes. Just a minute, I think that thing might just be an underground volcano. We must immediate cap it. Perhaps the pent up energy will cause an explosion on the other side of the world (maybe in Iran) if we work it just right.

Kill two birds with one stone. Make the global warmest feel warm and fuzzy and destroy the great satin.

4 posted on 09/25/2007 1:41:31 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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Plug every Hydrothermal Vents!

Kill the hydrothermals, down with underwater volcanoes!!!!

5 posted on 09/25/2007 1:42:31 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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I’m still reeling over the fact that every time I exhale, I’m polluting.

There are things that you can do that pollute even worse.

6 posted on 09/25/2007 1:42:43 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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7 posted on 09/25/2007 1:43:08 PM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: darkwing104

Well whoop tee doo. It must not be a violation of the law when an illegal alien crosses our border? Wait....that’s why they call them ILLEGAL aliens. They break the law and nothing happens but if we exceed some CO2 limit above that of a bee fart, then we are the worse country in the world. The humanity.


8 posted on 09/25/2007 1:43:40 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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by dissolving the shells of tiny organisms and corals.

Yjat sounds like BS to me. Those organisms rely on CO2 (and calcium) in the water to form the calcium carbonate which their shells are made of.

9 posted on 09/25/2007 1:44:21 PM PDT by expatpat
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“There are things that you can do that pollute even worse.”

I think you missed my point. I don’t consider breathing to be polluting, even if the SCOTUS thinks it does in terms of EPA policy.


10 posted on 09/25/2007 1:47:04 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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"If atmospheric CO2 goes above 500 parts per million, the surface of the entire ocean will be out of compliance with EPA pH guidelines,"

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Poseidon says, "The EPA bureaucraps made their ruling, now let 'em enforce it!"

11 posted on 09/25/2007 1:50:21 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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US set to violate its standards on CO2 emissions

Well, we're doing our part to get us there. If the left would only chip in... As if they weren't.

12 posted on 09/25/2007 1:52:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has pay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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Maybe he was refering to what comes out of the other end... Ok, maybe it is just me.....
13 posted on 09/25/2007 1:55:50 PM PDT by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Slapshot68

I prefer to think of it as providing a necessary ingredient for plant life.


14 posted on 09/25/2007 1:57:16 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: w1andsodidwe

Make the global warmest feel warm and fuzzy and destroy the great satin.

Is he related to the Great Santini?


15 posted on 09/25/2007 1:59:13 PM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

Yes, I did screw up the spelling, but the spell checker didn’t notice it.


16 posted on 09/25/2007 2:01:30 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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Oh, how I love it when Leftists bitchslap each other...

CANADA SUED FOR BREACHING KYOTO

"Friends of the Earth Canada has launched a landmark lawsuit against the Government of Canada for abandoning its international commitments under the Kyoto Protocol.

Canada is second only to Austria, worldwide, in the staggering size of its failure to meet its Kyoto target, with its greenhouse gas emissions more than 34% above its 6% reduction target."


17 posted on 09/25/2007 2:03:18 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: ricks_place
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:

Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:


This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

18 posted on 09/25/2007 2:05:37 PM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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“Does that mean we have to quit breathing?”

Only if you’re a conservative. Leftists can breathe all they want under the regulations they wrote.


19 posted on 09/25/2007 2:05:53 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Slapshot68

OK all you smart people...who owns the air that we breathe here in the good ol’ USA?


20 posted on 09/25/2007 2:07:16 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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